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CNN Chairman Parsons Takes Shot at Fox
Broadcasing & Cable: The Business of Television ^ | 8/6/2004 | John Eggerton

Posted on 08/07/2004 8:59:16 AM PDT by Che Chihuahua

Parsons Takes Shot at Fox

By John Eggerton -- Broadcasting & Cable, 8/6/2004 2:22:00 PM

Time Warner Inc. chairman Dick Parsons Friday described Fox News Channel as "crazy people exchanging views," telling a group of minority journalists in Washington he felt that the channel and his own Cable News Network are two different services.

When asked by Univision Anchor Jorge Ramos why CNN was losing the ratings battle with Fox, he was not ready to concede that. He said that Fox was more like talk radio on TV, which meant that its viewers stayed longer because people tended to "come and sit down for an hour or two and listen to crazy people exchange views." CNN actually draws more viewers, he said, but said they were grazers who didn't stay long.

Parsons said he did not feel CNN was liberal, but instead has a bias for the truth. He conceded that journalists are often perceived as liberal because they tend to challenge the establishment. He did not make an overt comparison with Fox, but he did say that his news operation "does not give a corporate slant to its journalism. We don't tell them how to report."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: albatross; bias; cnn; dickparsons; fox; foxnews; journalism; liberal; timewarner
"...CNN actually draws more viewers, he said, but said they were grazers who didn't stay long."
Either the average CNN viewer suffers from Adult Attention Deficit Disorder or they don't want to watch untalented lightweight "journalists" like Paula Zahn.
1 posted on 08/07/2004 8:59:16 AM PDT by Che Chihuahua
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To: Che Chihuahua

This statement means that CNN cannot find a way to beat FOX News. Desperation from the LEFT is pretty to see.


2 posted on 08/07/2004 9:00:50 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Che Chihuahua

Maybe instead of babyish attacks, he should apologize for his networks liberal, pro-democrat bias, and say he will work to fix it. Then maybe he'll start getting viewers back.


3 posted on 08/07/2004 9:02:40 AM PDT by Betaille ("Show them no mercy, for none shall be shown to you")
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To: Che Chihuahua
he said, but said they were grazers who didn't stay long.

Dickie calls his few viewers Cows?

4 posted on 08/07/2004 9:03:04 AM PDT by JimVT (I was born a Democrat..but then I grew up)
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To: Che Chihuahua

Lemme guess. The "mouth of the south" has been replaced by "the mouth of the north". Wish someone would drop a double wide on one and a Cape Code style on the other.


5 posted on 08/07/2004 9:03:44 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: Che Chihuahua
He conceded that journalists are often perceived as liberal because they tend to challenge the establishment.

Challenge the establishment?? Only if the 'establishment' has a Republican president. When there's a democRAT in, they lick his boots.

6 posted on 08/07/2004 9:05:22 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Che Chihuahua

"journalists are often perceived as liberal because they tend to challenge the establishment."
What a joke! I remember watching CNN in the 1996 election year and they never challenged clinton on anything. Everything was "The economy is booming", "Dole is negative". If you read Bernard Goldberg's "Bias", you know what I'm talking about. Poverty seemed to dissapear from the presses eye when clinton became president, then reappeared when the republicans regained the white house it came back as the big issue.
Speaking of the establishment... if they challenge the establishment, then why have they never done a critical peice on hollywood, or on public education?


7 posted on 08/07/2004 9:06:10 AM PDT by Betaille ("Show them no mercy, for none shall be shown to you")
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To: Che Chihuahua
Parsons said he did not feel CNN was liberal, but instead has a bias for the truth.

Within the past week have heard anchors make off color remarks about Bush while on the air. Could tell where their bias was. What the he** are they talking about..? Pot calling the kettle black.

8 posted on 08/07/2004 9:06:53 AM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: Che Chihuahua
they don't want to watch untalented lightweight "journalists" like Paula Zahn.

I don't mind watching Paula Zahn. I just keep the sound off.

9 posted on 08/07/2004 9:08:02 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: Che Chihuahua
>>>Parsons said he did not feel CNN was liberal, but instead has a bias for the truth.

Parsons is FOS!

10 posted on 08/07/2004 9:09:17 AM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: Betaille

Well said...1993-2001 all they did was lay in bed with Slick and Hillary. When the Dems had all of Washington, they thought it was the best thing since hot cereal. What a weenie.

As for Fox, they are pretty worthless these days. Just commie lite.


11 posted on 08/07/2004 9:11:58 AM PDT by Luke21 (Christ is wonderful)
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To: truthandlife
This statement means that CNN cannot find a way to beat FOX News. Desperation from the LEFT is pretty to see.

Lately Fox has been giving them all the ammunition they need to get beat. They have been so biased toward Kerry that I can't stand to watch them anymore.

12 posted on 08/07/2004 9:13:36 AM PDT by armymarinemom (Ultimate Flip Flop->I support the Troops but not their mission)
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To: Luke21

"As for Fox, they are pretty worthless these days. Just commie lite."
Nah. It is frustrating that they don't cover every story good for conservatives, but at least americans are finally getting both sides of the story. They still do a very good job representing the conservative point of view on things like abortion, homeschooling, under g-d in the pledge, gay marriage, etc...


13 posted on 08/07/2004 9:14:18 AM PDT by Betaille ("Show them no mercy, for none shall be shown to you")
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To: Che Chihuahua

Meanwhile, at Netscape, they are still showing as their main headline the beheading of the San Francisco man (NOT that it is a hoax) Netscape gets their headlines from CNN, who, 4 hours after everyone here knew it was a hoax, still is treating it as real news.


14 posted on 08/07/2004 9:14:59 AM PDT by jaybee
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To: Che Chihuahua
Parsons said he did not feel CNN was liberal, but instead has a bias for the truth.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA.......this guy should go on "Last Comic Standing"!

15 posted on 08/07/2004 9:15:44 AM PDT by Ima Lurker
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To: armymarinemom
They have been so biased toward Kerry that I can't stand to watch them anymore.

Since when has reporting what the enemy is doing being BIASED ?

Pay attention not only to what is being reported but HOW its being reported kerry is no friend to FOX and i would venture to say FOX is no friend to Kerry

16 posted on 08/07/2004 9:20:37 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Sharing the world has never been Humanity's Defining Attribute)
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To: Che Chihuahua

Yes people who go to CNN are grazing, but I guess they don't like the buffet choices over there. Imagine that. For once I agree with CNN's leadership.

CNN is basicly the sanitized version of A.N.S.W.E.R., they believe in the same things, they just couch their beliefs a little better.

Ash heap of history, get ready for your next arrival.


17 posted on 08/07/2004 9:21:01 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Che Chihuahua

'Grazed' over to CNN yesterday morning just in time to see the business guy and the resident curmudgeon go into a fit of the vapors over the jobs numbers - lead in "Wow, this is bad news for the administration...bad...really bad..." (paraphrase) and then for a couple of minutes waxing psuedo-agonizingly on how bad it was and numerous references to what the democrats could do with the news (hint! hint!).
(BTW, for a real analysis of the numbers, see the superb and succinct explanation by John Armor (CongerssmanBillyBob) here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1186947/posts


18 posted on 08/07/2004 9:23:15 AM PDT by jim macomber (Author: "Bargained for Exchange", "Art & Part", "A Grave Breach" http://www.jamesmacomber.com)
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To: Che Chihuahua
Parsons said he did not feel CNN was liberal, but instead has a bias for the truth.

Living proof that arrogance isn't just for those with IQs over 100.
19 posted on 08/07/2004 9:26:44 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: Che Chihuahua

The Fox these gas bags need to take 'a shot' at is the one S.O.B. ....SOB (South of the Border)


20 posted on 08/07/2004 9:38:49 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Che Chihuahua

Sad, they can't understand we the listeners/viewers make the choice for what we want to see or hear..CNN doesn't seem to be able to deliver anymore. Even Microsoft wants rid of MSNBC ..gone will be the "M". Competition is healthy. They have to understand we have the freedom of choice.

Talk radio(the underground news source) was the only way the average Joe or Jane could have a voice. When our government and all our elected officials (for the people by the people)start listening, then we wouldn't rely on talk radio, the net and related sources to express our viewpoints and concerns.

And where's the other viewpoint of this story...on FR, that's where.






21 posted on 08/07/2004 9:44:06 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: Che Chihuahua
"but said they were grazers who didn't stay long. "

hahaha,,, I'm a grazer to CNN ! I watch Fox for a long time, then click over to CNN for 1 minute to see what they are up to,,, then wind up back at Fox...

22 posted on 08/07/2004 10:10:56 AM PDT by CharlotteVRWC
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To: Che Chihuahua
...bias for the truth

my ass

23 posted on 08/07/2004 10:12:53 AM PDT by mcenedo (lying liberal media - our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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To: Che Chihuahua

CNN has been falling like a rock for some time,,,I cannot stand Judy Woodruff as one example. Had to laugh, about a year ago walked into the living room, my husband was "fuming" he said "Call for Satellite connection" if I have to look at CNN one more day for news I will explode.....he has not watched CNN since...


24 posted on 08/07/2004 10:14:34 AM PDT by Burlem
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To: Che Chihuahua
"Parsons said he did not feel CNN was liberal, but instead has a bias for the truth."

A perfect example of truth - and an immediate disqualifyer . . .

25 posted on 08/07/2004 10:29:30 AM PDT by cricket (Don't Lose Your Head. . .Vote Republican)
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To: truthandlife

Still nostalgic for communism after all these years of being beaten in the ratings because that's the way they are.
Desperately, they are at the stage where any totalitarianism will do, no matter how barbaric, no matter how heinous, no matter how backward. Anything that will harm America and its founding principles.


26 posted on 08/07/2004 10:34:36 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Che Chihuahua
his news operation "does not give a corporate slant to its journalism. We don't tell them how to report."

How quickly he forgot that just a year ago CNN admitted their corporation deliberately required their staff to suppress the negative information about Saddam and human rights abuses in Iraq.

CNN not only has a political bias, it sacrifices human blood and lives for ratings.

27 posted on 08/07/2004 11:04:12 AM PDT by Tamzee (Tell me honestly, Honey... do these classified documents make me look fat?)
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To: Che Chihuahua
LOL! Listening to CNN try to make excuses for their poor ratings is like listening to an alcoholic deny they have a real problem. Until CNN address their bias issue the ratings will never change.

Remember when CNN said they were losing because their screen format was boring, and not flashy like FOXNEWS? They changed their screen format to be just like Foxnews, and their ratings are still low. Do you think these arrogant liberals will every realize that it is their bias that does not sell?
28 posted on 08/07/2004 11:20:36 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Betaille
With one correction, what he said makes perfect sense:

"He conceded that journalists are often perceived as liberal because they tend to challenge conservatism."

Or perhaps:

"He conceded that journalists are often perceived as liberal because they tend to challenge the conservative part of the establishment."

29 posted on 08/07/2004 11:42:05 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Pay attention not only to what is being reported but HOW its being reported kerry is no friend to FOX and i would venture to say FOX is no friend to Kerry

Even before the President of News Corp was announced as backing Kerry, I have noticed a distinct slant towards Kerry reporting on Fox. Say what you like but they are changing and it isn't for the better.

30 posted on 08/07/2004 1:58:36 PM PDT by armymarinemom (Ultimate Flip Flop->I support the Troops but not their mission)
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To: Sprite518
Remember when CNN said they were losing because their screen format was boring, and not flashy like FOXNEWS? They changed their screen format to be just like Foxnews, and their ratings are still low.
If you think CNN's media pandering is lame, read these silly promos for a couple of Air Amerika's talk shows:

After a decade of tearing up the airwaves, this Brooklyn native comes home to New York as one of the most powerful voices in talk radio. Listed in Talkers Magazine Heavy 100, Randi Rhodes brings her own brand of impeccably researched and infectiously humorous talk to Air America Radio.

"Infectiously humorous talk?" This must be what they mean by bio terrorism.

Or how about this gem?

Time to wake up, brush your teeth and stick it to The Man. Set your alarm to Morning Sedition and keep us on as you make your way to that charmingly decorated cubicle where you help rich people increase the disparity between their bank account and yours. We’ll give you the day’s headlines and political news, without that annoying, smiley, blow-dried double-talk the other media use to avoid offending anyone who might jeopardize their access to Sweet Lady Ad Revenues. Join radio veteran Mark Riley and comedian Marc Maron for morning news served up the way you like it: In context, with a healthy dollop of absurdity on top and a side order of subversion.

Totally childish and stupid to boot. Most left wingers I know tell me that they haven't changed their politics since they were 18 years old. It definitely shows as demonstrated by the above samples of truly sophomoric promo copy. Air Amerika is programming designed for a UC Berkeley college radio station in the late 1960s. Most of this radio "talent" will probably drift back to NPR (National Partisan Radio) or at least until PBS and its progeny goes (gasp!) commercial by 2006.

31 posted on 08/07/2004 6:01:56 PM PDT by Che Chihuahua (Dealing with a liberal/ socialist/neo-communist is like dealing with a demented child on crack.)
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To: Reagan Man

I prefer Laura Ingraham.


32 posted on 08/07/2004 6:03:39 PM PDT by Che Chihuahua (Dealing with a liberal/ socialist/neo-communist is like dealing with a demented child on crack.)
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To: Luke21
As for Fox, they are pretty worthless these days. Just commie lite.
I was disappointed that Limbaugh never got a show, as was rumored, on Fox from his pal Roger Ailes. It's painful to watch Alan Colmes on Fox Channel and to listen to him on Fox radio.
33 posted on 08/07/2004 6:08:10 PM PDT by Che Chihuahua (Dealing with a liberal/ socialist/neo-communist is like dealing with a demented child on crack.)
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To: joesnuffy
The Fox these gas bags need to take 'a shot' at is the one S.O.B. ....SOB (South of the Border)
Amen, brother. My relatives in Mexico despise the SOB and his $1000 bed sheets. Just another corrupt Latin American demi-despot running the show down there.
34 posted on 08/07/2004 6:11:48 PM PDT by Che Chihuahua (Dealing with a liberal/ socialist/neo-communist is like dealing with a demented child on crack.)
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To: truthandlife
"This statement means that CNN cannot find a way to beat FOX News. Desperation from the LEFT is pretty to see."

Just give CNN a few months...FOX is forgetting who made them number one...The same marketing guy that promoted the "NEW" Coke-A-Cola is now working for FOX!
35 posted on 08/07/2004 6:18:03 PM PDT by Hotdog
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To: fight_truth_decay
Talk radio (the underground news source) was the only way the average Joe or Jane could have a voice. When our government and all our elected officials (for the people by the people) start listening, then we wouldn't rely on talk radio, the net and related sources to express our viewpoints and concerns.
Talk radio is truth in packaging. You know what you are getting. With CNN and the other alphabet "news" (sic) organizations, you get gross misrepresentation as to their "journalistic integrity."
36 posted on 08/07/2004 6:19:57 PM PDT by Che Chihuahua (Dealing with a liberal/ socialist/neo-communist is like dealing with a demented child on crack.)
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To: Tamsey
"...his news operation "does not give a corporate slant to its journalism. We don't tell them how to report."

How quickly he forgot that just a year ago CNN admitted their corporation deliberately required their staff to suppress the negative information about Saddam and human rights abuses in Iraq.


They also have corporate employees called "Assignment Editors" that shape the news agenda and the "angle" that they will use in their news packages.
37 posted on 08/07/2004 6:25:28 PM PDT by Che Chihuahua (Dealing with a liberal/ socialist/neo-communist is like dealing with a demented child on crack.)
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To: Bob
He conceded that journalists are often perceived as liberal because they tend to challenge the establishment.

Challenge the establishment?? Only if the 'establishment' has a Republican president. When there's a democRAT in, they lick his boots.


I would have described it as a different part of the anatomy being licked (or kissed as it were).
38 posted on 08/07/2004 6:34:05 PM PDT by Che Chihuahua (Dealing with a liberal/ socialist/neo-communist is like dealing with a demented child on crack.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Since when has reporting what the enemy is doing being BIASED ?

Well, so far, both Kasich and O'Reilly have denounced the Swift Boats Veterans for Truth ad as outrageous and call for the Bush campaign to denounce it. It doesn't seem to matter to them whether the claims in the ad are true or not. Those two, and possibly others, seem to be toeing the kerry line pretty well.

39 posted on 08/07/2004 6:49:09 PM PDT by Bob
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; Timesink; Gracey; Alamo-Girl; RottiBiz; bamabaseballmom; FoxGirl; Mr. Bob; ...
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40 posted on 08/08/2004 11:18:32 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the ping!


41 posted on 08/09/2004 7:35:29 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

How out of touch with America can Parsons possibly be?? He is just ridiculous! He seems like he gets most of his talking points from Ted Turner...keep it down Parsons!


42 posted on 08/11/2004 12:53:30 PM PDT by Politics4Fun
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To: Politics4Fun

"crazy people exchanging views"

Coming from a station that regularly features Paul Begala and James Carvile?

Mr. Parsons may not have both oars in the water.


43 posted on 08/11/2004 1:00:57 PM PDT by IamConservative (A man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

>>How out of touch with America can Parsons possibly be?? He is just ridiculous! He seems like he gets most of his talking points from Ted Turner...keep it down Parsons!

Right on Alamogirl-you took the words right out of my mouth


44 posted on 08/11/2004 4:06:55 PM PDT by sunshyne
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To: IamConservative

"Mr. Parsons may not have both oars in the water."

Of course he doesn't, he is simply talking out of his ass. The guy is an elitist extremist, who is simply jealous of the success FNC has had.


45 posted on 08/11/2004 4:43:36 PM PDT by hardknocks
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To: Politics4Fun

Indeed, how out of touch can he be?


46 posted on 08/11/2004 8:21:03 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: sunshyne; Politics4Fun

Thank you, sunshyne - but, er, those were Politics4Fun's words.


47 posted on 08/11/2004 8:27:33 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Che Chihuahua
He is delusional.
48 posted on 08/11/2004 8:33:23 PM PDT by handy (Leahy you, you Clymer!)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Thanks for the credit, but I was just stating the obvious. Parsons is a joke, and he is no way is helping his network with statements as outlandish as these. Thank gosh for FNC..at least we have a real news source to turn to.


49 posted on 08/12/2004 9:41:54 AM PDT by Politics4Fun
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To: Politics4Fun

my apologies Politics4Fun ;) But you're right all- there is no question in my mind why Fox is #1 while CNN gets pounded. All they do is bad mouth America to the rest of the world and then complain here at home that the heartland is full of crazies and weak-minded nutsos.


50 posted on 08/12/2004 4:54:35 PM PDT by sunshyne
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