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Columnist Says Barack Obama 'Lied To The American People;' Asks Publisher to Withdraw Obama's Book
Press release - Yahoo news ^ | Tuesday August 10, 9:22 pm ET

Posted on 08/11/2004 2:14:13 PM PDT by Gelato

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To: Peach
Not all the American public votes - most don't. He won't step down and he'll just deny, while attacking the messenger. In the end, DEMS won't change their vote. I can't imagine the final tally will be much affected by this.

There are so many lies muddying the water these days, the electorate just seems to dismiss truth. They are only operating on emotional response. Remember, more than 1/3 of Americans believe terror threats are fake.

61 posted on 08/11/2004 2:34:07 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Gelato

What's this?!?! A democRAT LIED?!?!? Why, I can't believe it!!

62 posted on 08/11/2004 2:34:16 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Conservative, Republican, Raider Fan)
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To: Gelato


(Democrat/liar, the words are interchangable)

64 posted on 08/11/2004 2:34:46 PM PDT by tuckrdout (I am here because abortion use to be illegal.)
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To: Gelato
...It is likely Obama's father had Mau Mau sympathies or connections, or he would not have been welcomed into the murderous inner circle of rapists, murderers, and arsonists...

Nice smear job.

65 posted on 08/11/2004 2:34:49 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: oolatec
It is a bit difficult to credit anyone who exposes a "lie" with contrary assertions that begin with "It is likely..."

Just as some folks have trouble with the concept of truth, others have difficulty with the concept of a lie.

For example, just because his grandfather was a "wealthy" farmer does not mean his father did not grow up "herding goats." He may not have HAD to herd goats to keep from starving, but I don't think Obama made that kind of statement - implications notwithstanding. Stating a fact in a way that gives others an incorrect impression is not a lie. It is not entirely honest, but it is not a lie.

BTW - give me back my loc-nar.

66 posted on 08/11/2004 2:35:23 PM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: jaka

if true, it will change lots of minds

67 posted on 08/11/2004 2:35:23 PM PDT by camas
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To: A. Morgan

Man you can't make this kind of stuff up.

68 posted on 08/11/2004 2:35:43 PM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry and The Taxocrates must be defeated! "Kerry wasn't in Cambodia before he was in Cambodia.")
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To: Gelato

Reckon he spent Xmas in Cambodia in 68? If not, why not?

69 posted on 08/11/2004 2:35:50 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Gelato

This is trash.

The fellow has always been open about his family's background. See for instance the Chicago Sun Times:

So, I have a deep faith," Obama continues. "I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.

"That there are values that transcend race or culture, that move us forward, and there's an obligation for all of us individually as well as collectively to take responsibility to make those values lived."

It's perhaps an unlikely theological position for someone who places his faith squarely at the feet of Jesus to take, saying essentially that all people of faith -- Christians, Jews, Muslims, animists, everyone -- know the same God.

That depends, Obama says, on how a particular verse from the Gospel of John, where Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but by me," is heard.

Obama's theological point of view was shaped by his uniquely multicultural upbringing. He was born in 1961 in Hawaii to a white mother who came from Protestant Midwestern stock and a black African father who hailed from the Luo tribe of Kenya.

Obama describes his father, after whom he is named, as "agnostic." His paternal grandfather was a Muslim. His mother, he says, was a Christian.

"My mother, who I think had as much influence on my values as anybody, was not someone who wore her religion on her sleeve," he says. "We'd go to church for Easter. She wasn't a 'church lady.' "

In his 1993 memoir, Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance, Obama describes his mother as "a lonely witness for secular humanism."

"My mother's confidence in needlepoint virtues depended on a faith I didn't possess, a faith that she would refuse to describe as religious; that, in fact, her experience told her was sacrilegious: a faith that rational, thoughtful people could shape their own destiny," he says in the book.

When he was 6 years old, after his parents divorced, Obama moved with his mother and her new husband -- a non-practicing Muslim -- to Indonesia, where he lived until he was 10 and attended a Roman Catholic school.

"I went to a Catholic school in a Muslim country, so I was studying the Bible and catechisms by day, and, at night, you'd hear the [Muslim] prayer call," Obama recalls. "My mother was a deeply spiritual person and would spend a lot of time talking about values and give me books about the world's religions and talk to me about them.

"Her view always was that underlying these religions was a common set of beliefs about how you treat other people and how you aspire to act, not just for yourself, but also for the greater good."

Obama earned a degree in political science from New York's Columbia University in 1983 and in 1991 graduated magna cum laude with a law degree from Harvard University. Since 1993, he has been a lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School.

70 posted on 08/11/2004 2:35:50 PM PDT by Wisconsin
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To: anniegetyourgun
So lets see here.......

The Dem Convention had a Impeached President speak on the first night

On the second night they had fat drunk who left a young to drown in his car

The third night they had a guy who lied about who he is

And the final night they had a Flip Flopping Apocalypse Now wanna be accept the nomination!!!


71 posted on 08/11/2004 2:35:59 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: sinkspur

Not only is Andy Martin a gadby, he is a certifiable nutjob.

I would not believe a jot that Andy Martin writes.

He is missing some brain cells.

Seriously, I remember this clown from my Florida days.

Having said all this, I hope Obama is a fraud and is exposed. The problem is that Martin is really nuts!

72 posted on 08/11/2004 2:36:37 PM PDT by Seeking the truth ( - See the Ronald Reagan Stamps!)
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To: Gelato

What is it with the dems?
They can't seem to help themselves!

Lie, lie, lie, lie.

But with a name like barack obama.........even I knew there was something amiss..............

73 posted on 08/11/2004 2:36:51 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my pardon with His blood, Hallelujah!!! What a Savior!!!)
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To: Gelato
Martin says Obama may be a threat to the Jewish community.

Yeah, this guy seems really concerned with the Jewish community. From one of his press releases:

"Israel is trying to embroil the United States in a 'holy war' in the Middle East," Martin will charge, "and the Bush Administration is flaccidly going along. My own local paper, the Palm Beach Post, got it right when it stated Bush's policy was 'diplomatically impotent.'

"In 2000, President Bush promised to restore honor and dignity to the White House. On a personal level he has done that. But in the Middle East, he is dishonoring America. Receiving the Israeli murderers at the White House, while the blood was still warm in Gaza, was outrageous...

"Just as Bill Clinton confronted Sister Souljah over Black extremism in 1992, George Bush must withdraw our ambassador from Israel, suspend all military and economic aid, and tell Israelis to get out of the West Bank and retreat to the 1967 Green Line, immediately.

"The irony of the situation is that Bush thinks his policy will buy Jewish votes. On the contrary, the Israelis are creating a conflagration in the Middle East that puts America on the cusp of chaos. No one voted in 2000 to endorse terrorism or territorial conquest by Israel. By allowing Israel to rampage-as I previously predicted that nation would during 2004-Bush is engineering his own political suicide in November.

74 posted on 08/11/2004 2:36:53 PM PDT by dirtboy (Forget Berger's socks - has ANYONE searched his skin folds for classified documents?)
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To: Bigh4u2
So his grandfather was a farmer. Then presumably, his father grew up on a farm. I would imagine it entirely possible that that farm had some goats on it that his father may or may not have herded as some point.

This whole thing is just silly.

75 posted on 08/11/2004 2:36:55 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Gelato


76 posted on 08/11/2004 2:37:01 PM PDT by Elpasser (Be careful what you ask for . . .)
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To: Gelato

big bimp

77 posted on 08/11/2004 2:37:20 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and Weather are our only news.)
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To: Inyokern

Swahili, IIRC, is a language largely based on Arabic, so the name Barack is probably Muslim, and a popular name in Kenya since a large portion of Kenya is Muslim.

78 posted on 08/11/2004 2:37:20 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: jaka

Given his support for "live birth abortion" (the killing of breathing babies accidentally born in abortions), that comment isn't too off the mark.

79 posted on 08/11/2004 2:38:11 PM PDT by Gelato
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To: Wisconsin
I'm rooted in the Christian tradition.

Interesting. He doesn't actually say there that he is a Christian.

80 posted on 08/11/2004 2:39:03 PM PDT by B Knotts
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