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Ad says Kerry lied; record says otherwise [Response Needed1]
The Cleveland Plain Dealer ^ | August 8, 2004 | Dick Feagler

Posted on 08/08/2004 8:41:12 AM PDT by Diago

 

Ad says Kerry lied; record says otherwise

Sunday, August 08, 2004

It's a dirty ad about a dirty war.

It's an old grudge held by old men. And now it's playing a part in a dirty campaign.

A so-called independent group bought ads slamming John Kerry's war record in Vietnam. The ads scorn Kerry's medals, claim he was lying about his service, and allege he got an early ride home because of a couple of bogus Purple Hearts.

As of this writing, the White House has only half-heartedly distanced itself from these ads, which their creators hope to run on TV in all of the swing states, including Ohio.

The one Republican stalwart who objects to the ads is John McCain, a certified war hero, who is the chairman of George W. Bush's campaign in Arizona.

McCain called the ads "dishonest and dishonorable."

"I think the Bush campaign should specifically condemn the ad," he said.

But, of course, the Bush campaign won't. In an election this tight, sleaze rules.

So, in this past week on the campaign trail, the cable news bites weren't about the war we are presently fighting. They were about a war we fought decades ago.

A war, by the way, that will never leave us in the lifetimes of anybody who had anything to do with it.

John Kerry volunteered to fight in that war. The volunteer part is a big thing.

I knew people who swallowed soap or jabbed their armpits with a whisk broom or said they were bed-wetters or gay to stay out of it.

But Kerry enlisted. And by the time he was through, he had earned three Purple Hearts and a couple of medals for bravery.

After his swift-boat service - after about four months - he was flown back to the states. And then he went on an anti-war crusade. He objected to the war and the lives being lost there. And he was right.

After almost 60,000 of our soldiers died, we pulled out of Vietnam and the commies pushed in. And how have we been endangered by that outcome? Not at all.

When you read those names on that black wall in Washington, you're reading the names of gallant Americans who died because of faulty leadership. Robert McNamara, the former secretary of defense, has devoted the rest of his life to admitting that. He's a walking mea culpa.

When Kerry got home, he testified to Congress. One of the things he said was that some Americans were committing atrocities against the Vietnamese. His critics use that to claim he maligned our army.

I was a correspondent in Vietnam for just a bit over a month in 1967. I remember a time when I hitched a jeep ride north of Da Nang. A TV crew went along. And so did a two-rocker sergeant. He wasn't happy.

"I've got to go along with all the TV crews," he said, "because last month a soldier held up a necklace made of ears. Damn TV. One of these days Walter Cronkite is gonna get us all killed."

War is awful. Maybe it's not so awful if you're in the Air National Guard, hot-shotting it over the Gulf of Mexico. And maybe it's not so awful if you're the vice president, having successfully avoided it.

Kerry didn't avoid it. He ran toward it. Those were days when few ran toward it. Kerry served and was wounded and got some medals.

Nobody in the Bush entourage can make that statement.

So what their surrogates are trying to do in a dirty way is tear down John Kerry's service.

He risked his life in a war he didn't believe in, and when he came home he made his views public. That doesn't make him a traitor. That makes him a kind of superpatriot.

Now we have a new war.

When I wrote this, two Marines had died fighting for . . . what? An independent Iraq? Oil? Regime change? A base for Israel in the Middle East? Nobody is sure.

The old war and the old men with their old grudges still haunt us. But it's a new day with a new war. Babies born in the Vietnam era are old enough to fight now.

I'd rather entrust them to Kerry. Been there, done that.

Contact Dick Feagler at:

dfeagler@plaind.com, 216-999-5757


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
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Contact Dick Feagler at:

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1 posted on 08/08/2004 8:41:20 AM PDT by Diago
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To: Diago

Easier link:

letters@plaind.com


2 posted on 08/08/2004 8:42:53 AM PDT by gilliam
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To: Diago

Nobody takes Feagler seriously.
He's been fired from more gigs than you can count.


3 posted on 08/08/2004 8:43:11 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Zealous Troll Hunter - and you know who you are - you've been warned.)
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To: Diago

I wouldn't waste the time to write to him.


4 posted on 08/08/2004 8:46:57 AM PDT by squirt (POLITICIANS & DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED, FOR THE SAME REASON)
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To: Diago
record says otherwise

What record?

5 posted on 08/08/2004 8:47:16 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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To: Diago

bttt


6 posted on 08/08/2004 8:47:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Diago

Certified war hero Jeremiah Denton said that Kerry's remarks and behavior after leaving Viet Nam gave aid and comfort to our Vietnamese and Soviet enemies.

So much for appeals to authority.


7 posted on 08/08/2004 8:47:42 AM PDT by Busywhiskers (Non entia multiplicandia sunt prater necessetatum. William Occam)
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To: Diago

I like your profile with the unborn baby and the rest of the story.


8 posted on 08/08/2004 8:48:14 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Liberals are like catfish ( all mouth and no brains )(bottom feeders))
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To: Diago

Was this written by the DNC?


9 posted on 08/08/2004 8:49:18 AM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 ("proud to be a Reagan Republican")
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To: Diago
It's a dirty ad about a dirty war. It's an old grudge held by old men. And now it's playing a part in a dirty campaign.

Expect to hear this at least 1000 times more before the election.

10 posted on 08/08/2004 8:49:58 AM PDT by independentmind
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To: squirt

No, don't write him, write the paper and get a letter to the editor in.


11 posted on 08/08/2004 8:50:07 AM PDT by gilliam
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To: Diago

The OpEd's title is misleading; the author mentions no specific accusations made by the ad, and offers no refutations. Just like the rest of the media: they're avoiding the ad's actual claims like the plague.


12 posted on 08/08/2004 8:51:05 AM PDT by xlib
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To: Diago
Kerry didn't avoid it. He ran toward it.

Boston Globe, 6/16/2003: ........"I didn't really want to get involved in the war," Kerry said in a little-noticed contribution to a book of Vietnam reminiscences published in 1986. "When I signed up for the swift boats, they had very little to do with the war. They were engaged in coastal patrolling and that's what I thought I was going to be doing."......... But two weeks after he arrived in Vietnam, the swift boat mission changed -- and Kerry went from having one of the safest assignments in the escalating conflict to one of the most dangerous.

Boston Globe, 6/16/2003: ......... He requested and was granted a transfer out of Vietnam six months before his combat tour was slated to end on the grounds that he had earned three Purple Hearts. None of his wounds was disabling; he said one cost him two days of service and the other two did not lead to any absence. .........The bottom line is that Kerry could have remained but he chose to seek an early transfer.

13 posted on 08/08/2004 8:51:20 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I do find it funny that the Dems are shouting out, "Look Sen. McCain disagrees with this ad". Does anyone here think that if McCain agreed with the ad that the Dems would do anything other than belittle his opinion as that of a crazed Conservative?

I don't.


14 posted on 08/08/2004 8:51:54 AM PDT by TheSuaveOne
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To: Diago
A so-called independent group bought ads slamming John Kerry's war record in Vietnam.
Since, to my knowledge, no "records" have been released what is this guy talking about?
Does he mean his actions in Vietnam? Too little emphasis on such an important word.
15 posted on 08/08/2004 8:52:02 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Diago

Dick Feagler......

You are speaking of something about which you have no real knowledge. The Kerry Vietnam record remains hidden.

Demand the release of his official military records and then let's talk about it.


16 posted on 08/08/2004 8:52:50 AM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: Diago

peuuuuuuuuu I smell a democrat..


17 posted on 08/08/2004 8:53:18 AM PDT by joan_30
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To: xlib
The OpEd's title is misleading; the author mentions no specific accusations made by the ad, and offers no refutations. Just like the rest of the media: they're avoiding the ad's actual claims like the plague.

The Swift Boat Veterans aren't avoiding the facts:

The Swifties Fire Back

18 posted on 08/08/2004 8:53:34 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: gilliam

Send the very response written by the Swift Vets lawyers on the thread, "Swift Vets Fire Back"

Doug Clifton is already in hot water - he printed the list of Ohioans who have a concealed carry permit, and two days later, one them was shot to death.


19 posted on 08/08/2004 8:54:53 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Zealous Troll Hunter - and you know who you are - you've been warned.)
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To: Diago
why waste your time. dick is a school kid. you can tell by his dribbles. dick likes to take hits from the bong between his scribbles. the plain dealer will endorse GW and dick will continue to hit the bong and quibble. see dick smoke, smoke dick smoke.
20 posted on 08/08/2004 8:55:59 AM PDT by rineaux (hardcore)
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