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Kerry adds to insult for veterans
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | August 10, 2004 | Jim Wooten

Posted on 08/10/2004 4:24:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

If John Kerry is elected president, he will define Vietnam.

The Vietnam he frames for history is one where atrocities were commonplace daily occurrences carried out with the knowledge and consent of the officer corps.

There's a lesson here for Iraq. The hundreds of thousands of men and women who serve there, in a war the left has despised from the start, may very well be identified by the abuses that occurred at Abu Ghraib.

Kerry's election as president of the United States would be the third humiliation of those who chose to serve in Vietnam.

The first was the betrayal of Vietnamese who trusted our word, as graphically symbolized in images of desperate loyalists clinging to the skids of departing helicopters as Saigon fell in 1975.

The second was the election of a president who deliberately evaded military service in time of war. It was, at the time, a shock requiring deep introspective analysis of previously unquestioned core beliefs. The irrefutable rules of life taught us as children -- duty, honor, country -- were suddenly negotiable. The nation conducted a referendum in 1992 and declared evasion acceptable.

The third humiliation would be to allow Kerry to frame the nation's Vietnam perspective.

No doubt atrocities occurred. They do in all wars. Even with disciplined armies. But they are not commonplace, nor are they sanctioned. They are rare breakdowns by out-of-control individuals and, as with My Lai, punished. More than 2.7 million men served in Vietnam. The few do not define them.

Robert Powell of Carrollton, a retired Army colonel with 27 years of service, was in a position to know. During three tours, he was constantly on the front lines with three stints as a rifle company commander.

"In my three years over there, we never committed an atrocity, and I never saw one," says Powell, who served tours in 1966, 1968 and 1971. Had even a single atrocity been committed in the brigades in which he served, Powell thinks he would have heard -- and no doubt he would. Soldiers talk.

During those three tours, Powell was wounded a total of seven times and received three Purple Hearts. While on night patrol during his first tour, he fell into a punji pit. On the second, his unit was pinned down and he was shot five times over an 11-hour period before relief could reach them. On the last tour, he suffered shrapnel wounds from a thrown grenade.

Kerry's charges so incensed Powell that he has written 7,000 op-eds in opposition to newspapers around the country. "The stamp cost is about to kill us," he says of himself and his wife, who assists him with the mailings.

The common theme of veterans opposed to Kerry is expressed by Larry Bailey, a retired Navy SEAL and president of Vietnam Vets for the Truth (Web site: kerrylied.com), one of the groups organizing a Sept. 12 rally in Washington. "More than any other person, John Kerry is responsible for the false image of Vietnam veterans as dysfunctional misfits and crazed killers, and we intend to change that image," Bailey has said.

The most effective of veterans' efforts to date is an ad produced by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (www.swiftvets.com) that is drawn from the testimony of those who served with Kerry. Kerry supporters have attempted to blame President Bush or his partisans for the effort.

This really isn't about Bush -- and the Bush campaign would be ill-advised to become involved in any way whatsoever.

It's about Kerry and, in a real sense, it's about the anti-war left that surfaces again in mobilizing opposition to the war in Iraq. Only 3 percent of the delegates who nominated Kerry agree that war in Iraq was worth the loss of life and cost to this country; 93 percent thought it was not.

Powell finds it ironic that the party that nominated Kerry is the party that grew out of the 1972 anti-war campaign of George McGovern. "Now the main thing they have going for them is Kerry's service in Vietnam," he says.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; kerry; vietnam; vietnamvets
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1 posted on 08/10/2004 4:24:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Now the main thing they have going for them is Kerry's service in Vietnam,"

The main thing the terrorists have going for them is Powell in the State Dept.
Terrorists still invited by the State Dept into America in 2004

2 posted on 08/10/2004 4:27:58 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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To: Diogenesis; All
'60s activists emerge again from left field*** Jack Hoffman is wound up. At 64, he can hardly contain himself as he rails against the war in Iraq and frets over the presidential race. He hasn't felt this much fire in the belly, he said, since he shouted antiwar cries during the Vietnam War.

"I went to sleep for 32 years," said Hoffman, a Framingham resident and the younger brother of 1960s icon Abbie Hoffman.

If Jack Hoffman has been politically drowsy since he last participated in protests in the early 1970s, he could now be called something of a political insomniac: He is handing out leaflets, speaking to disciples of the left, participating in demonstrations -- anything to bash President Bush and what Hoffman describes as a wrong-headed war.

Hoffman is not the only aging Vietnam-era activist from the region agitating for Bush's ouster in November. For these veterans of political action, the consciousness of the late 1960s and early 1970s is seeing something of a revival: As they look to propel John Kerry to the White House, some say they haven't felt as driven since those heady days.***

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***The campaign source said that the book was not considered a "serious" problem for the campaign, because, "the media wouldn't have the nerve to come at us with this kind of stuff," says the source.***Source

3 posted on 08/10/2004 4:32:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Vietnam I choose to remember was fought by men like Rick Rescorla. He's pictured above helping people out of the WTC. Most of his coworkers survived. He went back in to save more -- and didn't come out in time.

4 posted on 08/10/2004 4:33:28 AM PDT by risk
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To: risk; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Bump!


5 posted on 08/10/2004 4:34:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I'll be thanking God when the last of those smelly stupid hippies takes their eternal reward and gets banished to Hell for their actions here on Earth. Back-stabbing boneheads.


6 posted on 08/10/2004 4:34:16 AM PDT by gunnygail ("John, the people are complaining." "Screw em, let them eat cake!")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Wow. Just out of curiosity, is this Jim Wooten the same Jim Wooten I used to see on ABC News a long time ago?


7 posted on 08/10/2004 4:38:32 AM PDT by mewzilla
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8 posted on 08/10/2004 4:39:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mewzilla

I'm not sure. I know he's been a part of the AJC editorial page for some time.


9 posted on 08/10/2004 4:41:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Bump.


10 posted on 08/10/2004 4:42:34 AM PDT by dano1
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Enough to make a real American puke.


11 posted on 08/10/2004 4:43:57 AM PDT by gunnygail (John F Kerry, page 205, Whos Who in the biggest GEEKs in America.)
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To: gunnygail
"I'll be thanking God when the last of those smelly stupid hippies takes their eternal reward and gets banished to Hell for their actions here on Earth. Back-stabbing boneheads."


Looks as though the "fence" sitters, those commonly called "Independents" are the ones being tested this go round. Another period of sifting the "wheat" from the chaff.
12 posted on 08/10/2004 4:45:35 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well, ABC still has their Jim Wooten on their bios, so I guess this must be a different one.


13 posted on 08/10/2004 4:45:43 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"More than any other person, John Kerry is responsible for the false image of Vietnam veterans as dysfunctional misfits and crazed killers...This really isn't about Bush. It's about Kerry"
14 posted on 08/10/2004 4:46:58 AM PDT by dano1
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To: dano1; Just mythoughts; All
Kerry's World: Father Knows Best***According to the conventional telling of John Kerry's biography, largely told by Kerry himself, his foreign policy views were forged in the Mekong Delta. During his disillusioning four-month combat stint on a Navy Swift Boat, the limits of U.S. power were revealed to him. As Newsweek argued in a cover story last month, "Kerry's policy views, as well as his politics, were profoundly shaped by the war." But, for all the neatness this narrative provides, it overlooks an entire chapter in Kerry's intellectual history: his childhood. In fact, Kerry's foreign policy worldview, characterized by a steadfast belief in international institutions and a suspicion of U.S. hard power, had fallen into place long before he ever enlisted. As Kerry's biographer, the historian Douglas Brinkley, told me, "So much of his foreign policy worldview comes straight from Richard Kerry." ***
15 posted on 08/10/2004 4:52:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: dano1

Wasnt just a false image but the one many so called Americans decided to push on Vets
and treat them as the false image were true..bringing about anger and bitterness

It took both a Kerry and a willing American public to pull the wool over their own eyes..

imo


16 posted on 08/10/2004 4:52:27 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The Vietnam he frames for history is one where atrocities were commonplace daily occurrences carried out with the knowledge and consent of the officer corps.

Sounds like the basis for a new radio show for Keillor,

"Lake Blowhardspawn."

Where atrocities were commonplace daily occurrences
and all boo-boos earned purple hearts
and a man could define himself any way he wanted


17 posted on 08/10/2004 4:54:20 AM PDT by syriacus (Let's give a jeer, and 1 jeer more, for the ersatz hero of Swift 94. He IS a flipping man.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"As Kerry's biographer, the historian Douglas Brinkley, told me, "So much of his foreign policy worldview comes straight from Richard Kerry." ***"


I think he learned alot from hanging around the Kennedys. One can only imagine what bits of "INTEL" he came across.

LBJ set a great example for JFKerry to follow.

JFKerry just like the Clintons have never been required to account for their words and deeds.


18 posted on 08/10/2004 5:03:43 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"More than any other person, John Kerry is responsible for the false image of Vietnam veterans as dysfunctional misfits and crazed killers, and we intend to change that image," Bailey has said.

This is the truth of the matter. When I was much younger I was introduced to Kerry by a couple of my friends in the Army who despised him over beers in the NCO club.

19 posted on 08/10/2004 5:07:31 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This Jim Wooten is a fine newspaper man surrounded by mostly leftist bozos in Atlanta.


20 posted on 08/10/2004 5:15:46 AM PDT by Muscadine
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