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When Yuppies Go N.I.M.B.Y. Zoning Issues and the Good Neighbor Policy
Self ^ | 08/05/2004 | Self

Posted on 08/05/2004 8:36:56 PM PDT by farmer18th

 

When Yuppies go N.I.M.B.Y.

Zoning Issues and the Good Neighbor Policy

In our mutual desire to preserve the rural felicities of our little valley, we must remember, that—above all else—being a “good neighbor” is the best way to preserve community peace.    Here are some guidelines for being a good neighbor in these trying times of urban sprawl:

 

1.         It almost goes without saying, but if you own property in our little valley and you haven’t built a home yet, consider not building.      If you build a home, it might seriously impact our views of the valley, and no one likes to hear the sound of strangers walking around at night.    If you have children, especially, please consider that a rural setting like this is just not appropriate for youngsters.   They might wander onto our property.    Besides, you can save yourself a lot of heartache by avoiding all the design fees and county permits.   

 

2.         If you don’t build a home, please be courteous and keep your property properly landscaped and weed-free.     During windstorms, dust from your property can cause real problems for your neighbors, so you might want to consider a ground cover.     Always remember, though, that it’s best to tell your neighbors when you plan to maintain your garden.    Call a few days before you intend to visit your property, and get your neighbor’s approval for any power tools you might be using.   If you use a landscaper or lawn service, please let us know his name and phone number, so that we can take action if he wanders onto our property.

 

3.         Many of us moved here because we loved blue skies and farm country that was close enough to the city to let us keep our high-paying, urban jobs.    We work hard for a living and we work hard to maintain our homes.    If you own a farm here,  it’s extremely inconsiderate for you to allow customers onto your land for produce sales on the weekend.      That is our rest time.      We deal in commerce every day.    Perhaps you could consider selling your produce off site, to a broker or retail store.     Yes, you might lose money that way, but think of the good it will do the community.    Remember, if you do sell produce off site, you need to get your neighbor’s approval for delivery pickups.    Diesel trucks are noisy!

 

4.         Many of us are upset with some of you farmers for cutting down fruit trees!    Those trees are part of our viewscape.    Please keep them in good health, well-watered, and properly pruned.     Remember, being a good neighbor helps us all!

 

5.         Some of you farmers have turned your places into agritourist attractions, with petting zoos, farm stays, youth camps, living history displays, even restaurants.   It’s hard to imagine how anyone could be so inconsiderate of their neighbors’ peace and tranquility.    Yes, many of us first saw your valley by visiting one of these establishments.  (Our kids still talk about it!)   But now that we’re here, isn’t it about time we preserved our valley for the people who really appreciate it?    Do we really want other people up here?    

 

6.         We know this is farm country, but, please, consider not raising any animals.    One of our first memories of this valley was taking a hayride behind a beautiful team of draft horses.   It was rustic, romantic, unforgettable, but now that we live here, we worry that an accumulation of horse droppings might cause an odor problem.    (We haven’t actually smelled anything yet, but we’re worried about a precedent.    Be a good neighbor and get rid of the animals.)

 

7.         We bought a lovely three acre piece next to a beautiful 500 acre apple orchard.   It sure would be nice to go hiking sometime, but some of you farmers have put a gate on your property line.    That’s a good and a bad thing.    If you have customers, it keeps them from wandering into our property but it also keeps us from wandering onto yours.   Perhaps you could give us a key and perhaps you could consider increasing your liability insurance coverage, so that if we’re hurt, you’ll be covered?

 

8.         We all agree that subdivision and more housing is everyone’s enemy in this peaceful little farming valley.     The farmer who sold us our three acre piece nearly cried when he had to part with it.   His sorrow was a touching counterpoint to our joy.      But let’s make sure this never happens again.    Be a good neighbor and sign our petition to keep lot sizes 20 acres or more.

 

9.         Having agreed that we need to block subdivisions, can we agree that those of us who are already here should cut each other a little slack on the planning side?     We want to build a small guest house for our adult daughter and her family.   Is that really going to hurt anyone?   Please, people!   Be considerate.   Be a good neighbor.

 

10.       For heaven’s sake, if you conduct some sort of rural business here in our little valley,  keep the profit motive in check.    A good rural citizen shouldn’t have a business that’s open for more than three months a year.    Let subsistence level living be your motive.    Your neighbors don’t work twelve months a year to see you doing the same thing.    Be considerate.   

 

 11.      Having a built a home with all the modern conveniences, in the middle of this beautiful country, we find ourselves now keenly interested in preserving the environment.     Have enough studies really been completed here?     Perhaps there are species and habitats that we are not protecting, not even considering.   Farmers, are you listening?    Have you considered organic methods?  

 

12.       The proliferation of fruit trees, while enhancing our viewscape, can create a bear problem.     Farmers, in addition to keeping your orchards in good condition, you need to keep those bears away from our homes without disturbing the environment.     We know you’ll be a good neighbor and find a way.   

 

13.       The key to being a good neighbor, in the final analysis, doesn’t really rest in doing unto others what you would have them do unto you.     You might be a fairly easy going, flexible person who believes in “living and letting live.”   We can’t have that.    You might expect the same from us.

 



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KEYWORDS: countryliving; environment; environmentalists; nimby; propertyrights; zoning
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Forgive me. This was therapy...
1 posted on 08/05/2004 8:36:58 PM PDT by farmer18th
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To: farmer18th

OK. I thought it was serious, then I thought it wasn't then I thought it was.


2 posted on 08/05/2004 8:42:08 PM PDT by NotQuiteCricket
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To: farmer18th

This is excellent! It's great, send it out for publication, it really skewers the deserving!

Viewscape, lol, good word!


3 posted on 08/05/2004 8:43:18 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: farmer18th

As a lifelong resident from the fastest growing county in my state...ROFL.


4 posted on 08/05/2004 8:47:03 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("When the chips were down, you could not count on John Kerry." - Swift Boat Veterans for Truth)
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To: farmer18th

Priceless. Thanks


5 posted on 08/05/2004 8:51:29 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: farmer18th
My in-laws own 40 acres out in the middle of the Nevada desert. They bought it 15 years ago and about 5 years ago they retired and planned to build a modular home on the property and move in. They started going to county meetings where they were discussing zoning laws. The locals in their new neighborhood showed up to protest the "boxcar" houses (their word for anything that wasn't a stick home) that the county wanted to zone the area for.

I attended a few of these meetings and listened to the neighbors talk about their "$250,000" homes and how their property would be hurt by "boxcar" homes. I did some investigating by driving around the area to see what a "$250,000" home looked like. Sheesh, you'd think Charlie Manson had gone Mormon and the whole clan had moved into the valley.

Long story short, my in-laws got their zoning and put up their modular home (along with a few stick outbuildings). I've got to say that their property is an enhancement to the valley.

6 posted on 08/05/2004 8:58:51 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: farmer18th; farmfriend; calcowgirl; AuntB; marsh2; ridesthemiles
"Viewscape"

Well, actually, it's "Viewshed," as in "Watershed," etc. Yes, it was good writing and theraputic for me in that it transported me back to endless hours of public hearings on our county's General Plan. The Exurban Refugees would line up and drone on for hours, into the wee small hours, about "protecting our rule environment!"

I guess the public school system of indoctrination never taught them that rural is a two sylable word and not "rule!" I especially like what you wrote about "organic farming." What a crock!!! All these smartasses are good for is making every single thing cost more... including government that seems to be their god!!!

They just love "winning through intimidation" and coopting the shear force of government enforcement!!! You did a good job of capturing their unmitigated gall, insolence and arrogance, thouroghly mixed with audacity!!!

7 posted on 08/05/2004 9:02:59 PM PDT by SierraWasp (You better believe it! America IS exceptional!! I will always believe in American exceptionalism!!!)
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To: farmer18th

That's excellent. You really caught the flavor of how those folks think.


8 posted on 08/05/2004 9:03:27 PM PDT by Sabatier
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To: SierraWasp

priceless! :-)


9 posted on 08/05/2004 9:23:36 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: jocon307

The main gripe is trees that grow and block the view. I'm thinking of doing a night job myself.


10 posted on 08/05/2004 9:30:29 PM PDT by Torie
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To: farmer18th

Pardon me, is this the line to the Department of Class Warfare?


11 posted on 08/05/2004 9:52:50 PM PDT by VxH (This species has amused itself to death.)
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To: SierraWasp; farmer18th
Man Puts Pigs in Yard Over Denied Zoning Request

I'm still cracking up over this one. His neighbors didn't understand the meaning of Agricultural zoning.

12 posted on 08/05/2004 10:21:18 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: farmfriend

What I find profoundly disturbing about our own local zoning discussions, is that people who are otherwise conservative become downright Sierra Club when it comes to anything their neighbors are doing with their land. Within certain very wide bounds, I couldn't give a rip what my neighbors do with their land. Wish they felt the same.


13 posted on 08/05/2004 11:11:27 PM PDT by farmer18th
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To: farmer18th; Carry_Okie
I agree. I care what my neighbor does with his land in the sense that it effects my land. Carry_Okie is a prime example of that. He has worked diligently to rid his property of invasive species and promoting native species. His neighbors do not. The resulting seed spread to his land is a problem.

What you do with your land is fine but you must be responsible for the consequences. NIMBYs want all the power and none of the responsibility.

14 posted on 08/05/2004 11:18:01 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: farmer18th
My neighbor owns a vineyard. He says he uses the weeds to control erosion. He tills it every year, assuring that he has almost entirely exotic post-disturbance ruderals with shallow tap roots (horrible erosion control plants).

I end up weeding a fair amount other people's property to protect my own, perhaps an additional an additional 8 acres, but fifteen weeks a year of weeding due largely to other people's irresponsibility doesn't seem quite fair. In addition to my neighbor, the real villain is the County. They banned roadside spraying, so they mow. Those damned mowers and ditch cleaning equipment spread everything all over the county. A lot of it is poisonous. Given that we live in one of the mildest climates in the world, everything grows here.

The problem is the sheer volume and dispersion of the weeds my neighbor owns. I simply cannot weed my own property and enough of his to keep the stuff from coming back, I just can't get around that fast. He has bullthistle, Italian thistle, catsear (two types), hedge parsley (three types), bedstraw (two types), field madder, star thistle (two types), Chinese hats, dandelions, dogtail grass, ripgut, red sorrel, rattlesnake grass (two types), tall oats, soft brome, cheat grass, hairy chess, Zorro fescue, foxtails (two types), rabbitsfoot grass, Italian rye, eucalyptus, acacia, French broom, cotoneaster, black medick, burclover, cranesbill (two types), long fruited filaree, scarlet pimpernel, Algerian ivy, English ivy, cudweed (two types), horseweeed, and sowthistle (two types) along with a couple I haven't yet identified.

This year we got our first sticky eupatorium. Oh joy.

Our property has an enormously rich range of habitat with nearly 285 plant species on only fourteen acres. I have been working on the restoration for fifteen years, and committed tens of thousands of dollars. Why should I have to endure setting aside 20% of it just to be a weed buffer? I don't give a rip what he does with his land either, in the sense that if he wants to ranch it, grow grapes, or raise horses, whatever. I just wish he'd be a might more responsible and start cleaning the heavy equipment he brings in and show the common sense to seed a cover crop. It's only rational when his vineyard is on a 15% slope of silty alluvium and we can get 4" of rain an hour.

15 posted on 08/05/2004 11:58:40 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Three choices: War on Terror, submit to Islam, or die.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I don't know what's worse--a neighboring farmer who is irresponsible or a yuppie couple who want you to farm at a loss to keep up their views.


16 posted on 08/06/2004 6:14:41 AM PDT by farmer18th
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To: farmer18th

This is GREAT. Very funny and totally spot on.


17 posted on 08/06/2004 6:17:31 AM PDT by FeliciaCat
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To: farmer18th
I don't know what's worse--a neighboring farmer who is irresponsible or a yuppie couple who want you to farm at a loss to keep up their views.

He's an engineer, not a farmer. As far as a loss is concerned, I'm doing research for a business that develops habitat restoration processes to help landowners get something for all the free management the government illegally compels them to do. In effect, my land is a commercial lab on a new legal model.

I can barely get any work done because of the extra load on me my irresponsible neighbor induces. I write and speak about environmental issues as well. I have a half million dollars committed to this business. If you don't think what he's doing costs me a bundle you are seriously mistaken.

I know full well that what I'm doing is normally part of the government university cabal. I want you to think about the real cost of all that "free" R&D. My plan is to take that business back for landowners and create habitat management enterprises that overlay existing land uses. Free enterprise respecting private property rights can do a better job of balancing land uses from pure natural landscapes to the urban interface without such destructive coercion.

18 posted on 08/06/2004 6:55:52 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Three choices: War on Terror, submit to Islam, or die.)
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To: Carry_Okie
You and I are probably on the same track. If the public wants to see pristine farm land and wilderness area, keep them privately held, (or sell federal land to individuals), so that the public can visit those areas at a fair market price. Capitalism works.

Now if we could only convince our neighbors to read a little Adam Smith.
19 posted on 08/06/2004 8:52:58 AM PDT by farmer18th
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To: farmer18th
Now if we could only convince our neighbors to read a little Adam Smith.

Or (better yet), this.

20 posted on 08/06/2004 9:09:31 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Three choices: War on Terror, submit to Islam, or die.)
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