Posted on 07/26/2004 4:51:56 PM PDT by Rakkasan1
Swathed in a white robe with a rope cinched about his waist, Jay Wiesner stood in silence Sunday afternoon as parishioners clustered around, laying their hands on his shoulders while scores more stretched out their hands in his direction.
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Jay Wiesner? What's a nice Jewish boy doing becoming a gay Lutheran pastor?
I bet Luther would not be amused.
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God is watching.....
I don't blame you for leaving ELCA. I would gently recommend the WELS (Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod) for a truly Lutheran faith.
I bet his parents were shocked whey they found out their son was goy.
Extremely Liberal Church of America
God is not amused by these so called churches picking and choosing which portions of His Word they will teach and obey. There are qualifications for being a pastor or teacher. He does not meet them and they have no right to ordain him.
he'd probably nail this priest to the door.
....The Missouri Synod would never allow this...
How right you are! I'm so glad my daughter attends one of the Concordia Universities, a very strict Missouri Synod school.
Well, TonyRo, it's time for the Lutheran Ping list!
For all of you posting about the "liberal ELCA"--here's a brief version of the REAL story: the ELCA is really a largely conservative church that has been hijacked by liberal, revisionist mis-leaders, like several other "mainline" churches. (There are several different varieties of Lutheran conservatives, which complicates the issue.)
In summer 2005, the ELCA Churchwide Assembly is mandated to vote on whether to officially ordain non-celebate gays and to "bless" gay "unions". This vote is very likley to spit the ELCA into several pieces, and to send many individual members and families scurrying out of it, especially in liberal synods where they have few or no Lutheran alternatives.
Nearly all Western (i.e., non-Eastern Orthodox) mainline churches are in trouble in North America and in Europe. Look at the Roman Catholics (sex scandal, lawsuits, churches closing, etc.) and the Episcopal church (gay bishop, churches leaving and forming a conservative "province") for the biggest examples. Churches in trouble include BOTH the ELCA and the Missouri Synod, for different reasons.
It's time to pray, to ask the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and to get togehter with other conservative Christians. Joining the FR Lutheran ping list may be part of doing that, especially for FR Lutherans who have not already done so.
OK you've caught my attention....what is troubling the Missouri Synod?
I'd be careful with the "would never" bit. I'll bet whoever first dedicated money for the pews in this ELCA church years and years ago (if it's more than a couple generations old) would have been horrified by this action, too.
Put me on that Lutheran ping list, PLEASE!!
Yes, I second the question: What is troubling the Missouri Synod?
The Missouri Synod Lutheran church in Broken Arrow is a wonderful church...the only other church I allow my jedis to go to VBS (we're Southern Baptist). The pastor's wife is one of my very dearest friends!
My in-laws go to an ELCA up north, and just had a relative and her girlfriend post their "family" picture together in the church directory!
They are just like night and day, these two churches!
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