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Two groups of Middle Eastern men allegedly caught crossing U.S.-Mexico border into Arizona
Tombstone Tumbleweed ^ | 7/29/2004 | Tombstone Tumbleweed

Posted on 07/29/2004 7:00:04 AM PDT by abork





TWO GROUPS OF MIDDLE-EASTERN INVADERS CAUGHT IN COCHISE COUNTY IN PAST SIX WEEKS

Information officer Andy Adame, from the Border Patrol Tucson sector says, “I guarantee it’s not true.”

However, seasoned Border Patrol field agents have shared some disturbing information with the Tumbleweed as well as other civilian sources with the hope the information will make it to the general public.
The Tumbleweed has verified information that a flood of middle-eastern males have been caught entering the country illegally east of Douglas, Arizona. The increased patrols in the Huachuca Mountains area of Cochise County, seems to have diverted the flow of OTM’s, “other than Mexicans” east to the Chiricahua Mountains.
Adame, who says many of the agents in the area are “green”, questions why they would have shared the information with the Tumbleweed or any other source. “Our policy is to turn any OTM’s over to the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security,” Adame said in a phone call made to the Tumbleweed Wednesday morning.
For reasons of National security, Adame said his agency cannot talk about the origin of nationaity, however Adame says that since October 1, 2003, the beginning of the fiscal year for Border Patrol, agents in the Tucson sector have apprehended 5,510 illegals from countries other than Mexico or other central or South American countries. Adame described them as “people from all over the world”.
In the last month, the Tumbleweed has confirmed at least two documented accounts of Border Patrol agents encountering large groups of non-Spanish speaking males in the Chiricahua foothills and on trails along the high mountain areas.
On or about the early morning hours of June 13, 2004 Border patrol agents from the Willcox station encountered a large group of suspected illegal border crossers, estimated to be around 158, just east of the Sanders Ranch near the foothills of the Chiricauha Mountains. 71 suspected illegal aliens were apprehended; among them were 53 males of middle-eastern descent.
According to a Border Patrol field agent, the men were suspected to be Iranian or possibly Syrian nationals. “One thing’s for sure: these guys didn’t speak Spanish and after we questioned them harder we discovered they spoke poor English with a middle-eastern accent; then we caught them speaking to each other in Arabic…this is ridiculous that we don't take this more seriously, and we’re told not to say a thing to the media, but I have to,” said the agent, who spoke to the Tumbleweed with the promise of anonymity.
Adame confirms the groups of illegals were apprehended on those dates in the same area but stated, “There were no middle easterners in the group. Every single one of them was Mexican.”
The field agent stated the men were wearing the traditional uniform of migrants - baseball caps, tennis shoes, some had work boots, denim jeans and many had t-shirts with patriotic American flags and slogans. The agent added the following description “A curious thing I noticed was that they all had brand new clothing and they looked as if they had just been to the barber shop--you know--new haircuts. They were clean cut and they all had almost the exact same cut of mustaches.”
The information was corroborated by a local rancher in the area who reports that sightings of groups similar to these are on the rise. The rancher reports that groups of heavily armed paramilitary drug smugglers have also been seen in the same area.
“We’ve had groups in the hundreds coming through again. They were gone for awhile but now they're back. And of course we have the drug mules again and many are carrying automatic weapons. Many other ranchers in the area have been frustrated with the lack of response from Border Patrol. After calling over and over again to the Willcox headquarters, we might get a response a few hours later. We call them in to the Border Patrol, we only have the Willcox station, and they’re so darned far away. By the time they send in the helicopters these groups are long gone. I don’t know how many they catch but they’re coming through here heavy right now.”
On or about the evening of June 21, 2004, agents from the Willcox Border Patrol station apprehended 24 members of a larger group of Arabic speaking males located just east of the Pierce/Sunsites area of Cochise County. At least half of the males escaped capture and disappeared into the United States.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arizona; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; alqaedamexico; bordersecurity; caught; crossing; mexico; middleeasternmen; usmexicoborder

1 posted on 07/29/2004 7:00:08 AM PDT by abork
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To: abork; trussell; tiamat

Welcome to Free Republic


2 posted on 07/29/2004 7:03:42 AM PDT by EggsAckley (.....John Edwards: The political equivalent of breast implants.....)
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To: abork
Our border situation is intolerable, and all credit at this point does go to GW Bush, period.

Just the increase in crime by illegals, driving accidents without insurance or license,

and free education and medical coverage is killing cities in Texas.

It has to stop now.

3 posted on 07/29/2004 7:06:01 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: abork; Admin Moderator

already posted...


4 posted on 07/29/2004 7:06:44 AM PDT by pageonetoo (Rush didn't know! Now, we all know! He probably broke the law! But, rushbots don't care! He's Rush!)
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To: abork; Admin Moderator

already posted...

oh, yeah, welcome to FreeRepublic


5 posted on 07/29/2004 7:07:39 AM PDT by pageonetoo (Rush didn't know! Now, we all know! He probably broke the law! But, rushbots don't care! He's Rush!)
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To: abork
News from the completely unreported (by ALL media, including Fox) front lines of World War Three.

There is an enemy invasion going on along our Southern Border. Only a handful of outnumbered border guards and local ranchers are manning the defenses.

Much as I truly despise the rat party, note that Republicans have also abandoned our Southern Border defenses.

6 posted on 07/29/2004 7:08:01 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: DainBramage

Agreed. He has had three years and done virtually nothing to stop it.


7 posted on 07/29/2004 7:08:56 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: abork

Information officer Andy Adame, from the Border Patrol Tucson sector says, “I guarantee it’s not true.”

Is it true or not?


8 posted on 07/29/2004 7:11:25 AM PDT by marty60
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To: FormerACLUmember

Interesting, Bush is doing nothing but they keep getting caught. HUMMMMMM


9 posted on 07/29/2004 7:13:04 AM PDT by marty60
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To: Happy2BMe; Joe Hadenuf; JackelopeBreeder; Spiff; hershey; JustPiper

Here we go again.


10 posted on 07/29/2004 7:17:10 AM PDT by kevao
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To: marty60

"Adame says that since October 1, 2003, the beginning of the fiscal year for Border Patrol, agents in the Tucson sector have apprehended 5,510 illegals from countries other than Mexico or other central or South American countries."

More than that pour over the border every week. If you think that is doing something then you have very low expectations.


11 posted on 07/29/2004 7:19:51 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: abork; WestCoastGal

Formatting saves eyes.

FYI


12 posted on 07/29/2004 7:20:33 AM PDT by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!(Except War & Love))
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To: abork

Whether this report is true or not it's certainly plausible. Our open, southern, border is a blot on the Bush administration's war on terror.

If the 9/11 terrorists were smart enough to exploit the airlines for their use then finding a way into the US, through Mexico, should be even easier.

Maybe looking for another attack in NY City is the wrong place to be looking. Dallas or Atlanta might be the right places. If we have attacks on our southern cities, Bush would have a lot of questions to answer.


13 posted on 07/29/2004 7:23:20 AM PDT by Noachian (Judicial legislation without the consent of the people is tyranny)
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To: Bikers4Bush

Reality tells everyone that short of Marshall Law (which ain't gonna happen) people are going to get across the borders. Hell, they can take a boat to the coast and get off. Actually, I think that is more feasible. that way they can bring their "suitcase" with them. If you think that having the military lined up along the border is going to stop this war, hummmm.


14 posted on 07/29/2004 7:27:16 AM PDT by marty60
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To: marty60
Interesting, Bush is doing nothing but they keep getting caught. HUMMMMMM

Part of interdiction, is keeping your mouth shut about the best places to head them off and round them up.

Though, maybe a phone call every now and then, letting people know the results of their reporting would provide some encouragement. It has to be pretty disheartening seeing all the traffic and no arrests.

15 posted on 07/29/2004 7:27:54 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: marty60

A wall, the military whatever it takes to get it done. Regardless anything would be more than what's being done now.

And I have news for you, having the military on the border might not stop it but it shure as hell is going to make it a lot harder on the terrorists.


16 posted on 07/29/2004 7:29:56 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: marty60
Interesting, Bush is doing nothing but they keep getting caught. HUMMMMMM

Interesting, Bush is doing nothing but they keep getting caught and released to go on their merry way. HMMMMMMMMMMMMM..........

17 posted on 07/29/2004 7:34:27 AM PDT by pageonetoo (Rush didn't know! Now, we all know! He probably broke the law! But, rushbots don't care! He's Rush!)
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To: abork

Did you really think the lives of a few thousand American citizens would put the kabash on both parties global agendas?

Nothing will be done about our borders until we get loud n mad, and even then, nothing may happen except a few citizens getting their heads clubbed.


18 posted on 07/29/2004 7:34:34 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Bikers4Bush

In all seriousness, do you really think a bunch of terrorists with unlimited funds, doesn't know how to train Islamofascist "SEAL" teams. They trained pilots etc. The fact remains the GOVERBMENT can not guarantee your safety. We all must take responsibility for the security of this country.


19 posted on 07/29/2004 7:34:38 AM PDT by marty60
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To: MissAmericanPie

The next time you go into any establishment, make sure you check to see if they have any illegals workimg there. Everytime you eat at a restraunt or frequent an establishment that hires illegals, you are supporting the problem. However, I find it interesting that most police depts KNOW where the illegals live and hang out, yet never arrest tham or at the very least call the INS. Start with your City Councils.


20 posted on 07/29/2004 7:40:30 AM PDT by marty60
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To: marty60

Homeland Security ...Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


21 posted on 07/29/2004 7:40:41 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: FormerACLUmember

IV


22 posted on 07/29/2004 7:43:02 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
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To: marty60
The next time you go into any establishment, make sure you check to see if they have any illegals workimg there. Everytime you eat at a restraunt or frequent an establishment that hires illegals, you are supporting the problem.

How? Should we go into the kitchen and demand to see all of the cooks' green cards before we order?

The private citizen can do very little without being accused of racism and summarily tossed out of the establishment.

23 posted on 07/29/2004 7:55:31 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: marty60

In all seriousness I think that I prefer that they would HAVE to train islamofascist seal teams to get in here instead of just walking across an open freaking border.

While the government cannot guarantee anyone's safety they should at least do the best they can. They are not.


24 posted on 07/29/2004 8:02:33 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: marty60

Good point.


25 posted on 07/29/2004 8:05:11 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I know it's tough. But, strangely I always check out the back of a restaraunt. They ususally hang out there.

What really makes me mad is that in Houston, there is 100's of "possible" illegals hanging out on WestPark St. It is so bad that when I go to my Doctor, I make sure my doors are locked. Not only is it very uncomfortable, but then to see HPD just sitting at Gas stations, doing nothing. Plus the fact they are routinely picked up to work at different projects around the city. Where is the INS checking for docs. When I had my store in Corpus, (national company) I received a visit from the border patrol asking to see my employees paper work. But that was when Ronald the Great was in office.

26 posted on 07/29/2004 8:06:12 AM PDT by marty60
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To: EggsAckley; abork; kevao
Congressman: Al Qaeda entering southern border and changing names to Mexican surnames

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MIDDLE-EASTERN INVADERS CAUGHT CROSSING FROM MEXICO IN COCHISE COUNTY IN PAST SIX WEEKS

Woman With Possible Terror Ties Arrested (smuggled thru our southern boarder)

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Tue Apr 20, 8:09 AM ET
Reuters

Jermaine Jackson(L), brother of Michael Jackson, Jackson family spokesman Firpo W. Carr(C) and Khawaja Khurshid Reshi hold a rug with a woven picture of Michael Jackson April 19, 2004, in Manama. Jermaine Jackson, in the Gulf to promote understanding between Muslims and his fellow Americans, said Tuesday that Muslims are 'the new Negroes in America.' Jermaine, a convert to Islam and dressed in white Arab garb, has been speaking about Islam and U.S. 'adventures' in Iraq to enthusiastic audiences at Koranic centers and universities in the Gulf Arab state of Bahrain. (Hamad I Mohammed/Reuters)

AL-QAIDA Suspect Arrested in Texas

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But did you know that there are 123 verses in the Quran concerning fighting and killing for the cause of Allah? Here are but a few passages:

-Muslims are encouraged to be wholly occupied (Sura 2:273) with fighting for Allah's cause.

- Allah will give "a far richer recompense to those who fight for him" (Sura 4:96).

- Regarding infidels (unbelievers), they are the Muslim's "inveterate enemies" (Sura 4:101). Muslims are to "arrest them, besiege them and lie in ambush everywhere" (Sura 9:5) for them. They are to "seize them and put them to death wherever you find them, kill them wherever you find them, seek out the enemies of Islam relentlessly" (Sura 4:90). "Fight them until Islam reigns supreme" (Sura 2:193). "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers" (Sura 8:12).

- If a Muslim does not go to war, Allah will kill him (Sura 9:39). He is to be told, "the heat of war is fierce, but more fierce is the heat of Hell-fire" (Sura 9:81).

- A Muslim must "fight for the cause of Allah with the devotion due to him" (Sura 22:78)

- Muslims must make war on the infidels (unbelievers) who live around them (Sura 9:123).

- Muslims are to be "ruthless to unbelievers" (Sura 48:29).

- A Muslim should "enjoy the good things" he has gained by fighting (Sura 8:69).

- A Muslim can kill any person he wishes if it be a "just cause" (Sura 6:152).

- Allah loves those who "fight for his cause" (Sura 61:3).
Anyone who fights against Allah or renounces Islam in favor of another religion shall be "put to death or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off alternative sides" (Sura 5:34).

- Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him. Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)

- Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5)

- Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. (Koran 69:30-37)

- I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them. (Koran 8:12)

- They should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides. (Koran 5:33)

- Know that paradise is under the shades of swords. Sahih al-Bukhari Vol 4 p55

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27 posted on 07/29/2004 8:06:23 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: Happy2BMe

And OBL has said ALL Americans are to be killed.


28 posted on 07/29/2004 8:10:53 AM PDT by marty60
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To: abork

With illegal aliens, what do the catch? 10 out of every 100? It begs the question, how many have they missed?


29 posted on 07/29/2004 9:30:10 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: marty60
Interesting, Bush is doing nothing but they keep getting caught.

Read #29.

Millions are entering our country from the south and God only knows how many with agendas of death have entered with little effort. Comments like yours, implying that everything is under control is ludicrous.

30 posted on 07/29/2004 9:35:31 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: abork

I'd trust stories in the Tumbleweed slightly more than I'd trust statements from the DHS, which isn't saying much. The publisher Chris Simcox seems fairly intelligent, but when I went there one of his co-workers was quite rude. Considering I'm probably the most sympathetic member of the (generally speaking) "press" they've ever met, I think that might go to their reasoning capabilities.


31 posted on 07/29/2004 9:45:24 AM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: abork

So what do we do to protect us?? The "Two-Party Cartel" has NO intentions of doing such. Only thing they agree on is spending YOUR money & giving them a raise.


32 posted on 07/29/2004 10:39:33 AM PDT by Digger
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Well, here is a sobering thought. Soon, the islamics coming in ovr the border will be hispanic and islamic.

I recently read a book about the illegals crossing over. The book said the area of the world that is seeing a huge wave of Islamic conversion is southern Mexico and the northern areas of South America. It said new madrasses are opening all the time. The tribal folks that live in these areas are blindly sending their children to these "schools" just feeling fortunate for the opportunity for a free education.


33 posted on 07/29/2004 10:45:38 AM PDT by riri
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To: cateizgr8

Ping.


34 posted on 07/29/2004 11:33:22 AM PDT by wingnutx (tanstaafl)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Read 26

The problem is not JUST at the BORDER.

35 posted on 07/29/2004 1:06:14 PM PDT by marty60
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To: marty60

You're right, the government is dumping these people all over the country. But the big problem is the southern border, and it remains the big problem due to the politicians that pander to this titanic invasion.


36 posted on 07/29/2004 1:18:25 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Happy2BMe

That link won't work for me, would you post the url? Thanks!


37 posted on 07/29/2004 3:20:40 PM PDT by AuntB ("You are entitled to your own opinion, but you’re not entitled to your own set of facts.’ R.Reagan)
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To: marty60

Is it true or not?


I have a reliable source that says several middle eastern men have been apprehended crossing into the US from Mexico, in that area, but nothing like the numbers reported by the Tumbleweed.


38 posted on 07/29/2004 3:33:15 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: abork
....On or about the early morning hours of June 13, 2004 Border patrol agents from the Willcox station encountered a large group of suspected illegal border crossers, estimated to be around 158, just east of the Sanders Ranch near the foothills of the Chiricauha Mountains. 71 suspected illegal aliens were apprehended; among them were 53 males of middle-eastern descent....

....On or about the evening of June 21, 2004, agents from the Willcox Border Patrol station apprehended 24 members of a larger group of Arabic speaking males located just east of the Pierce/Sunsites area of Cochise County. At least half of the males escaped capture and disappeared into the United States.

Pretty horrific.

39 posted on 07/29/2004 3:42:11 PM PDT by Republic (joe wilson is a LIAR-but since he is a democrat-the mainstream press is OK with it :^()
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To: Republic

And this same thing is going to keep on happening. This is what John & Ken (Show) - KFI640.com - is focusing on these days. Illegal immigration. Nobody wants to touch it. Not the Dems and not the Republicans. It's too hot and will tick off what they (each) hope will be an addition to their voting base. But I digress.....


40 posted on 07/29/2004 3:45:38 PM PDT by Max7
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To: Max7
This is one reason I am praying that we keep the house and senate and for sure, re-elect President Bush.

I believe things are going to happen so fast along our borders if this happens it will make President Fox and the liberal gooks in our nation faint with sheer shock!

41 posted on 07/29/2004 3:55:50 PM PDT by Republic (joe wilson is a LIAR-but since he is a democrat-the mainstream press is OK with it :^()
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

bttt


42 posted on 07/29/2004 4:29:23 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Let them eat amnesty)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

We are being invaded and the scarey part about it, is they are using our own freedoms against us. Al Quaeda is not stupid, I'll give them that. They know our weaknesses and they are exploiting them to the hilt. I think we are in for a country wide, coordinated attack. Then what will the ACLU have to say for itself.


43 posted on 07/29/2004 4:33:46 PM PDT by marty60
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