Implantable chips get under skin of security experts

EE Times ^ | July 26, 2004 (9:00 AM EDT) | Charles Murray

[Dysart]

This has to be a schizophrenic's worst nightmare.

[ItsOurTimeNow]

Obligatory "Mark of the Beast" post!

[combat_boots]

The mark of the Beast.

[Centurion2000]

In a decade or two, there will be a commonly available system with the ability to know who people are, where they are and what they've done," said John L. Peterson, a futurist and security expert with the Arlington Institute (Washington), and a former member of the National Security Council staff. "It's inevitable that something like this will happen. With terrorism, the external pressures are too great for it not to happen."

Civil War with Christians on one side to follow soon thereafter.

HELL NO will I get chipped. I'll wear a watch with one in it but not in the skin.

[Doctor Stochastic]

This has to be a schizophrenic's worst nightmare.

Yes it does.

No, you're wrong. It's a paranoid's worst nightmare.

[Sockdologer]

But who is the beast?

[freeeee]

Terror-related issues will likely push the technology to the forefront more quickly than would otherwise happen, Peterson added. "If a nuclear weapon goes off in some major city, there will be extraordinary pressure to figure out ways to keep it from happening again."

I really don't care if half the world is destroyed by terrorists - the fool who tries to put a chip in me is going to meet his maker.

[Tacis]

I don't understand how implanting these chips is going to increase the income from the Mexican goberment's sale of drugs or helping kerrorists get into the US. Is the point that they can identify US agents because they won't have a chip?

[appalachian_dweller]

>> The device, which measures 1.25 x 0.5 inch, could be surgically inserted beneath a user's collarbone. <<

IIRC, the mark of the beast is to be on the forehead or right arm/hand. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyhow, this don't miss by much. The mark was the first thing that went though my mind.

[FourtySeven]

This is one of those rare cases where I actually agree with the "tinfoilers". No way is that going in my body, especially if it's converted to be used to "buy and sell" things.

There are simply some things that must be adhered to, if one is to have a valid "faith" in God. Belief in the Bible is one. And you can't get closer to the description in Revelation than this. (Rev 13:17)

(assuming of course it's made mandatory)

[Junior]

The "Mark of the Beast¹" whackos aside, I can see a definite use for this thing for paroled criminals, especially for folks like sex offenders.

¹There are some people who believe that everything is an indication of the end times. These people are generally unhappy with life and can't wait for it to be over. Consider it to be a type of "suicide by God" syndrome.

[MD_Willington_1976]

"In Mexico, we have more than 150,000 missing kids," said Aceves of Solusat.

Have they looked for them in So Cal, Texas, or Arizona?

[Dysart]

Hey... you don't have to persecute me like that! :)

[Sir Gawain]

Even though I will never get chipped, the Mark of the Beast is most likely going to be the Muslim dinar (money).

[freeeee]

I can see a definite use for this thing for paroled criminals

"The technology will insidiously insert itself into the system, first in smaller ways, then in larger ways, until people get used to it," said Peterson of the Arlington Institute. "Then it will become a common and easy way to establish identity."

It'll go something like this (in chronological order):

1. Pets (check)
2. Stupid people who want them voluntarily (check)

Now onto the important part, involuntary humans...

3. Soldiers (Your @__ belongs to the Corps!, and the Corps wants a chip in its property!)
4. Sex Offenders. (It's very important to start with them, because those opposed can be portreyed as sympathetic to perverts: "Besides, soldiers have them! Do you think molesters are above soldiers!?")
3. People on parole/probation (no chip? serve your time!)
4. All prisoners
6. Anyone arrested

Next is the hard part, people who haven't been accused of breaking the law:

7. Anyone who works with children
8. Anyone who wants a professional license
9. Anyone who wants a drivers license
10. Anyone who wants a job

This is all as predictible as tomorrow mornings sunrise.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Should our people in Iraq have these implanted incase they are kidnapped?
What about implanting one in one of Osama's men we have captive? Then conveniently let him escape!

The possibilities are endless, and scarry!

[theDentist]

Tests showed a large number of the chips passing over the Mexican/American border during the evenings.

[fat city]

Note to self: Invent chip-seeking bullet.

[Junior]

Methinks you're getting panicky without reason. We already have ankle bracelets for in-house arrestees. Gee, I don't see the government mandating children (or anyone else, for that matter) should wear them.

Civil Libertarians would have fits if non-law breakers were required to get chipped. Hell, they'll probably have fits about mandating them for parolees.

There are a lot more despotic places in this world than the U.S., and I don't see their leaderships sniffing around these chip companies.