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(Former Kerry advisor Sandy) Berger flap was overplayed - due to slow day of news...
Democrat Herald ^ | 8/03/04

Posted on 8/4/2004, 2:49:54 AM by Libloather

Berger flap was overplayed
Tuesday, August 3, 2004
Last modified Tuesday, August 3, 2004 1:03 PM PDT

So the Berger affair apparently was just another Washington flap, drummed up to make political points and blown out of proportion because the press had a slow day.

The Wall Street Journal reported on the matter last Friday, although hardly anybody else mentioned it. An e-mail from Portland pointed it out to the D-H.

As you'll recall, a couple of weeks ago Samuel "Sandy" Berger, the former national security adviser in the Clinton administration, was accused of having taken classified material home from the National Archives, which is against the law. He had obtained access to the material in order to answer questions from the 9/11 Commission.

On Friday the Journal reported that officials looking into this admittedly unauthorized removal of classified material had reported that "no original materials are missing and nothing Mr. Berger reviewed was withheld from the commission ..."

This conclusion, according to the Journal, apparently lays to rest any question of whether material was withheld from the commission or destroyed - which had been inferred as the dark motive for Berger to take the material with him.

The story was emphatic that "no originals were missing and that all the material that Mr. Berger had access to had been turned over to the commission."

So, if all the stuff that Berger reviewed is accounted for, and if nothing is missing, what's so important about him having taken some of it with him in the first place? It still sounds like a breach of the law on handling classified records. But it does not sound like some underhanded scheme to thwart the 9/11 commission, or to hide something, or to shift blame to the Bush people. It was, as Berger has said himself on TV, just a dumb thing to do.

The story was on the front page of our paper when it broke. It evidently didn't merit that kind of play. It was not important. And if it was interesting, it was interesting only as an example of how politics sometimes works to distort harmless events. (hh)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: berger; clinton; corruption; flap; impeached; kerry; overplayed; sandyberger
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...drummed up to make political points and blown out of proportion because the press had a slow day.

I may have been 10 years old - but I do believe I remember the same headlines during the Nixon administration...

1 posted on 8/4/2004, 2:49:58 AM by Libloather
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To: Libloather

"Democrat Herald"
Has the NYtimes finally decided to change it's name?


2 posted on 8/4/2004, 2:51:18 AM by Betaille ("Show them no mercy, for none shall be shown to you")
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To: Libloather

Tell "overblown" to Julius and Ethyl Rosenberg. Slow news day my arse. Sandy clearly broke several federal laws, put national security at risk and tried to change the information available to a commission trying to determine how to stop a repeat of an attack on the country in which nearly 3,000 people died and a trillion dollars of damage to property and the economy happened. Saying "overblown" is an insult to a lot of people's memory.


3 posted on 8/4/2004, 2:55:45 AM by Lawgvr1955 (Kerry: Dukakis Lite)
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To: Libloather

why do they say no original material. to me all this says is he stole duplicates.


4 posted on 8/4/2004, 2:56:05 AM by Always Right
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To: Libloather
So, if all the stuff that Berger reviewed is accounted for, and if nothing is missing, what's so important about him having taken some of it with him in the first place? It still sounds like a breach of the law on handling classified records. But it does not sound like some underhanded scheme to thwart the 9/11 commission, or to hide something, or to shift blame to the Bush people. It was, as Berger has said himself on TV, just a dumb thing to do.

So, if I claim 'dumb' on a bank heist, do I get arrested? I am getting dizzy with all of this spin!!!! Berger either broke the law, or he didn't. Which one is it?

5 posted on 8/4/2004, 2:56:50 AM by eeriegeno
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To: Libloather
What Sandy Berger was not overplayed, in fact the story has been muzzled due to the "Shove It" comments by the Sea Hag that owns John Kerry and the other three nights of that Charade the Dems put on in Boston.

Sandy Berger should be brought to justice for his crimes

6 posted on 8/4/2004, 2:58:03 AM by MJY1288 (John Kerry Would Still Be Negotiating With the Taliban if he Was President)
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To: Libloather

Oh, ok. move along, nothing to see here.....not.


7 posted on 8/4/2004, 2:58:04 AM by SoCalPol (FLUSH THE JOHNS '04)
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To: Libloather

I guess if you are a 'Rat this is old hat but to the average American, the news that a key advisor to the DemocRat nominee committed multiple felonies by stealing classified documents is more than just filler for a slow news day.


8 posted on 8/4/2004, 3:00:03 AM by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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9 posted on 8/4/2004, 3:00:49 AM by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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If it wasn't a big deal, then why did Berger go through the trouble of stuffing TOP SECRET PAPERS into his trousers, shorts, and socks? According to the law, a copy of secret and confidential papers are to be treated as though they are the ORIGINAL. Removing them from the building in which they are stored, and on top of that, to do it in secret, is a FEDERAL OFFENSE!!! It seems these Demonrats think nothing of breaking Federal Laws!!" Clinton lying under oath in a Federal Court to a Federal Judge. John Kerry admitting killing non-combatants in Vietnam, and now Kerrys top advisor stealing top secret papers in his pants, shorts, and socks. And now we're suppose to TRUST THESE CRIMINALS WITH OUR COUNTRY'S HIGHEST OFFICE????

I DON'T THINK SOOOO!!!!

10 posted on 8/4/2004, 3:01:19 AM by Iam1ru1-2
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I guess "investigative" isn't part of that paper's journalism toolkit. Did Sandy Burglar KNOW that all he had were copies and that he wasn't hiding material from the Commission? Since x42 taught us how to parse sentences, what difference does it make if the originals were "available" to the commission? Did they SEE them? Did Sandy Burglar, who was responsible for selecting the documents for the Commission to review actually select those originals? Do we know what kind of phone Sandy Burglar as using? Do we know how Sandy Burglar destroyed the documents he took illegally? Are we certain they were destroyed? Why did Kerry pull material from his website after word of the theft leaked out? Coincidence? Has anyone matched the pulled material to the documents in question?

That is quite a bit to gloss over as a slow news day. I, for one, want answers to the questions I pose.

11 posted on 8/4/2004, 3:01:24 AM by NonValueAdded ("I actually was going to throw like a man before I threw like a girl." JFK 7/25/2004)
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On Friday the Journal reported that officials looking into this admittedly unauthorized removal of classified material had reported that "no original materials are missing and nothing Mr. Berger reviewed was withheld from the commission ..."

Nothing was withheld except the ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS, before Berger added notes flattering to Clinton and replaced them back at the Archives.

12 posted on 8/4/2004, 3:02:29 AM by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: Libloather

If anything, it's been underplayed because of the Hacking case in Utah!


13 posted on 8/4/2004, 3:02:51 AM by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Libloather
So Hillry has taken to writing editorials now.
14 posted on 8/4/2004, 3:03:40 AM by Just mythoughts
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To: Libloather

No slow news day, just a very convenient murder (not unlike many murders committed daily) in Salt Lake City to help divert attention away.


15 posted on 8/4/2004, 3:04:07 AM by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Libloather

Anyone ever hear of "Clickit or Ticket"? Over-reacting? Points on driving record? Move on? NOPE!!!


16 posted on 8/4/2004, 3:05:25 AM by Waco
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To: Libloather; rontorr

My brother buys the Albany (OR) Democrat-Herald Sunday edition for the TV Guide section, and he says that the paper is aptly named, though "Red" Herald might be more appropriate.

This opinion piece is laughable, in almost every paragraph. Laws "might" have been broken, but nothing important happened, according to the writer. That line says a lot about the writer, and the newspaper that published it.


17 posted on 8/4/2004, 3:10:57 AM by jimtorr
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Licorice: "What you don't understand is that my savior, John Kerry,
explained to me that there are "two Americas".
Some Democrats in power (or past power) are above all laws, even murder, even treason,
even destruction of federal CODE-level documents.
By the way, no rodent would do such a thing.
Compared to the Democrats, we rodents are all patriots."


Edwards was correct: There are two Americas.

"WELCOME TO THE REAL AMERICA WHERE CRIMINALS GET TO BE
CELEBRITIES AND CELEBRITIES GET AWAY WITH MURDER."
"TO DIE FOR" Columbia Pictures

18 posted on 8/4/2004, 3:23:52 AM by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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To: Libloather
Berger flap was overplayed

"Flap" is a code word used by the press to indicate to the rest of the press that a coverup is underway and they had better play along if they want to get along.

19 posted on 8/4/2004, 3:31:09 AM by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: TADSLOS
No slow news day, just a very convenient murder (not unlike many murders committed daily) in Salt Lake City to help divert attention away.

Amen!!

20 posted on 8/4/2004, 3:35:15 AM by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter & a sense that the world was mad.")
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