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Vet Site Gone Bad.
Vanity | 11 Aug 2004 | Robert G. Scott

Posted on 08/11/2004 8:08:21 AM PDT by R. Scott

I received an Email notification of a new message from the founder and moderator of the veterans’ web site “Veterans for Justice” (http://www.vetsforjustice.com/) this morning. It was a rant against President Bush and in support of that lying, backstabbing seditious traitor Hanoi John. I sent this in reply. I tried to post to the site but kept getting an error message.

It has been some time since I have posted here. I noticed that this forum had started to become a “Bash Bush” site. It then became an “Anybody But Bush” site. It seems that Billy Ray Kidwell is firmly into that category now. When I first joined I thought this was a good place for discussion and help. It now appears the moderator wants to encourage veterans to vote for the worst candidate in US history. I received the Email this morning and would like to publicly reply:

“They worship the leader of a Satanic Nazi Homosexual Group called the “Skulls and Bones”. The Skull and Bones was based in Nazi Germany. Now they are at Yale. And as has been exposed in their rites President Bush is their "Leader" and the group is clearly Satanic and homosexual in nature while seeking power.”

The Great Liar, backstabber, seditious traitor and Presidential candidate - Hanoi John Kerry - is also a member of the Skull and Bones.

"His lie is that he is against Senator Kerry for exercising his Constitutional Rights and telling the TRUTH about a lot of the evil that takes place in war. If you REALLY served in Vietnam YOU know Kerry told the truth.”

I was in Viet Nam from 1966-1968 - far longer than Hanoi John’s 1/3 of a tour. It was not Hanoi John’s Constitutional Right to meet with and give aid and comfort to the enemy while still an officer in the US Navy. He lied about the very few war crimes being committed were official policy. Hanoi John did admit to committing numerous war crimes himself - and for some reason people consider that backstabbing, lying, seditious traitor a “hero”!

“Either YOU are with Americas Veterans…. OR YOU ARE AGAINST US! Billy Ray Kidwell Founder www.VetsForJustice.com”

I am FOR America’s Veterans. I AM an American Veteran. I do not believe that personal greed should supercede the harm that Hanoi John and Jane did to American Veterans.

Robert G. Scott, SFC, USA (Ret)


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: hanoijohn; veterans; websites
Comments?
1 posted on 08/11/2004 8:08:21 AM PDT by R. Scott
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To: R. Scott

You fought one war, Robert. We are now in another (besides the War on Terror). We are having a cultural civil war and our side had better win it.


2 posted on 08/11/2004 8:17:22 AM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry is a sports fan like Lorena Bobbitt is a surgeon)
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To: R. Scott

The owner of the website has an agenda:

Billy Ray Kidwell entered active duty with the Army in January, 1968. In August of that year, he was disciplined for being AWOL from his unit for four days. In January of 1969, he was detailed to Vietnam as an automotive repairman. While in Vietnam, he was disciplined for being AWOL for a day. He was also reduced in rank from private first class to private for carrying a pistol without authorization. Kidwell left Vietnam and returned to the United States in December of 1969, where his disciplinary problems continued. He was disciplined for speeding, and then for failing to report to duty. In September 1970, he was charged with being AWOL for several weeks during the summer, at which point he requested a discharge in lieu of a court-martial. The Army agreed, discharging him in October on "undesirable" grounds.


3 posted on 08/11/2004 8:21:49 AM PDT by steplock
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To: R. Scott
"“They worship the leader of a Satanic Nazi Homosexual Group called the “Skulls and Bones”. The Skull and Bones was based in Nazi Germany. Now they are at Yale. And as has been exposed in their rites President Bush is their "Leader" and the group is clearly Satanic and homosexual in nature while seeking power.” "

This will come to a huge shock for those who were members of Skull and Bones before there was such a thing as the Nazi Party. I believe Skull & Bones predates fascism altogether.

4 posted on 08/11/2004 8:26:09 AM PDT by sharktrager (The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And the paving contractor lives in Chappaqua.)
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To: R. Scott
My comment:

GREAT letter.

5 posted on 08/11/2004 8:26:36 AM PDT by chs68
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To: sharktrager

Skull & Bones was incorporated in 1856, so your point is very well taken.


6 posted on 08/11/2004 8:34:22 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Use in a well ventilated area)
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To: steplock

Now that's a veteran whose comments I would believe! (/sarcasm)


7 posted on 08/11/2004 8:36:47 AM PDT by crusty codger (I am a Republican goon and proud of it !)
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To: R. Scott

I have a question too. If the Swift Boat Vets keep getting told they can not "testify" about Kerry because they were not on the same boat, then how can Kerry testify about others supposed war crimes if they were not on his boat? If they were on his boat and committed war crimes then he was their commanding officer and he should be held accountable. They can't have it both ways!

Kerry tells his story to congress and wasn't questioned. These guys tell their story and are attacked to the core. I am so tired of the MSM and their propaganda.

The communists used to print a paper in the Netherlands back in the 70's called "De Warheid" (The Truth). It was the same propaganda that these guys, MSM, spout today!


8 posted on 08/11/2004 8:44:27 AM PDT by landerwy
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To: doug from upland

Thanx for the new tagline.


9 posted on 08/11/2004 8:49:17 AM PDT by bankwalker (We are having a cultural civil war and our side had better win it.)
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To: R. Scott
They're selling their souls for a dollar. They think Kerry will give them more money.
Pretty sad, but tax payer cash pays the bills.

It's all about greed. There are tax money producers, and there are tax money consumers.

10 posted on 08/11/2004 8:50:22 AM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: bankwalker

Glad you could use it. :)


11 posted on 08/11/2004 8:53:10 AM PDT by doug from upland (John Kerry is a sports fan like Lorena Bobbitt is a surgeon)
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To: R. Scott
Skull and Bones is now under new management and wishes to be referred to as a
"Dirty Stupid Smelly Satanic Nazi Homosexual Group with Cooties"
Thank you. That is all.
12 posted on 08/11/2004 8:56:29 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: R. Scott

You might point out to these rather overheated fellows that JFK (lite) is also a Bonesman in good standing. Doe that make him a Nazi homophile also?


13 posted on 08/11/2004 9:00:04 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: doug from upland
We are having a cultural civil war and our side had better win it.

You got that right, Doug.

14 posted on 08/11/2004 9:40:06 AM PDT by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: steplock

Is it any wonder Kidwell is for Kerry with a track record like that? He is just looking for justification for his own childish bad behavior.

This is an unintended (by Kidwell) commentary on all of Kerry's supporters.


15 posted on 08/11/2004 9:50:09 AM PDT by SpinyNorman (McCain and Kerry called the Swifties "liars" without speaking to a single one.)
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To: steplock

Thanks. I didn't know any of his background. It looks like he would have fit right in with the VVAW bunch.


16 posted on 08/11/2004 12:49:02 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: doug from upland
We are having a cultural civil war and our side had better win it.

This time we won’t have to fight a foreign enemy, our “esteemed” press and our Congress - only our “esteemed” press.
17 posted on 08/11/2004 12:50:42 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: landerwy
If the Swift Boat Vets keep getting told they can not "testify" about Kerry because they were not on the same boat, then how can Kerry testify about others supposed war crimes if they were not on his boat?

Simple. Hanoi John gathered much of the information he used in his testimony before Congress from his Winter Soldier “hearings”. The testimony of a bunch of Genuine Imitation Almost Wantabee veterans is far more believable than that of veterans who were actually there. < /sarcasm >
18 posted on 08/11/2004 12:55:11 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: chs68

Thanks


19 posted on 08/11/2004 12:55:35 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: robowombat

Teddy and Hanoi John must be the only exceptions?


20 posted on 08/11/2004 12:56:40 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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