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1 posted on 08/09/2004 6:56:23 AM PDT by Elkiejg
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To: Elkiejg

If kerry never brought up his service record then i would say these commericals are out of line but he will not drop it, so he has to expect this kind of stuff. Kerry this isnt Massachusetts anymore


2 posted on 08/09/2004 6:59:04 AM PDT by barryallen
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To: Elkiejg

Boortz is great, as always.
This story won't go away. Do I dare start to hope that the media will actually start looking at the FACTS of Kerry's abbreviated tour of duty?


3 posted on 08/09/2004 6:59:05 AM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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"My name is Steve Gardner. I served in 1966 and 1967 on my first tour of duty in Vietnam on Swift boats, and I did my second tour in '68 and '69, involved with John Kerry in the last 2 1/2 months of my tour. The John Kerry that I know is not the John Kerry that everybody else is portraying. I served alongside him and behind him, five feet away from him in a gun tub, and watched as he made indecisive moves with our boat, put our boats in jeopardy, put our crews in jeopardy... if a man like that can't handle that 6-man crew boat, how can you expect him to be our Commander-in-Chief?"
-- Steven Gardner

The above quote was from a press conference given at the National Press Club in Washington on May 4, 2004. You may view Steven’s comments at the following web site. Just scroll down to Steven’s picture and click on it.

http://swift1.he.net/~swiftvet/index.php?topic=SwiftVetQuotes

Searching through that web site, you will find 250 men who served on Swift boats, including the entire chain of command above Lt. Kerry, agree with Steven Gardner that Kerry is not fit to be Commander-in-Chief. That compares to the 13 crew members who support his candidacy.


4 posted on 08/09/2004 6:59:29 AM PDT by LOC1
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To: Elkiejg

In 1971 when Kerry made public statements that he committed atrocities, was there an investigation? If so, what were the findings and have they been made public?


6 posted on 08/09/2004 7:02:57 AM PDT by Toespi
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---"Now ... here's a way that John Kerry can divert attention from his four months in Vietnam. He can cite some other accomplishments from his life that he believes would impress the voters. He can tell us of the great and wonderful things he did as the Lt. Governor of Massachusetts. He can regale us with some war stories from his days as a prosecutor. Hell, he might even tell us how he managed to seduce two incredibly rich women into his (marital) bed. I'm sure that there are a lot of young men just out of the service would love to learn that little stunt. Then ... for a real stretch, Kerry can tell us all of the great and wonderful things he accomplished in his 20 year Senate history. He's campaigning on the theme of a "Stronger America." Perhaps he can explain how all of his votes against funding for intelligence gathering and against the very weapons systems we're using today to kill terrorists in the Middle East made America stronger.

"In the meantime ... someone owes Dr. Louis Letson an apology. We'll be placing calls to the attorneys who sent those threatening letters every single day until we find someone to talk to. Stay tuned."----


All right. Nuke 'em, Neal.

-Dan
7 posted on 08/09/2004 7:02:59 AM PDT by Flux Capacitor (FLUSH THE JOHNS IN '04.)
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To: Elkiejg
Let's just say if you had searched Amazon.com or PublicAffairsBooks looking for the Kerry-Edwards book last week you would have seen a reference to an introduction written by Michael Kranish. Later, after the Kranish article about Elliot's supposed retraction appeared in the Boston Globe, the web pages for the campaign book suddenly dropped the references to Kranish and his introduction.

Very interesting. Do we need any more evidence of leftist bias in the media?

8 posted on 08/09/2004 7:04:51 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Elkiejg
Hey! I was in Cambodia too!

9 posted on 08/09/2004 7:09:45 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Elkiejg

Problem with this is the Rats and media --I know, same thing -- can spin any Republican questioning of Kerry's service into "attacks". I think we need to hear more Bush supporters on TV

1) pointing out that they would love to be able to ignore an examination of Kerry's VN experience but that he is the one who keeps bringing it up.
2) presenting Kerry's Senate record and asking why Kerry is ashamed to run on that.


10 posted on 08/09/2004 7:13:06 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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Related story:

Kerry/Kranish Book Controversy - Check the ISBN's

11 posted on 08/09/2004 7:15:33 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Elkiejg
John Kerry may indeed have been a manipulative schemer who's primary purpose in volunteering for duty in Vietnam was to build a war record .........

He was a manipulative schemer but Kerry never volunteered to get anywhere near Vietnam combat.

Boston Globe, 6/16/2003: ........"I didn't really want to get involved in the war," Kerry said in a little-noticed contribution to a book of Vietnam reminiscences published in 1986. "When I signed up for the swift boats, they had very little to do with the war. They were engaged in coastal patrolling and that's what I thought I was going to be doing."......... But two weeks after he arrived in Vietnam, the swift boat mission changed -- and Kerry went from having one of the safest assignments in the escalating conflict to one of the most dangerous.

Boston Globe, 6/16/2003: ......... He requested and was granted a transfer out of Vietnam six months before his combat tour was slated to end on the grounds that he had earned three Purple Hearts. None of his wounds was disabling; he said one cost him two days of service and the other two did not lead to any absence. .........The bottom line is that Kerry could have remained but he chose to seek an early transfer.

14 posted on 08/09/2004 7:28:03 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Elkiejg

good point!

truth is you cant live in the "fish bowl" that is politics & put up "curtains" to selectively hide certain info from the public.


16 posted on 08/09/2004 7:30:33 AM PDT by NOTTATOM
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To: Elkiejg; dead; AppyPappy; JohnHuang2; EggsAckley

I don't know Neal Boortz.

But that is a GREAT title.

Like some FReeper's tag line says: "I went to Vietnam, yadda yadda yadda, I want to be President." That's the campaign.

Dan


17 posted on 08/09/2004 7:30:50 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Elkiejg
Phil Dragoo makes this phoney baloney Cambodia adventure really easy to understand even for the pro Kerry Trolls on FR.


20 posted on 08/09/2004 8:26:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has the Franchuran Dork candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri ever not lied to Americans!")
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"Hey, Hey, J eFing K... How many medals did you win today!"

Just felt like chanting....


22 posted on 08/09/2004 8:35:39 AM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Elkiejg

The media is like sharks, if Kerry starts to slide in the polls, they will smell blood in the water and follw up on this. However, as long as Kerry is perceived to be the front runner or have a viable chance of winning the election, they will keep their distance from it.

My biggest suprise is how the conservative media are pooh-poohing the story. Honestly, Britt Hume and Bill Kristol on Sunday glossed over it on FOX on Sunday AM, you would have thought they were working for the DNC.


23 posted on 08/09/2004 8:39:43 AM PDT by Stag (Gosh I'm grouchy on Monday mornings)
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Dims talking point is: "But they weren't on SKerry's boat!" They say this with a bit of hysteria. They don't even try to refute any other point.


24 posted on 08/09/2004 9:05:27 AM PDT by tiki
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