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U.S. to Give Border Patrol New Powers to Deport Illegal Aliens
NY Times ^ | August 10, 2004 | RACHEL L. SWARNS

Posted on 08/10/2004 6:04:26 PM PDT by neverdem

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And now, in the "For What It's Worth" department...

There are changes here on the border, but it's looking like too little, too late. Time - and lost lives - will tell.

22 posted on 08/10/2004 7:08:56 PM PDT by HiJinx (Close the Borders - Now)
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To: bayourod
And if the 21st Century version of slavery was not available to illegal aliens and sleazy employers, would those vital, degrading, manual labor intensive, low paying jobs be worth higher wages?(oh horrors!)
23 posted on 08/10/2004 7:12:03 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: sixmil

I wonder if the ACLU will require the painting of a broad green line 100 miles from the border to indicate where the "get home free" zone starts?


24 posted on 08/10/2004 7:27:06 PM PDT by skip_intro
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To: DustyMoment

" Bush is in Vicente Fox's back pocket "

According to the AP your post is hyperbole and... can we get a quote on your views of the Catholic Church?

Remember the Alamo!


25 posted on 08/10/2004 7:33:56 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Watch out for AP trolls :o)
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To: HiJinx

Let's hope they're finally getting serious, but I'll believe it when I see it.


26 posted on 08/10/2004 7:39:27 PM PDT by SAMWolf (There are some things money can't buy - John Kerry isn't one of them)
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To: sixmil

It looks as if terrorists make it past the 14 day deadline, they are free to bomb you on the 15th day.


27 posted on 08/10/2004 7:47:30 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: neverdem
YES!
28 posted on 08/10/2004 7:48:26 PM PDT by No-Compromise Conservative
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To: sarasmom
No. Subdivsion lawns would not be manicured. More people would be driving their cars with body damage. Roofs would have multiple patches. Less people would be buying new houses. Less new freeways, less new schools and hospitals, fewer new factories, less people eating out at restaurants, fewer new car would be built, clothes wouldn't be replaced as often, less petroleum would be consumed, fewer people would stay in motels or visit theme parks, fewer bass boats would be built..

Union members who assume that people will pay them $35 an hour to do the jobs that immigrants are doing for $8 an hour are living in the past when our living standards were lower and they could coerce employers into paying exorbitant wages. But times have changed. Consumers will simply cut back on non necessary expenditures and postpone buying a new car or house rather than pay twice the price.

Without increasing immigrant labor our economy would contract, new factories would be built overseas and our living standard would drop. You should be thankful that you are living in the greatest period of economic prosperity in history.

If you are just sitting around waiting for the government to take a job away from an immigrant and give it to you, you're going to be waiting a long time.

29 posted on 08/10/2004 7:59:13 PM PDT by bayourod (I resent Kerry telling me that his values, not mine are the only true American values.)
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To: neverdem
"Citing concerns about terrorists crossing the nation's land borders, the Department of Homeland Security announced today that it planned to give border patrol agents sweeping new powers to deport illegal aliens..."

Suddenly -- Three months till the election '04 -- Homeland Security has "concerns about terrorists crossing the nation's land border"??

Are these people aware yet that Pearl Harbor has been attacked?

30 posted on 08/10/2004 8:05:25 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: bayourod
It must be nice to live in a strawmanworld!

I guess it must be hard for you as the newly minted unproductive overseer of the slaves to understand that there is a huge range between $8.00 an hour and $35.00 an hour.

I shut two jerks just like you down this week up close and in person.

Both "felt" good about breaking our laws to knowingly employ criminal aliens, at the expense of our legal citizens and legal aliens.
After all, it put a few more dollars in their pockets, for the short term.
When they were told in no uncertain terms that I could and would report their sorry, sordid criminal actions to the appropriate authorities, they changed personalities from pious "just helping the poor and downtrodden" to mini-mafia wannabees.
Your type, the criminal apologist, is just so boringly predictable and pathetic!
Laws are always only applicable to some nameless "others", of whose crimes you don't actually approve or profit from.
Society as a whole be damned!
Want anarchy?
Come get some!
You won't like it at all, I promise .
31 posted on 08/10/2004 8:29:05 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: gubamyster; Dutchy

Ping.


32 posted on 08/10/2004 8:35:37 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: sarasmom

Well, isn't that nice.


33 posted on 08/10/2004 8:36:53 PM PDT by bayourod (I resent Kerry telling me that his values, not mine are the only true American values.)
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To: bayourod

Consider your soul, bayourod, if not your freedom.
Since you have no real respect for law as a societal concept, why do you expect anyone else to abide only by the ones you approve and profit from?
Perhaps the ones I am inclined to ignore are ones that profit myself, and might tend to cause you great harm.
Since we are both seemingly free to ignore the laws of society,in your opinion, it seems you advocate anarchy.
Be carefull what you wish for, you might actually get it.





34 posted on 08/10/2004 8:56:11 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: sixmil
All you have to do is establish you're a Mexican who has been in the country at least 15 days.

And if you're 101 miles from the border, you're home free.

35 posted on 08/10/2004 9:09:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: sarasmom

You'll love this one.

Go to this link and download IRS Form 211 entitled Application for Reward for Original Information.

If you suspect a local business of using illegal aliens and paying them under the table, narc ‘em out to the IRS. The tax boys can go in, recover all unpaid witholding taxes, plus a 100% penalty, and even fit the miscreant employer with a nice orange jumpsuit.

At the very least you will get that warm fuzzy feeling of doing your civic duty. You may also be awarded up to 15% of the recovered taxes and penalties.

Remember, it was a conviction for tax evasion that finally retired Al Capone...


36 posted on 08/10/2004 9:22:47 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: neverdem

This may seem like a step in the right direction but what it actually does is take away punishment for illegally crossing the border. Instead of spending time in jail they will be expedited to their country of origin. We already have something like this in place for illegals returning after deportation. Prior deports used to spend time incarcerated. Now they get no jail time unless there are mitigating factors like having numerous felonies.


37 posted on 08/10/2004 10:18:30 PM PDT by Ajnin
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To: potlatch; devolve; PhilDragoo

Ping


38 posted on 08/10/2004 10:23:17 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: JackelopeBreeder

That's a great idea. Talk about a dilemma for the goverment though, more money vs. enforcing immigration laws. Something tells me they might go for the money.


39 posted on 08/10/2004 10:26:35 PM PDT by sixmil
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To: neverdem; ntnychik; devolve; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe
it would apply to illegal aliens caught within 100 miles of the Mexican

That statement right there would leave out the 29 illegals found in an 18 wheeler in Fort Worth just this past week. One hundred miles leaves out any that get to my city!!

So the little 'shack cities' will start developing 100 miles from the borders now.

40 posted on 08/10/2004 10:30:00 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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