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COMMAND CONFIDENCE Kerry staff: "Unfit not a problem, media is committed to seeing us win")
THE SPECTATOR ^ | 8/18/04 | WASHINGTON PROWLER

Posted on 08/10/2004 3:12:23 AM PDT by Liz

According to a Kerry campaign source, senior campaign advisers tasked two Washington-based campaign staffers to vet the recently published Unfit for Command.

"The purpose was to compare what that book had with what we had on file from Senator Kerry," says the campaign source, who said that the research project developed more than 75 instances where Kerry's recollections, previous remarks, or writings conflicted with the book's reporting.

"We took some of the most glaring examples, like the Christmas in Cambodia story, and presented them to senior staff, and we assume that those things were put in front of Senator Kerry," says the source. "We haven't heard a word about it. All we were told is that it was being taken care of."

The campaign source said that the book was not considered a "serious" problem for the campaign, because, "the media wouldn't have the nerve to come at us with this kind of stuff," says the source.

"The senior staff believes the media is committed to seeing us win this thing, and that the convention inoculated us from these kinds of stories. The senior guys really think we don't have a problem here."


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"The senior staff believes the media is committed to seeing us win this thing, and that the convention inoculated us from these kinds of stories."

Duh.

1 posted on 08/10/2004 3:12:23 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz; onyx; Mo1

Who's the Freeper with the biggest PING list? This needs a LOT of attention.


2 posted on 08/10/2004 3:13:53 AM PDT by Fracas
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To: Liz
"The senior staff believes the media is committed to seeing us win this thing, and that the convention inoculated us from these kinds of stories. The senior guys really think we don't have a problem here."

This comment has got to be a joke. Tell me it's a joke.

Well...is it?

3 posted on 08/10/2004 3:16:28 AM PDT by zarf
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To: Liz
The same media that breathlessly reported how Bush's commanding officer in Alabama didn't remember him but failed to mention he is also suffering from Alzheimer's is now working overtime to smear the reputations of a large group of Vietnam War vets in order to save the reputation of one.



 
 
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4 posted on 08/10/2004 3:17:10 AM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: zarf

The only thing surprising is to see this verbalized for attribution. The 'Rats know full well the MSM will help Kerry bury this mess, if possible. This is the critical test, IMHO. If the MSM can ignore this stinkin' pile in the middle of the Living Room carpet, I will never trust them again.


5 posted on 08/10/2004 3:19:05 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (We live in a wonderful country where any child can grow up to be the next Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Fracas; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 2111USMC; 2Jedismom; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; A Ruckus of Dogs; ...
BUMP FOR: COMMAND CONFIDENCE Kerry staff:
"Unfit not a problem, media is committed to seeing us win")
6 posted on 08/10/2004 3:23:49 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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To: Liz
The senior staff believes the media is committed to seeing us win this thing, and that the convention inoculated us from these kinds of stories.

Yes, the major media is committed to a Democrat in the White House, but the are committed to their own ratings first. If they think the public is interested in this story, they will turn on SKerry in a New York Minute. The convention only inoculated against insomnia.

7 posted on 08/10/2004 3:23:59 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: zarf; ALOHA RONNIE; Squantos
I say it's true. There are so many people who don't question the media at all, and they clearly want to elect Kerry. Besides, some of the information (probably just a wee bit) from conservative vets has been exaggerated. For example, Lt. Thomas Wright claimed to be Kerry's senior officer and was among those who asked him to leave. And yet the recent swiftboats vets open letter doesn't include his name among the list of Kerry's "commanders." I think we should keep our story above board, accurate, and carefully-researched.

We know that Kerry came home and opposed the war. We know that he fraternized with people who were supported by Jane Fonda. We know that he said things in public that helped the Viet Cong win the war.

That is enough for us. Stick to the facts we know. Keep bringing them up again and again.

America can't afford to have another Black April 1975.


8 posted on 08/10/2004 3:24:41 AM PDT by risk (Rememer Rick Rescoral, who finally died for his country on 9/11/2001.)
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To: Diogenesis

Thanks for the bump. We're on a mission.


9 posted on 08/10/2004 3:25:27 AM PDT by Fracas
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To: jimtorr

I wish I had your confidence. The mainstream media would ignore a terror attack on U.S. soil if they thought it might put more votes in the Bush column. Well, okay...it might get mention on their ticker....


10 posted on 08/10/2004 3:26:36 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Liz

That has the ring of truth, because it's the right answer. The Kerry campaign should ignore it, and have Kerry go about his business. Meanwhile, they send out the lawyers, Lanny Davis, Joe Conason, Susan Estrich, and the rest of the snakes. We'll know they're getting worried when Carville and Sidney Blumenthal come off the bench.

11 posted on 08/10/2004 3:29:55 AM PDT by Nick Danger (Flip Kerry the Flop)
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To: bondjamesbond

So far they are ingnoring it. And the ones who aren't are spinning it Kerry's way. IMHO they are digging their own grave deeper though. The more they do this stuff, the more people become exposed to what they are, a DNC propaganda machine. Eventually there will be a tipping point and Americans won't put up with being lied to anymore. Well that's my hope anyway.


12 posted on 08/10/2004 3:31:00 AM PDT by Tom_Busch (Vote Bush/Cheney in 2004)
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To: bondjamesbond

I guess we'll see how effective the alternative media has become.


13 posted on 08/10/2004 3:31:24 AM PDT by zarf
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To: Tom_Busch
The senior staff believes the media is committed to seeing us win this thing,

I don't EVER want to hear any Lib try to tell me from this point forward that the media is biased toward the RIGHT. That the media is controlled by Conservatives. They just confirmed the opposite here.

14 posted on 08/10/2004 3:34:08 AM PDT by peteram
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To: Liz
"We took some of the most glaring examples, like the Christmas in Cambodia story, and presented them to senior staff, and we assume that those things were put in front of Senator Kerry," says the source. "We haven't heard a word about it. All we were told is that it was being taken care of."

And now, ladies and gentlemen, may I direct your attention to this lovely story, about how the DNC has apparently put together "Brown Book" collections of personal information on each of the Swift Boat Vets themselves, private citizens, mind you, to provide the news media in an attempt to blackmail/embarass them enough to pull the ad. These Brown Books that are being provided to certain reporters "contain damaging military records, personal credit histories, medical histories, psychiatric histories, divorce records, you name it,” says one source from the story. Private information about private citizens, not elected officials, dug up by investigators and provided to reporters for political reasons! Yeah, it's being taken care of, all right. With "secret police" style tactics. Woe to John Q. Public if the trial lawyer and Mr. "I Don't Fall Down" get into the highest office in the land!

15 posted on 08/10/2004 3:35:49 AM PDT by shezza (and we thought Hitlery's FBI files on politicians was bad...)
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To: Diogenesis

WHAT!


16 posted on 08/10/2004 3:37:15 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Diogenesis

This had better be a problem!! Thanks for the ping, Dio! I can't believe that the Rats have actually come out in the open and admitted the press is fully behind sKerry.

I can't wait to see their 'hero' after W turns him inside out in the debates.

On a side note: I have spent the last four hours studying the Rats platform. (Don't do that after eating a meal.) After many dry heaves, I felt like really trying to be ill, and went to the Communist Party USA's web site. That helped....Now that I'm done cleaning my rifles to clear my thoughts, I've discovered something quite interesting: The CPUSA's list of "struggles" is a direct match for the DNC's platform. In other words, the Communist Party USA and the Rats are indeed one and the same - hand in glove.

My tagline is correct.


17 posted on 08/10/2004 3:37:43 AM PDT by datura (The Difference Between a Democrat and a Communist Is????)
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To: datura
"The CPUSA's list of "struggles" is a direct match for the DNC's platform.
In other words, the Communist Party USA and the Rats are indeed one and the same - hand in glove. "

THAT deserves a table of some sort, and wide dissemination.

18 posted on 08/10/2004 3:46:37 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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To: Liz
media is commited to seeing us win

More like, the media is hellbent on making Bush lose.

19 posted on 08/10/2004 3:47:42 AM PDT by wai-ming
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To: Fracas; mhking; NYer; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; Conspiracy Guy; Mudboy Slim; martin_fierro; ...
Who's the Freeper with the biggest PING list? This needs a LOT of attention.
21 posted on 08/10/2004 3:50:26 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Diogenesis

Hey Dio - I'll post the list of struggles, but the DNC platform is nearly impossible to break down into tabular format - it's 41 pages long in .pdf format.....It requires one to actually read the damned POS at the viewer's risk to their mental health. I'm sure that there is someone out here that has a different version broken down into nice "soundbites", but it isn't me.

I'll FReepmail you the links and the list of struggles, as well as post them here in a few minutes.


22 posted on 08/10/2004 3:52:34 AM PDT by datura (The Difference Between a Democrat and a Communist Is????)
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To: Diago

bump


23 posted on 08/10/2004 3:55:13 AM PDT by Diago
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To: Fracas
"Who's the Freeper with the biggest PING list? This needs a LOT of attention."

It does indeed need to be widely pinged. The chutzpah is breathtaking.

24 posted on 08/10/2004 3:56:05 AM PDT by Clive
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To: zarf; Fracas

Kerry ia beginning to look more and more like CANDIDATE Clinton.....Clinton was the Energizer Bunny.....kept going and going and going .....right into the WH.

GWB has got to stop himself from looking like a "candidate desperate for votes". He's the president of the USA and he must consider Kerry as the pretender to the office.


25 posted on 08/10/2004 3:57:05 AM PDT by Liz
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To: zarf
This is no joke. The so called "Mainstream Media" are die hard liberals and they control 90% of the information and propaganda put out to the public. It is almost a Star Chamber.
What is left is under a vicious attack. The Democrats under the heading of Congress,John Conyers and 4 others sent FOX and veiled threat and accused them of portraying George Bush in to favorable of a light.
Out nation is under assault by the Democrats and the Terrorist and I believe the Democrats are more overall detrimental to our well being because the control the Judicial System through Liberal Lawyers.
America is headed toward a "Dictatorship" if we are not careful and it is closer than most people think.
The upcoming election is strictly about the Supreme Court and everything else is secondary over the long haul!
26 posted on 08/10/2004 4:01:56 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: gunnedah

America is at War with lawyers from Egypt, Syria, Iran and from alQaida-Democrats in America


27 posted on 08/10/2004 4:03:45 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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To: Liz

You must recognize that most of us have socks that are older than the "pups" who made those statements. You can be assured that they are worried....they have already started their lawyers and attack dogs....but this time they are in for a few surprises....Firstly, they are not playing with a bunch of scared folks...these are honorable men who when attacked will bite back...hard and often. Secondly, thanks to the internet they are well funded and the more the DNC attack...the more funds will roll in. I urge everyone to make another donation at www.swiftvets.com and then let them "BRING IT ON".


28 posted on 08/10/2004 4:03:53 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver (www.RealHeroesVoices.com....see the real John Kerry)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Ought to be posted as a separate thread.


29 posted on 08/10/2004 4:04:59 AM PDT by Liz
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To: bondjamesbond

You mean you trust them now? I gave up trusting them in the 70's


30 posted on 08/10/2004 4:05:02 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: Liz

"Kerry ia beginning to look more and more like CANDIDATE Clinton.....Clinton was the Energizer Bunny.....kept going and going and going .....right into the WH".

kerry looks like a deer, caught in head lights. He looks like a candidate ready to implode!!!

LLS


31 posted on 08/10/2004 4:05:04 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Yeah, what CHENEY said"!)
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To: Liz

These media traitors would be the first ones imprisoned by the kind of totalitarians they want in office. I'd love to see the looks on the their faces as they got sent to concentration camps by those they helped elect.


32 posted on 08/10/2004 4:06:10 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: anniegetyourgun; SunkenCiv

The mainstream media has already ignored an attack against Americans and others departing from Kennedy airport in October, 1999. EgyptAir flight 990 was downed by an al quaeda pilot. No one remembers.....


33 posted on 08/10/2004 4:06:14 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Nick Danger

Here is another quote that the mainstream press ignored recently by Sen. Scarry.

``It's great, can we do it now?'' he told reporters when asked about the address. ``Members of the Fourth Estate, I have called you here to tell you that your reign is over,'' Kerry told reporters, using the historical term for the press.

link: http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aw7A0iyaNKiY&refer=us


34 posted on 08/10/2004 4:09:42 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry and The Taxocrates must be defeated, Flush the 2 John's)
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To: Liz

If this is true, and the media really wants Kerry in the WH, then Rush has surely been wrong about Hitlery wanting to be president in 2008.


35 posted on 08/10/2004 4:10:20 AM PDT by jokemoke
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To: ValerieUSA
If Berger-Burglar, Gorelick, Clarke, Clinton and the ULTRACORRUPT Democrats had been completely HONEST
to the American public about the Islamic-crashed airplanes, like TWA800, etc. etc. etc. in the 90's
then Americans WOULD have been on alert on 911
and would have had the opportunity to prevent the 911 Atrocities.


36 posted on 08/10/2004 4:10:45 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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To: Diogenesis
OK - here goes the neighborhood!!! The following tripe is directly taken from the CPUSAs site - you've been warned.

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37 posted on 08/10/2004 4:11:43 AM PDT by datura (The Difference Between a Democrat and a Communist Is????)
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To: Liz
I can't beleive this shit!

Last night I heard on Fox that the Kerry Campaign was contacted to explain his 'Christmas in Cambodia' statement and they never responded! The duffus says he was shot at by Cambodians and South Vietnamese!

38 posted on 08/10/2004 4:12:17 AM PDT by johnny7 (“John Edwards is a beautiful man!” -Ter-A-zah Heinz-Kerry)
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To: Liz

Earth to the senior staff: Unfortunately for you, the lamestream no longer has a lock on the media any more.


39 posted on 08/10/2004 4:13:43 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Tom_Busch
Eventually there will be a tipping point and Americans won't put up with being lied to anymore.

Maybe, but the older I get the less confident in that I become. It seems to me that most people just want to be told what they want to hear.

40 posted on 08/10/2004 4:15:05 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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BTTT


41 posted on 08/10/2004 4:40:50 AM PDT by SW6906
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To: jimtorr
but the are committed to their own ratings first. If they think the public is interested in this story,

I think it is less about interested and more about aware. The public would certainly be interested to learn that one of the two major Presidential candidates is a serial liar. The media will bury this story, and try to keep the public unaware of it. If the public becomes aware of it, they will have to report it or they will lose more credibility.

The key is getting the information out there. If the public becomes aware of many of the negatives, the media will have to sink Kerry because it will either be Kerry or the MSM that sinks.

This is a battle that will be won or lost at the water cooler and the backyard party. Sally forth!

42 posted on 08/10/2004 4:41:24 AM PDT by blanknoone (Kerry is Bin Laden's Man, Bush is Mine.)
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To: risk
"There are so many people who don't question the media at all, and they clearly want to elect Kerry."

Let us not forget Hillary, who plans on being President in '08.

The media is aware of this along with sKerry.

I really don't think we have too much to worry about.

43 posted on 08/10/2004 4:43:58 AM PDT by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: Tom_Busch
"Eventually there will be a tipping point and Americans won't put up with being lied to anymore...."

Unfortunately I don't share your optimism.

Most American's don't have a clue as to when they are being lied to. The number of people willing to search for the truth, past the media sound bites, gets smaller every day.

Any person of reason would never take Kerry seriously, with regard to the WOT, if they studied his past record in the Senate. The fact is most don't know and really don't care find out.

Sounds pessimistic I know, but after talking with many people it has not ceased to amaze me how uninformed they really are.
44 posted on 08/10/2004 4:53:33 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: Liz; Laura Earl; RikaStrom; xsmommy; NYC GOP Chick; Gabz; Argh; Slip18; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; ...
Who's the Freeper with the biggest PING list? This needs a LOT of attention.

So if you're saying size matters, take a look at this.

Laura Earl;rikastrom;xsmommy;nyc gop chick;gabz;argh;slip18;whyisatexasgirlinpa;meekonegop; lazamataz; texan5;dixiesass;camle;vrwcmember;cholerajoe;hobbes1;csm;tioga;jen;nicknamedbob;netmilsmom;previouslyA-lurker;GVgirl ;King prout;neets; darksheare; scott0347; timpad; kangaroojacqui; the scourge of yazid; conspiracy guy; nycgopchick; meekonegop; fedora; osha; onyx; cyborg; tiamat; harmless teddy bear; laura earl; americanwolf; lady jag; 4mycountry; watery tart; slings and arrows; simcha7; DocRock; trussell; aloysius89; SandyInSeattle; happygal; grellis; Badeye; chode; libwhacker; congressmanbillybob; nopardons; Jet Jaguar; bad company; najida;Kackikat
45 posted on 08/10/2004 4:57:58 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar !")
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To: Liz

Of course the media wants to help Kerry win. The problem is his campaign keeps doing stuff that makes it difficult for media to help him look good. In other words, if his campaign is acting like a bunch of amateurs, there's only so much even a Kerry-compliant media can do on the candidate's behalf.


46 posted on 08/10/2004 5:00:48 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Conspiracy Guy; Liz; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Mr.Tonkin, you have several hundred on your ping list.

Ping!


47 posted on 08/10/2004 5:01:02 AM PDT by MoJo2001 (I got everything but the part after "Now listen closely...")
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To: Fracas

BTTT!!


48 posted on 08/10/2004 5:02:30 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (*www.fairtax.org* John Kerry, Assclown Messiah)
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To: bondjamesbond
If the MSM can ignore this stinkin' pile in the middle of the Living Room carpet, I will never trust them again.

Give yourself a healthy head start, and stop trusting them NOW. The media is not trustworthy, never has been. Use your own talents to figure out what is going on.

49 posted on 08/10/2004 5:03:14 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: zarf
I guess we'll see how effective the alternative media has become.

True. This is a test.

I wonder if we should we look forward to lots of problems with the internet.

50 posted on 08/10/2004 5:04:21 AM PDT by syriacus (Let's give a jeer, and 1 jeer more, for the ersatz hero of Swift 94. He IS a flipping man.)
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