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Bush invites foreigners to monitor U.S. election
WorldNetDaily ^ | 8/7/04 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 08/07/2004 1:36:44 PM PDT by wagglebee

WASHINGTON – When 13 Democratic members of the U.S. Congress asked United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan to send election monitors to the U.S. this fall, the move outraged many Republicans and other proponents of national sovereignty.

When those same 13 Democratic members of Congress were turned down by Annan, they took their request to Secretary of State Colin Powell – again to the shock of many Republicans and those who warn about foreign entanglements.

Yesterday, those 13 Democratic House members got their surprising answer from the State Department – the administration will indeed invite foreign election monitors to observe the U.S. elections in November.

Assistant Secretary of State Paul V. Kelly, who handles legislative affairs for the department, affirmed the invitation this week in a letter to the 13 House members. They had requested U.N. monitors for this year's elections in an effort to avoid the charges of voting irregularities that plagued the 2000 election, the closest in history.

Now, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, the largest regional organization in the world with 55 participating nations, will monitor the U.S. election on Nov. 2. Members include Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Portugal, Russia, Spain and the United States.

"OSCE members, including the United States, agreed in 1990 in Copenhagen to allow fellow members to observe elections in one another's countries," Kelly wrote. "Consistent with this commitment, the United States has already invited the OSCE's Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) to observe the November 2, 2004, presidential elections."

The congressional initiative was spearheaded by Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson, D-Texas. She asked Powell to make an official request that the U.N. provide observers for the Nov. 2 elections in the United States to "ensure free and fair elections."

Previously, the 13 Democratic congressmen, led by Johnson, sent a letter July 8 to the U.N. general secretary requesting the presence of U.N. representatives in every county of the country during the voting process and any vote recount afterwards.

The U.N. immediately responded that such a request could not be accepted unless it came from the U.S. government. Otherwise, a spokesman said, it could be considered"intervention in a country's sovereignty."

"As legislators, we should guarantee the American people that our country will not experience another nightmare like the 2000 presidential elections," the members of Congress said in their letter to Annan.

In her letter to Powell, Johnson expressed grave concerns regarding electoral system reforms that were not undertaken after the 2000 election.

Recalling the contentious Florida vote count in 2000, the lawmakers urged the U.N. to "ensure free and fair elections in America."

"As lawmakers, we must assure the people of America that our nation will not experience the nightmare of the 2000 presidential election," Johnson said in the letter. "This is the first step in making sure that history does not repeat itself."

Meanwhile, Rep. Corrine Brown, a Florida Democrat, announced that the Democratic Institutions and Human Rights Office of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe has confirmed that it will be present in the United States – specifically, in Florida – on Election Day.

However, state election authorities in Florida have already announced that such observers are not to be allowed access to the voting process and, in any case, they would have to remain at a distance of more than 50 feet from the polls.

Besides Johnson, the congressional signers to the original U.N. letters included Julia Carson of Indiana, Jerrold Nadler, Edolphus Towns, Joseph Crowley and Carolyn B. Maloney, all of New York, Raul Grijalva of Arizona, Corrine Brown of Florida, Elijah E. Cummings of Maryland, Danny K. Davis of Illinois, and Michael M. Honda and Barbara Lee of California.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionmonitor; nwo; observers; odihr; osce; un
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Hell, I'd rather have Jimmy Carter monitor the election than a bunch of Kofi Annan's leftist idiots.
1 posted on 08/07/2004 1:36:45 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

I think Jimmy Carter is one of Kofi Annan's leftist idiots.


2 posted on 08/07/2004 1:39:30 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: wagglebee

Someone please tell me this is NOT true!


3 posted on 08/07/2004 1:40:21 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: TaxPayer2000

Yeah, I guess you're right.


4 posted on 08/07/2004 1:41:25 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: wagglebee

It won't be the UN. FOX news said that there would be some UN personell but the group is part of a European watchdog group.

Actually it's kind of interesting that he's doing it at all. It tells me that the president is expecting some dirty tricks and is heading the democrats off.


5 posted on 08/07/2004 1:41:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (John kerry the Jim Jones candidate.)
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To: wagglebee

You know since it's always the rats which are cheating this could be a politically smart move on the administrations part.

I would love to see some of the rats operatives busted by the UN for voter fraud.


6 posted on 08/07/2004 1:42:45 PM PDT by federal
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To: wagglebee

It is called pre-emption. Now Kerry can only agree...he cant take a stand without saying that he does not think that the election should be monitored which we all know he wont and cant.

Good move by the Prez....


7 posted on 08/07/2004 1:45:01 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Kerry renames the US The People's Republic of America)
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To: varina davis

It's the democrats that do the election fraud thing...this is maybe a smart move; less room for them to shriek down the line. Also, maybe even a little less possibility for 'Rat shenanigans.


8 posted on 08/07/2004 1:45:44 PM PDT by ErnBatavia ("Dork"; a 60's term for a 60's kinda guy: JFK)
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To: cripplecreek

What if the RATS pay off the UN watchdogs? TerAYsa has a bottomless purse, and God knows the Euroweenies want Kerry to win.


9 posted on 08/07/2004 1:48:03 PM PDT by hershey
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To: wagglebee
The U.N. immediately responded that such a request could not be accepted unless it came from the U.S. government. Otherwise, a spokesman said, it could be considered"intervention in a country's sovereignty."

And being asked makes it non-intervention?

The UN members lick their chops at ANY opportunity to get a hand in the pants of the US' business.

10 posted on 08/07/2004 1:48:28 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: federal

Bloggers, other non-establishment media, and concerned citizens should subject the individual backgrounds of these "impartial" Euros to a comprehensive investigation. Business ties to Castro, Saddam, or Soros should be special objects of attention, as should membership in fifth column dhimmi-groups ("Doctors without Borders" etc.) and ties to the enemy media (Reuters, Al-Jazeerah, the British National Union of Journalists, etc.).


11 posted on 08/07/2004 1:49:54 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy ("Paz en nuestro tiempo, la paz de los muertos")
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To: federal
We should have asked for foreign observers years ago.

Especially in Chicago where even dead Democrats vote over and over.

They should be allowed to stand over the folks counting ballots and do random cross checks to ensure no dead people vote, only eligible people vote, and only once in one balloting place.

I wonder how many votes the Rats would lose if EVERYTHING were fair and proper?

As corrupted as many elections have become worlwide, it would be a good idea to have disinterested parties supervising every election.

12 posted on 08/07/2004 1:50:06 PM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel eonomy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Well said -- and, unfortunately, true.


13 posted on 08/07/2004 1:51:04 PM PDT by SheRebel
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To: wagglebee
Recalling the contentious Florida vote count in 2000, the lawmakers urged the U.N. to "ensure free and fair elections in America."

How dangerously ironic that these people slam the idea of the US courts getting involved, questioning their purpose in doing so in '00 but fully welcome foreigners with open arms to do the same.

Politics in this country of ours is more ominous than one can perceive.

14 posted on 08/07/2004 1:54:36 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: wagglebee

Hillary's rather frequent visits to Europe are paying off.


15 posted on 08/07/2004 1:55:26 PM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: Mogger
Don't forget making sure only citizens can vote.
16 posted on 08/07/2004 1:55:47 PM PDT by thoughtomator (I question the timing of this post)
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To: cripplecreek

I don't care how the media spins this, this is the UN. Go to the UN website and click on human rights, then search OCSE and ODIHR. These organizations are just special elections departments of the UN.


17 posted on 08/07/2004 1:57:47 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: texastoo

Then you better not vote I guess.


18 posted on 08/07/2004 1:59:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (John kerry the Jim Jones candidate.)
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To: thoughtomator
Don't forget making sure only citizens can vote.Add LIVING and you may have it.
19 posted on 08/07/2004 1:59:39 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: wagglebee
Bush invites foreigners to monitor U.S. election

Would one be totally out of line in thinking that Dubya responding to this with a "Cram it where the sun don't shine for our elections are none of your business" would be more appropriate?

20 posted on 08/07/2004 1:59:58 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: wagglebee

This is a joke, right? Please tell me this is a sick joke, please!!!

Is there any way to substantiate this?


21 posted on 08/07/2004 2:01:31 PM PDT by Spottys Spurs
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To: wagglebee
I don't care if I see some foreign dirt bag "monitoring" the election when I go to vote he'll get an earful of very salty serviceman's french with a full description of his lack of legitimate parental and human species pedigree.
22 posted on 08/07/2004 2:02:13 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Spottys Spurs

I've heard that its been on Fox News already.


23 posted on 08/07/2004 2:02:27 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: wagglebee

Monitor or observe?


24 posted on 08/07/2004 2:02:48 PM PDT by kenth
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To: wagglebee

You are right. This is the specialty departments of the UN. Go to the UN website and click on human rights then search for OSCE and OIRHD and see for yourself. Bush has called for the UN to monitor our elections in a round about way.

Instead of Bush calling for more Americans to help at the polling booths, he call on foreigners. This really sucks.


25 posted on 08/07/2004 2:07:57 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: wagglebee

What will the 'Rats do when GWB's election victory is certified and approved (although reluctantly) by none other than their beloved, precious UN? "But they, um, er, stole, the election because Cheney and his Haliburton cronies bribed UN officials, yeah, that's it ... "


26 posted on 08/07/2004 2:08:47 PM PDT by omniscient
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To: wagglebee

I'm having a real problem dealing with this! The dam UN has no place in our elections.. foreign governments have no place in our elections! Dam it, this is NOT some third world country. It's The United States of America. We should send those Democrats to some other place than our Congress. It's a discrace and so is the response from our State Department, if it's true.


27 posted on 08/07/2004 2:10:45 PM PDT by Spottys Spurs
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To: MikeinIraq

Pre-emption my foot. It is called bowing to the Democrats. This is the UN.

How many times have you read that Germany, France, ect. hate Americans especiallly conservatives? Now, they are going to monitor our elections. Tell me where this is a smart move.


28 posted on 08/07/2004 2:12:43 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: wagglebee

As first I was shocked and outraged…but this could get interesting and blow up big on the Dem… as there the one that are famous for trying to rig election and buying voted… and where are these monitor most likely to be but in the major urban centers the Dem strong hold…remember ever major "irregularity" in 2000 was in Dem controlled district…..

The Dem were showboating calling for UN monitor they never really expected to get it… calling the big BS bluff could end up being the Democrats worst nightmare....

It would all depend it tha monitor are half way honest or just a bunch of left wing internationalist a—holes


29 posted on 08/07/2004 2:13:51 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: wagglebee

Ugh!...:(


30 posted on 08/07/2004 2:14:04 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: varina davis
" However, state election authorities in Florida have already announced that such observers are not to be allowed access to the voting process and, in any case, they would have to remain at a distance of more than 50 feet from the polls. "
Merely a formality, my dear. Nothing to see, move along...
31 posted on 08/07/2004 2:14:54 PM PDT by Spacetrucker
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To: wagglebee

Why is Bush doing this? He's not going to get ONE vote from this.


32 posted on 08/07/2004 2:15:52 PM PDT by The Libertarian Dude (Why, if we can just pass a few more laws, we can ALL be criminals! - J.R. "Bob" Dobbs)
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To: wagglebee

Will they monitor the elections in Chicago, St Louis and other Democratic bastions of election fraud? No. They will select whatever battleground the Democrats tell them to.

Overarching theme: everyone one in the world, especially Europe, wants us reduced to a second-class or even third-class power. Most of the world is Socialist (complete with the usual Socialist illnesses of massive pollution and repression) and would love nothing more than to extinguish the center of capitalism in the world. So, the rest of the world will be more than glad to slam the Republicans and Bush.


33 posted on 08/07/2004 2:16:55 PM PDT by whitedog57
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To: The Libertarian Dude

I agree. He'll lose Conservative & Republican votes IMHO!


34 posted on 08/07/2004 2:17:32 PM PDT by Spottys Spurs
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To: Mogger
"...it would be a good idea to have disinterested parties supervising every election.
These would be the Euro-weenies, after all...
35 posted on 08/07/2004 2:18:26 PM PDT by Spacetrucker
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To: cripplecreek

I probably won't vote.

Good luck on your vote counting especially if your polling place is observed by the French.


36 posted on 08/07/2004 2:18:48 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: The Libertarian Dude; All
First of all, this isn't from the U.N.

They are not here to "audit" the election as the Dems want.

They did the same thing in 2002

This is part of a 1990 agreement so it isn't something that has been pulled out of thin air.

37 posted on 08/07/2004 2:19:15 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: wagglebee
"Yesterday, those 13 Democratic House members got their surprising answer from the State Department – the administration will indeed invite foreign election monitors to observe the U.S. elections in November...Now, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, the largest regional organization in the world with 55 participating nations, will monitor the U.S. election on Nov. 2. Members include Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Portugal, Russia, Spain and the United States."

What? ...to desensitize us to a trend toward internal propaganda control of our nation by the UN? So it's true that members of our State Department are anti-American suckies to the Europeans and want another Democrat Administration?

You know what's going to happen with this, folks. The one-world Euro-despots are going to soak up every bit of anti-American, pro-Democrat, pro-terrorist propaganda they can get out of election disputes and broadcast it to the world. We need to do some things to correct it. For one, we can show the Euros that they are not welcome to "monitor" our elections or any other US government function.

And most importantly, the masses do not understand endless intellectualizing and specificity. They must be shown general, international contempt in sound bites and ridicule write-ups. And Democrats should be called what they are--traitors against their own nation.

Our President needs to throw out the trash!
38 posted on 08/07/2004 2:20:39 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: texastoo

And exactly what can they do? It is not as if they are going to sway any vote to one or the other...

It is a great strategic move. It takes away a Democrat position from them and effectively nullifies any complaints that can be raised by them (again). Tell me you dont see that!!!!


39 posted on 08/07/2004 2:21:16 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Kerry renames the US The People's Republic of America)
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To: tophat9000; cardinal4

And from where will the Useless Nations draw their monitors? Let's see: there's always Cuba. We wouldn't have to pay much for their travel. How about Iran? They've had plenty of successful elections. Gabon? Dr. AlHaji Omar Bongo is just about finished with his 25 year term as president; I'm sure he was duly elected. The Sudan? Yet another shining example of trustworthy moslems. I sure hope W knows what he's doing on this.


40 posted on 08/07/2004 2:21:22 PM PDT by Ax (Moslems are the measles of mankind. With apologies to Alfred Einstein.)
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To: wagglebee
Sounds like an asinine idea. How exactly is this supposed to work? Will there be monitors in every precinct nationwide?
41 posted on 08/07/2004 2:22:38 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: Mogger
I wonder how many votes the Rats would lose if EVERYTHING were fair and proper?

So true.

In many overwhelmingly Democratic inner city precincts, there are no Republican watchdogs (poll captains) to monitor the voting booths.

Many cities, such as PHiladelphia, are essentially controlled by the Democratic Party in conjunction with union leaders.

Can't remember where I read it, but supposedly there was a 110 percent voter participation (voted Dem, of course) in some precincts in Philly in 2000.

42 posted on 08/07/2004 2:22:46 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: wagglebee

On the other hand, is this one of Joe's anti-Republican moments? Hmmm. I'll take it with a huge grain of salt and check other news on it to see if there's a "gotcha" somewhere in this.


43 posted on 08/07/2004 2:23:05 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Ax
And from where will the Useless Nations draw their monitors?

It is NOT the U.N.

44 posted on 08/07/2004 2:23:32 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: wagglebee

This a joke right? Whichever party is responsible for inviting the UN into our electoral process is a party that will never get my vote for any office.


45 posted on 08/07/2004 2:24:28 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: COEXERJ145

Sorry, COEX, but anytime my president stoops to the level of inviting foreigners to watch us do the election dance, I have to protest.

If foreigners want to learn how it works, they can hire people from our country to go THERE and show 'em.


46 posted on 08/07/2004 2:26:51 PM PDT by The Libertarian Dude (Why, if we can just pass a few more laws, we can ALL be criminals! - J.R. "Bob" Dobbs)
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To: The Libertarian Dude

Just one thing. It was the "State Department" that invited them although I don't know if they had much of a choice. The 1990 agreement allows any party of observe any other. And unless Bush ordered it himself, then most likely was a decision by State, not the President himself.


47 posted on 08/07/2004 2:30:15 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: Mogger
I wonder how many votes the Rats would lose if EVERYTHING were fair and proper?

They should monitor and make sure all the polls close at the time they are supposed to close, and that only citizens are allowed to vote in our elections and only one vote. And that they are properly registered to vote and all that. It's kind of sad that our elections really have become more filled with fraud than countries like Mexico's are --- where the IFE card must be presented and non-citizens are never allowed to vote.

48 posted on 08/07/2004 2:31:45 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: COEXERJ145

Well, I might have to alter my reaction, but if any of these foreigners are from American-hating regions, I'd tell them to shove off.


49 posted on 08/07/2004 2:31:57 PM PDT by The Libertarian Dude (Why, if we can just pass a few more laws, we can ALL be criminals! - J.R. "Bob" Dobbs)
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To: wagglebee

The first time, the Europeans. The second time the U.N. Thank you so much President Bush for opening this door.

The election process of the United States of America is an internal affair. Now we let the likes of the French in to evaluate us.

I couldn't be more disappointed in a president 'supposed to be' a conservative.


50 posted on 08/07/2004 2:34:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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