Skip to comments.Giant wave could threaten US
Posted on 08/09/2004 8:34:11 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
A collapsing volcano in the Atlantic could unleash a giant wave of water that would swamp the Caribbean and much of the eastern seaboard of the United States, a scientist has claimed.
Dr Simon Day, of the Benfield Greig Hazard Research Centre at University College London, UK, believes one flank of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the island of La Palma, in the Canaries archipelago, is unstable and could plunge into the ocean.
If I was living in Miami or New York and I heard that the Cumbre Vieja was erupting, I would keep a very close eye on the news.
Swiss researchers who have modelled the landslide say half a trillion tonnes of rock falling into the water all at once would create a wave 650 metres high (2,130 feet) that would spread out and travel across the Atlantic at high speed.
The wall of water would weaken as it crossed the ocean, but would still be 40-50 metres (130-160 feet) high by the time it hit land. The surge would create havoc in North America as much as 20 kilometres (12 miles) inland.
Dr Day told BBC Science's Horizon programme: "This event would be so huge that it would affect not only the people on the island but people way over on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean - people who've never heard of La Palma."
His latest work on the subject has been published in the Journal of Volcanology and Geothermal Research.
On the back of this work, the Geological Society of London is to write to the UK science minister, Lord Sainsbury, to make him aware of the dangers posed by so-called mega-tsunami in the Atlantic.
The society hopes he will take the issue as seriously as he has the threat from asteroid strikes.
Scientists have known of the destructive power of tsunami - huge tidal waves - for many centuries. As recently as 1998, over 2,000 people were killed by a large wave hitting the coast of Papua New Guinea.
This was caused by an offshore earthquake. But researchers believe far bigger phenomena can be created by giant landslides.
The largest wave in recorded history, witnessed in Alaska in 1958, was caused by the collapse of a towering cliff at Letuya Bay. The resulting wave was higher than any skyscraper on Earth and gouged out soil and trees to a height of 500 metres (1,640) feet) above sea level.
Geological studies have found evidence of giant landslides elsewhere in the world such as Hawaii, the Cape Verde Islands and Réunion in the Indian Ocean.
Dr Day has identified dozens of volcanic vents in the Cumbre Vieja volcano that have been formed by successive eruptions over the past 100,000 years.
He thinks water trapped between dykes of impermeable rock could create pressures that eventually lead to the western flank of the mountain falling away during some future eruption.
Hermann Fritz, of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, which has equipment to model waves created by landslides, said: "If the Cumbre Vieja were to collapse as one single block, it would lead to a giant mega-tsunami with an initial wave height of 650 metres.
"It would have a wavelength of 30 to 40 kilometres (18 to 25 miles) travelling westwards across the Atlantic at speeds up to 720 km/h (450 mph) towards America."
But researchers caution that such a catastrophe may not occur for many decades.
"There could be five more summit eruptions of the Cumbre Vieja before the western flank collapses," said Professor Bill McGuire, of the Benfield Greig Hazard Research Centre.
"There could be 10 or there could be 20 - we simply don't know. But put it this way: if I was living in Miami or New York and I heard that the Cumbre Vieja was erupting, I would keep a very close eye on the news."
Please do not post from the Independent. I do not know how valid all this research is, I see every reason to set up an early warning system as recommended by Professor Bill McGuire in the new report.
October 10 = August 10
This is obviously George Bush's fault.
We are dooomed!
John Kerry has a secret plan that will save us.
We're all gonna die.....well someday anyway......*grin
By rough estimate, NY is about twice as far from the Canaries as London. Would London be destroyed in time to give NY lots of warning?
Behold He comes riding on a wave shinning like the sun, at the trumpet call.
Yes it is all the fault of those evil republicans!!
When's the movie?
I imagine that terrorists are already doing theoretical work on seeing if the flank slide could be artificially triggered by a large explosion. That's the first thing that came to mind.
Wouldn't the wave go in all directions??
Sounds like what happens whenever Michael Moore sits down.
Yes and the Bahamas would take the brunt and spare south florida.
"Wouldn't the wave go in all directions?"
They should call it the Kerry Wave.
Most likely the resultant wave would be so massive, it would literally be unable to propagate itself in adjacent waters. As a consequence a soliton would be created. It would head off across the ocean, with undiminished height and mass, to totally devastate the shoreline opposite.
Most likely the collapse of the Antarctic as the last glaciation of the current Ice Age came to an end, produced many such solitons, or maybe even one very large soliton in a catastrophic collapse.
This is why there are no major works of man older than that time anywhere that we know of.
Yes and no. A smaller version of the tsunami would reach the UK first. The wave front, as I read it, gets greatly dissipated by the European Coast, the English Channel, the Thames Estuary, etc., so would not be as severe. Also I think the disintigrated flank of the volcano faces the East Coast of the US, so we would bear the full brunt of the mega-tsunami.
Hey I heard about this last year on TLC's show about tsunamis. So I get to say it first "We're all doomed!!!"
"Dr Simon Day, of the Benfield Greig Hazard Research Centre at University College London, UK, BELIEVES one flank of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the island of La Palma, in the Canaries archipelago, is UNSTABLE and COULD plunge into the ocean."
The weasel words, believes and could are not something I get all in an uproar over.
Start waxin' those surfboards, dudes!;)
650 metres (or meters) equals about 1900 feet high, which is a wave a third of mile high hitting the East Coast. The Empire State Building is only 1/4 of a mile high. It would travel 20 kilometers inland, or 12 miles from the ocean.
Women and minorities to be hardest hit.
How long would it take to reach the east coast?
"...say half a trillion tonnes of rock falling into the water all at once... "; is that like a one with nine zeroes after it or is it a million times a billion? In the US a billion is a one with nine zeroes after it(a thousand million). In the UK a billion is a million million. In the US a trillion would be a onnnne with 12 zeroes behind it or a million million or one UK billion. Does that mean that a UK trillion would be a million times a million times a million or a one with eighteen zeroes behind it or would it be that a UK billion is the same as a UK trillion when expressed in US terminology?
We need to make sure Michael Moron doesn't belly flop into the ocean.
La Palma volcano
It'd be a damn shame if that half a trillion tons had the help of the first Islamic nuclear weapon to get it started.
onnnne = one
I question the timing of this.
That was the first thing that came to my mind as well. Second thing was to get crackin on the screenplay!!!!
Does anyone really live on Hierro?
he will "reach out" to the tsunami, and will end this arrogant "go it alone" bush tsunami policy.
I saw this on the show "Blue Planet" on the Discovery Channel, it was pretty interesting.
I hope I'm at home when it happens. If I'm at work I'll be dead, but if I'm at home I should have easy beach access :)
LOL, I do to leaving in Wilmington, could ruin my whole day.
My niece just moved into a new house down there!
Whoa, dude! You don't wanna wipe out on those waves, brahhh! Still, that would be, like, totally awesome man!!
Leaving should be living but maybe leaving in the outcome head to daughters in Roxboro.
If you got enough observers, the same should happen here.
No nukes! Save the world for conventional weapons!
You forgot the elderly.
"After travelling across 4,000 miles of the Atlantic for about nine hours the tsunami would hit the Caribbean islands and the east coasts of Canada and the US with devastating effect. It would stretch for many miles and sweep into the estuaries and harbours for up to 20 miles inland, destroying everything in its path."
Obviously this is Bush's October suprise... Drown the Blue States
Why not use conventional weapons (a few 'Big Bertha' JDAMS might be the ticket) in the same fashion that several small avalanches are triggered in snow country to prevent one massive avalanche.
What I fantasize about is putting a nuclear weapon inside a hurricane. Would it disrupt it, or would the added heat/energy power the cyclone (these things are heat engines, and the rising air in the eye is what causes the low pressure.
Oh, yeah. Thanks for the assist. I also forgot the chilllllllldrun.
Not much time. We need to keep a close eye on it.