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Pregnant woman wants re-entry to U.S., lawyers say fetus is citizen
Associated Press ^ | Jul. 26, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 07/26/2004 6:15:18 PM PDT by NortNork

LOS ANGELES - Lawyers for a deported Mexican woman who is eight months pregnant are seeking her return to the United States to protect the unborn baby's health. They also say under federal law the fetus is a viable human being and thus may be eligible for citizenship rights.

That argument sounds like a long shot to some on both sides of the immigration debate. But in May, a U.S. District Court judge in Kansas City, Mo., approved a stay of deportation for a pregnant Mexican woman after raising, among other concerns, the question of whether her fetus could be considered a U.S. citizen. The judge is reviewing the issue.

That Missouri decision cannot set legal precedent, but immigration attorneys say it may offer them a new angle in deportation cases.

Last week immigration officials denied a request to grant 30-year-old Maria Christina Rubio, mother of two young U.S.-born daughters, a temporary humanitarian visa to return to the United States because of complications in her pregnancy. Rubio's attorney did not immediately return calls for comment. She was deported July 16.

Her husband's attorney, Luis Carrillo, said he is considering whether to file a lawsuit against Immigration and Customs Enforcement for unlawful deportation.

Carrillo said Rubio, who was hospitalized with complications in her fifth month and has suffered severe stomach pains throughout her pregnancy, needs to be back in the United States because the baby's health is at risk.

He also cited the Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004, in which unborn children are granted equal protection under criminal law. Carrillo said that since the fetus is 8 months and would be viable outside the womb, it should be treated as a child born in the United States.

"The child was conceived in the United States and would have been born in the United States except that the mother was deported. Through no part of his own, the unborn baby is in Mexico," Carrillo said.

Virginia Kice, a spokeswoman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said the U.S. Constitution's definition of citizen is very clear.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States" are considered citizens under the 14th Amendment.

"It doesn't say all persons who were conceived in the United States," Kice said.

In the Missouri case, the court questioned whether the unborn child would be a U.S. citizen because its father was.

Lawyers for the U.S. Attorney's office in Missouri argued that while fetuses are protected under criminal law, the law does not restrict the government's immigration powers. Known as "Laci and Conner's Law," - the legislation was enacted after the bodies of Laci Peterson and her unborn son washed up along the San Francisco Bay in 2003. Peterson's husband, Scott, is charged with their murder.

Rubio was deported after she went to what her husband says was to be a status conference on her residency request. Immigration officials say the pregnant Rubio was immediately deported after it was discovered her residency request had been denied two years before and that she had previously entered the country illegally and been deported.

Kice said Rubio's lawyer at the time did not attend the hearing but was reached by telephone and did not raise any concerns about her health. She also said Rubio received an exam from public health services to ensure she was fit to travel.

Alan Diamante, an advising attorney in the case, said he believes it is important to bring the fetus citizenship argument to court, although he acknowledged it may be difficult argument to win.

"You can say this argument is a stretch, but these are the types of arguments that attorneys have to make to get into court," he said. "Laws are always changing and becoming harsher, and immigrant lawyers have to be creative to be heard."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; fetalrights; fetusimmigration; illegalimmigration; ins; uscitizenship
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To: NortNork

Anchor baby before the water even breaks.


21 posted on 07/26/2004 6:45:23 PM PDT by Tamzee (Tell me honestly, Honey... do these classified documents make me look fat?)
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To: NortNork

I thought the rule for citizenship that applies is "BORN" on US soil. Not conceived or "carried" by the pregnant mother.


22 posted on 07/26/2004 6:46:35 PM PDT by TheBattman (The failure to defend the "traditional" family unit will ultimately be the beginning of the end.)
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To: Rebelbase
Dems will then claim a pregnant woman's vote counts twice.

Only if the fetus is at least 18 years old!

23 posted on 07/26/2004 7:03:27 PM PDT by tarator
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To: CurlyBill
Why in God's name do we have this insane policy?

Because your system was the standard in europe in 1776. It had MANY problems (that you can imagine if you take a minute). The founders had specific thoughts regarding citizenship.

24 posted on 07/26/2004 7:07:29 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Tamsey

I can't believe it. You took the words right out of my mouth.


25 posted on 07/26/2004 7:27:06 PM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: firebrand; Coleus

ping


26 posted on 07/26/2004 7:33:51 PM PDT by Cacique
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To: truthkeeper

Sorry 'bout that.... I'm a wordokleptomaniac ;-)


27 posted on 07/26/2004 7:44:33 PM PDT by Tamzee (Tell me honestly, Honey... do these classified documents make me look fat?)
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To: smonk

You are quite right....


28 posted on 07/26/2004 7:44:41 PM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: TheBattman

And that 'rule' isn't even a law. Allowing anchor baby citizenship for non-residents doesn't really have any legal standing.

The rule should be that if you were here in the country illegally, your child doesn't become a legal citizen - because you're breaking the law being here.


29 posted on 07/26/2004 7:55:22 PM PDT by flashbunny (Help prevent stupidity. Please remember to spay and neuter your celebrities. Thank you.)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

Agreed - if you are here unlawfully, then a child born here should not be a citizen (literally, fruit of the poisoned tree); anything else is an insult to citizens and the law-abiding...


30 posted on 07/26/2004 8:02:46 PM PDT by bt_dooftlook ((Kerry/Edwards - Stay the Coarse))
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To: NortNork

I have a headache.


31 posted on 07/26/2004 8:13:22 PM PDT by RIGHT IN LAS VEGAS
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To: Rebelbase

Could be twins better let her vote three times.


32 posted on 07/26/2004 8:26:23 PM PDT by TheFrog
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To: SandRat

This is ridiculous. If this crap floats they'll have to round up all the people who happened to be concieved while their parents were vacationing in Mexico and send them back.


33 posted on 07/26/2004 10:01:59 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Just writing it all down before they come for me.)
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To: John Valentine
We can't have our cake and eat it too...

More like, "We can't have a fetus becoming a citizen at conception, then say it's OK to kill them before they are born."

34 posted on 07/26/2004 10:07:20 PM PDT by spodefly (This post meets the minimum daily requirements for cynicism and irony.)
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To: NortNork

If an American family is in a foreign country and has a child, they have to go to the American embassy right away and register the birth for the child to be able to be considered a natural-born American citizen.


35 posted on 07/26/2004 10:08:29 PM PDT by Styria
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To: farmfriend
The fetus is an American eh?

Well Tereezuh Heinz supports abortion. Does that mean the fetus is a dead American?

36 posted on 07/27/2004 7:14:15 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: NortNork; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...

The fetus is a person.


38 posted on 07/27/2004 6:34:26 PM PDT by Coleus (Brooke Shields killed her children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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To: SandRat; Coleus

Would this be retro to all illegals that conceived here?

It sounds like the left is swapping the Pro Life card to take an immigration card.

This will be interesting to watch political play wise.


39 posted on 07/27/2004 6:43:28 PM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: SandRat

bump! You stated what I just tried to much better :)


40 posted on 07/27/2004 6:45:35 PM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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