Posted on 08/08/2004 7:58:45 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
Here's something more on the Boston Globe story claiming that its reporter Kranish was not connected to the Kerry/Edwards official campaign bio:
BOTH THE OLD KRANISH COVER AND THE NEW KERRY/EDWARDS COVER HAVE THE EXACT SAME ISBN NUMBER ACCORDING TO THE PUBLISHER, AMAZON, AND BARNES AND NOBLE. If these sites are accurate, the books are connected as revisions!
ISBN's are unique identification numbers given to every book that comes out for identification purposes. No two different books have the same ISBN. Only books that are identical do. If the numbers are accurate this should mean that, just as the New York Daily News published, the new Kerry/Edwards book is a revised substitute for the Kranish one. In other words, Drudge and all the others who originally reported on Kranish's tie to the project were right.
Compare them and you will see they are one and the same:
ISBN FOR KRANISH COVER ACCORDING TO BARNES AND NOBLE: 1586483145
ISBN FOR KRANISH COVER ACCORDING TO PUBLISHER SITE CACHE: 1-58648-314-5
ISBN FOR REVISED KERRY EDWARDS COVER ACCORDING TO PUBLISHER SITE RIGHT NOW: 1-58648-314-5
ISBN FOR REVISED KERRY EDWARDS COVER ACCORDING TO AMAZON: 1586483145
Kranish's book has disappeared from the Amazon.com site it appears.
SOMETHING IS ODD HERE THAT THE ISBN IS THE SAME!
The only thing I can think of is that perhaps the publisher tried to make this just a replacement to that book since they cancelled that in lieu of having an official campaign book. But, is that even possible? Beats me.
"Correction:
"Anticipating President-elect Nixon's illegal directions, I ordered MYSELF into Cambodia even before Nixon took office!"
LOL
Anyone hear Kerry this weekend pandering to the Native American group? (see related thread)
Another day, another promise. He doesn't build on the previous day's message, has no overarching plans, he just says whatever will get him applause from the folks in front of him.
Even with journalists trying to cover for him as with this book, I bet we start to see him slipping in the polls within a week or two, and they won't get much better.
If all he does is look at the website, how credible can he be?
Again, the photo and actual title of the book were different in that cache, so Drudge was trying to say he was writing "Our Plan for America," but there was never any evidence for that.
Hey, I like Drudge for trying to help the Swift Vets.
I work at a library. I know what an ISBN number is....and I do find something INCREDIBLY FISHY about this having the same ISBN.
But still, it doesn't change the fact that the initial report was based on (probably) the incorrect cover photos tied to the book pages.
Otherwise, Drudge would have had the correct book title in his story.
That said, some serious questions need to be asked about the ISBN issue.
Different books have diff ISBN's, indicating something is afoot here.
My two years of Spanish are fading, but I think it means "Kerry: the alternative to Bush"
The title I mean...the rest I don't want to touch. :)
Yes, advance copies of "Kerry/Edwards," not "Our Plan for America," the official campaign book that was out since last Monday, yet Drudge said Kranish was somehow dropped late last week from a book that was already finished. :)
Still, the ISBN issue is serious and somebody needs to call the publisher and Globe to see what the heck is up.
I am going to talk to my supervisor at the library tomorrow to see if there is any possible way the ISBN's could have just been transferred from the Kerry/Edwards book (since it is not going to be published) to the Our Plan book. Since it was not going to be published, perhaps the ISBN just "moved up" and it does not necessarily indicate a connection.
If it DOES indicate a connection, I will print a retraction here tomorrow.
I have honor, and if I am found to be wrong, I apologize.
Thnaks.
See rwfromkansas' posts on this thread. Looks like just more typo screw-ups again, with Kranish not caught in an ethics conflict.
But I will stay tuned...
IMO, even doing the official bio on Kerry, which I believe Kranish did, violates the Society of Professional Journalists Code of Ethics.
You should not write a bio like that on someone you are covering for a newspaper. They are two different mediums and, IMO, it makes Kranish violate the aspect of the ethics which require you not to have even a "perceived" conflict or interest, as well as the one that disallows any sort of secondary employment.
I am e-mailing Hugh in a few minutes to try to alert him to this and see what he can dig up. He responded to my messages quick last Friday.
What did you e-mail him about Friday?
I am checking tomorrow to try to learn more about ISBN's from my library supervisor.
If there is no possible way for the ISBN to be transferred over, I will retract my comments and apologize.
ISBN's should NOT be the same for diff books. This shows that somehow the books are connected. It is my theory (since everyone else points to just a massive level of mess-ups on the web), that since the book he was writing the forward for was cancelled to make room for the official Kerry book, that the ISBN simply was attached to the new book. In this case, it would not imply the books are the same.
HOWEVER, if this is not possible and they must assign a new ISBN to the new book instead of just using the cancelled book's one.....well.....then we have something very interesting here.
And it is something that will show Drudge likely to have been right and the Globe's statement on Friday was a lie.
We will see.
I missed that. Kranish did the "official bio" on Kerry? Title?
It may be, but that's part of the greater activity at play here. Somewhere somebody involved with Kerry's camp appears to have had the first title with the Kranish intro pulled then substituted the new one. That helps explain the "public" reports like the one in the NY daily news. The motive behind it all remains unknown though, and I think it is everybody's suspicion right now that they were trying to cut the tie with Kranish so he could help in other ways. Whatever the case may be, the Boston Globe was wholly in the wrong to run the story they did today.
www.isbn.org has a fairly extensive FAQ on how they are assigned. It looks like a very complex process to get one that involves the publishing house. It looks as if it would be very difficult to switch the ISBN's over on a moments notice as rapidly as Kranish's name fell from that site.
BTW, it would also show that the incorrect cover photos were a result of Amazon.com and the publisher likely trying to play catch-up by removing the cancelled book "Kerry/Edwards" and putting on the info for the official campaign book.
It is just that they first got to the accompanying cover photo and had to re-write the text.
This would point to the mistake not just being a mistake, but being done in the midst of removing the original book entry due to its cancellation.
It still would not support Drudge's contention that he was writing the forward to an official book, however. But, we would know why two book sites had the photo and book description not match for awhile.
Very interesting.
It may be that Drudge was right all along....it just didn't look that way (and didn't make sense since the official campaign book was already out). But, I will try to do some checking to see what was up.
You are certainly correct there.
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