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1 posted on 08/04/2004 10:10:57 AM PDT by doug from upland
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Art Bell / George Noory BUMP

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2 posted on 08/04/2004 10:13:37 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: doug from upland
Art Bell? Shields up DFU! You KNOW what your fellow FReepers will say...

I catch Art very rarely, usually when traveling an all night trip from somewhere or another. The last show I caught (off and on) was about ghost recordings. Truly spooky stuff, and kept me awake through a long stretch of Florida panhandle.
3 posted on 08/04/2004 10:14:56 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: doug from upland

Wow..
Thanks for updating this story..

Been waiting for more on this...
If there's a ping please place me there..


5 posted on 08/04/2004 10:16:01 AM PDT by wildehunt
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I will be listening! Thanks for the reminder!!! ;)


6 posted on 08/04/2004 10:17:11 AM PDT by BossLady (Kerry/Edwards - They talk so much crap you need two Johns.......)
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Ping.

I apologize if some of you had asked me to put you on a Jayna Davis ping list. I screwed up and erased it. If you know someone who has been interested in this topic, please ping them here.

7 posted on 08/04/2004 10:18:02 AM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry is a sports fan like Lorena Bobbitt is a surgeon)
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Jayna Davis bump. Will be listening!


8 posted on 08/04/2004 10:18:31 AM PDT by christie (http://www.hillaryforpresident-2008.com -- NOT!)
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I stopped listening to him after hearing too many anti-Bush conspiracy theories on the economy, terrorism and Iraq. I will tune in for Davis though. I had suggested her as a guest to him many months ago when he was downplaying the threat Iraq posed.
9 posted on 08/04/2004 10:18:41 AM PDT by Dolphy
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12 posted on 08/04/2004 10:20:23 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (I pray that Im wrong about alot of things.)
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Hey DFU! Sorry to be a nerd, but, where will this be aired. I've never heard of Coast to Coast so I assume I don't get it. Can one listen over the net?


17 posted on 08/04/2004 10:22:05 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama (www.cantheban.net --Can the "assault" weapons ban!)
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Kinda wish it was the weekend, so Art would be hosting -- He's quite an underrated interviewer. But I'm sure George will do well -- the topic is compelling all by itself.


18 posted on 08/04/2004 10:22:05 AM PDT by JennysCool (The Clinton Legacy: Sandy Berger's Pants)
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Whoops ---- it is George Noory.


20 posted on 08/04/2004 10:23:56 AM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry is a sports fan like Lorena Bobbitt is a surgeon)
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After a talk show appearance with Doug McIntyre, subbing for Larry Elder, Jayna joined us on this thread for a discussion --- CLICK.
28 posted on 08/04/2004 10:32:25 AM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry is a sports fan like Lorena Bobbitt is a surgeon)
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This was one of Clinton's great coverups. He used this bombing to save his presidency and to go after "right wing" hate and militia groups and so-called "hate talk radio." The man who turned our White House into a whorehouse, ignored Islamic terror and allowed it to grow out of control.


30 posted on 08/04/2004 10:34:22 AM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry is a sports fan like Lorena Bobbitt is a surgeon)
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TRAIL OF TERROR
'Iraq Linked to 9-11 and Oklahoma City Bombing'

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Wes Vernon, NewsMax.com
Monday, Sept. 9, 2002

WASHINGTON-The Wall Street Journal has added its voice to those - in and out of government - who have concluded the circumstantial evidence linking Saddam Hussein’s Iraq to the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, the 1993 first World Trade Center bombing, as well as the 9-11 attacks, is overwhelming.

Former CIA Director James Woolsey also expresses skepticism that Timothy McVeigh, executed for the Oklahoma City bombing, and his accomplice Terry Nichols, sentenced to life in prison and awaiting further trial on murder charges, could have planned and executed this monstrous crime all by themselves.

Woolsey believes the work of persistent investigators, reporter Jayna Davis and Middle East expert Laurie Mylroie, are onto something, as many clues in their separate probes point ominously toward Baghdad.

"[W]hen the full stories of these two incidents [Oklahoma City and the first Trade Center bombing] are finally told,” he told the Journal, "those who permitted the investigations to stop short will owe big explanations to these two brave women. And the nation will owe them a debt of gratitude.”

In a lengthy carefully worded Sept. 5 op-ed piece, Wall Street Journal senior editorial page writer Micah Morrison says while the information to date stops short of "conclusive evidence” the Iraqi dictator was implicated in the attacks on the Trade Center or the federal building in Oklahoma City, "there is quite a bit of smoke curling up from the various routes to Baghdad…”

That the Wall Street Journal is taking a serious look at the "Iraq connection” is significant if for no other reason than the fact that this Dow Jones icon of business journalism is not noted for an addiction to wild conspiracy theories.

But the WSJ is by no means alone. Other mainstream publications have recently weighed in with similar observations.

"Our position is: Congress should hold hearings on evidence of previous Iraqi connections to terror,” editorialized the Indianapolis Star Sept. 7.

"In the Oklahoma City case,” the paper added, "[Jayna] Davis painstakingly reviewed telephone records that indicate Terry Nichols contacted Iraqi intelligence in the Philippines to acquire bomb-making expertise.”

Two weeks earlier, Star editorial writer James Patterson wrote that Indiana Rep. Dan Burton’s House Government Reform Committee had spent some of the August congressional recess "sniffing around” Oklahoma City looking for reasons to believe that Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols had help.

"They found plenty,” Patterson reported.

Committee staff interviewed at least six people who claimed they saw McVeigh keeping company with "foreign-looking men” in the days, "even minutes” prior to the blast at the Murrah federal building that killed 168 innocents on April 19, 1995.

Apparently, the committee’s interest was aroused in part by David Schippers, the Chicago lawyer hired in 1998 as chief investigative counsel for the House Judiciary Committee’s work in the impeachment of then-President Bill Clinton. According to Patterson, Schippers "has been traversing the country” citing Davis’s investigative work in the case.

Yet another credible voice has been added to the chorus of those who do not believe the execution of McVeigh and the sentencing of Nichols neatly added up to "case closed.” Larry Johnson, former deputy director of the State Department’s Office of Counter-Terrorism has told TV audiences that his suspicions in the case were confirmed by "his own deeply held law enforcement contacts” 9Patterson’s description). Further, Johnson is convinced the Middle East terrorist cell that carried out the bombing is still in business.

Suspicion that Iraq was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks was fueled mainly by reports over the past year of a meeting in Prague in April 2001 between apparent hijacker Mohammed Atta (believed to have piloted the first plane that crashed into the World Trade Center a year ago) and Iraqi diplomat Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir el-Ani.

The fact that Atta was located in Virginia and then in Florida shortly before and after the reported meeting has caused much of the media to dismiss the story. Two things about that:

A high Bush administration official was quoted in the August 2 Los Angles Times as saying evidence of the meeting "holds up.”

Czech officials have insisted the meeting took place. They subsequently expelled the Iraqi diplomat. Further, the Wall Street Journal cites several reported contacts between the Iraqis and the al-Qaeda terrorist network, something that CIA Director George Tenet has confirmed in congressional testimony.

Espionage writer Edward Jay Epstein reports on his website that an Iraqi defector has stated that Iraqi intelligence has trained groups on how to hijack planes without weapons.

Editorialist Micah Morrison, in his Wall Street Journal piece, credits Davis and Mylroie as having "looked very hard for fire” in the "Iraq connection.”

That connection "remains a speculative possibility,” Morrison adds, "but a possibility that needs to be put on the table in a serious way.”

Such as a hearing soon by Congressman Burton’s House committee?

As the U.S. notes the anniversary of the biggest terror attack so far —Sept.11 - President Bush is contemplating going to war with Iraq. Some believe he has already decided. If any or all three of the murderous attacks can be traced to Saddam Hussein, the question of whether the U.S. is justified in pursuing that course then becomes academic. At that point, the smoking gun having been found, the argument is settled. The debate ends. It means war.


34 posted on 08/04/2004 10:41:24 AM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry is a sports fan like Lorena Bobbitt is a surgeon)
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I really hate conspiracy stuff, but I remember Tim McVeigh initially being arrested because (as a radical Constitutionalist) he did not EVER have a driver's license. Then he was convicted and sentenced to death on the key piece of evidence that he'd rented the Ryder truck, in his own name and with a driver's license he'd never had and was never presented into evidence. Not to mention the confession he'd made after being kept awake for 72 hours straight. Then there's the issue that the FBI has called the bomb identical to the Al Qaeda bomb used at the WTC in 1993. McVeigh was apparently a Constitutionalist and was accused of being a racist, skinhead, and neo-Nazi...which made him exempt from the due-process laws that apply to everyone else. I'm not a fan of the guy, but I just have never been convinced that he actually did this since the key pieces don't fit.

The one key piece that never fit is this: if McVeigh had no qualms about killing potentially 1,000 or more people, then why did he have such a moral issue over just STEALING a truck to blow up? It's not logical that the guy would plan so extensively and then RENT a truck to blow up with his REAL NAME. It never made sense to me and it seemed the government's case was just too easy.


39 posted on 08/04/2004 11:24:21 AM PDT by PeterFinn
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Gotta go take a nap now!


40 posted on 08/04/2004 11:37:52 AM PDT by Right_Handed_Writer
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Bumping for the truth of OKC to finally be revealed. End the coverup.


44 posted on 08/04/2004 4:32:03 PM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry is a sports fan like Lorena Bobbitt is a surgeon)
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Doug do you have a link to find if this is carried locally for me and the link on the web to listen just in case?
Thanks!

Jayna, YOU ROCK!@!!


45 posted on 08/04/2004 5:13:25 PM PDT by JustPiper (We may not know what you think we know...BUT we do know)
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Quite a compelling interview. It is ironic that the original presumption was that the building was atacked by Islamic terrorists. Seems that presumption was right.


68 posted on 08/05/2004 5:30:50 AM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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Thanks for posting this reminder, Doug. Greatly apreciated it. I listened to most of the interview.

What really torks me off is she alleges complicity of Federal Officials (Republicans and Democrats) in a massive cover-up in the murders of over 3,000 people. Her allegations were proven in a Federal Court case and then swept under the rug. Affidavits by 24 eye witnesses and a huge box of evidence "disappeared" after she turned it over to the Justice Department. Piles of evidence was not shared with defense attorneys as requied by law. In fact, she says the evidence disappeared because if would implicate top level people in serious Federal crimes.

Ms. Davis is really torked off and is calling for a full investigation. She wants heads to roll. From the top on down. She urged listeners to write to Washington and demand a full investigation.

But there is more:

Bin Laden and al Qaeda cells are linked by hard evidence to Iraqi covert agents involved with the Oklahoma bombing and 9-11. These cover operatives are still working in the U.S. right now. The "Third Terrorist" is still here in the U.S. and is still being funded by sources linked to al Qaeda. Right now. Today. George Noorey said, "I hope this guy is under active surveillance." Ms. Davis specifically said at one point "there are 5,000 al Qaeda or Iraqi" cells plotting new attacks here in the U.S.

Well, if he was or is, certainly now he knows he is being watched. Watch your back, Jayna Davis!

My Question: Why doesn't Bush point to this evidence and say that Iraq was working with al Qaeda with covert operatives in the U.S. ? I dunno. Do you?

69 posted on 08/05/2004 5:31:59 AM PDT by ex-Texan
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