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To: L.N. Smithee

...the Democrats controlled both houses of the Congress ... Republicans voted for civil rights by a margin of 79 percent to 21 percent, 136-35. The Democrats' margin was 153-91 or 63 percent to 37 percent.

Liars Figure and Figures Lie.

Republicans = 171
Democrats = 244

There were more democrats present and there were more democrats that voted YES.

Sharpton did NOT lie ---- in this case Sharpton has the higher ground.

I am getting tired enough of the democrat lies to just have republican lies piled on top.

What ever happened to the TRUTH?


7 posted on 07/28/2004 7:49:25 PM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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To: steplock
What ever happened to the TRUTH?

There is no room for TRUTH in politics.

9 posted on 07/28/2004 7:54:08 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (LWS - Legislating While Stupid. Someone should make this illegal.)
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To: steplock
Sharpton did NOT lie ---- in this case Sharpton has the higher ground. I am getting tired enough of the democrat lies to just have republican lies piled on top. What ever happened to the TRUTH?

Cool your jets, pal. I didn't say that Sharpton "lied."

He made this statement in the midst of wailing his reasons why the GOP didn't deserve black votes. When he said that it was "UNDER DEMOCRATS" that the Civil Rights Act was passed, the implication was that Republicans wouldn't have passed it. In fact, a Republican conceived it, and a greater percentage of Republicans voted for it than Democrats.

This is not technically a "lie," so I did not characterize it as such. What I said was that Sharpton did not "tell the whole truth."

12 posted on 07/28/2004 8:03:17 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: steplock

Percentages matter more than absolute numbers. Of course the dems had more total "yes" votes because they had more people in power. A greater percentage of Republicans supported the bill. The RNC has failed in not educating more people about this and how the Civil Rights Bill would not have passed were it not for Republicans.


17 posted on 07/28/2004 8:19:00 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: steplock
Then how 'bout saying "nearly three times as many Dems (91) voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as Republicans (35)".
20 posted on 07/28/2004 8:26:39 PM PDT by SWake ("Estrada was savaged by liars and abandoned by cowards." Mark Davis, WBAP, 09/09/2003)
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To: steplock
Although the Democrats controlled both houses of the Congress at the time, a much-higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats supported the civil-rights bill.

That is truth.

22 posted on 07/28/2004 8:31:00 PM PDT by knuthom
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To: steplock

The truth is that the D's should have been able to carry it by themselves.

They couldn't.

They needed R's to come up big to pass it, and they did.

It was R's that got the act passed. The Civil Rights Act would have died if what the D's say about the R's and how we are all bigots were actually true.

That's the truth.


25 posted on 07/28/2004 9:51:18 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (War is the remedy our enemies have chosen. And I say let us give them all they want)
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To: steplock

According to the figures that you posted, it would appear also that nearly three times as many Democrats as Republicans voted NO to civil rights as well. You're right in some respects, but for Sharpton to insinuate as he did that Republicans were against civil rights is disingenuous at best and a boldfaced lie at worst. Your post didn't add anything, but it just pointed out a different inference from the statistic.
Nowhere in your post was an example of a specific Republican lie on the subject, so I would calm down about it.


26 posted on 07/28/2004 9:56:13 PM PDT by AdequateMan
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