Posted on 08/12/2004 8:41:37 AM PDT by outlawcam
In case you missed U.S. Senate candidate Alan Keyes' appearance on CNN, the highlight was when he had more to say about Democrat rival Barack Obama and slavery.
The cable network Wednesday asked Keyes to explain this comment: "I would still be picking cotton if the country's moral principles had not been shaped by the Declaration of Independence. Obama has broken those and rejected those principles. He has taken the slaveholder's position."
Keyes replied, according to CNN's transcript:
"Obama thinks that I look to people in the party or anybody else for my understanding of the great issue of American history? I look to my heritage. My ancestors were slaves. I spent a good deal of my time thinking about the issue of slavery and have written about it and have in fact made my understanding of the principles that were involved in its abolition one of the key focuses of my career in public life.
"So I think I understand a great deal about it. First thing I understand, by the way, is that slavery is not a racial issue; it's an issue of human justice. Justice for all people based on the notion that every human being has a worth that comes not from human choice or constitutions, but from the hand of almighty God.
"That was the principle that was used to overthrow the slaveholders. And Obama violates that principle when he withdraws respect from the life of unborn human beings in the womb.
"So of course, the same deep issue of principle that was involved in slavery is dividing the country today over this heinous practice of abortion."
He didn't talk about how the Democrat party was historically entwined with the Ku Klux Klan and slavery, but the election is still months away.
Ping
Keyes is off to a mighty good start.
bttt
I'm from Illinois, and I'm happily going to vote for Keyes!
Even if he doesn't win (and probably will not), I pray he uses this campaign to reach more people with his eloquence and clear thinking. I'd like to also think that some blacks in America will take notice, and maybe start changing their minds about who their leadership should be.
-- Joe
Anybody come up with a picture sheets byrd next kerry and klntoon, H saying leaders of the demo rat party with byrd's comments about white n's underneath.
That might be interesting.
First thing I understand, by the way, is that slavery is not a racial issue; it's an issue of human justice. Justice for all people based on the notion that every human being has a worth that comes not from human choice or constitutions, but from the hand of almighty God.Bump for Justice."That was the principle that was used to overthrow the slaveholders. And Obama violates that principle when he withdraws respect from the life of unborn human beings in the womb."
Good for Keyes.
The snobs at CNN deserve no less than a grand smack down.
With that said, Keyes needs to appeal to the voting masses
using language they understand... they're democrats in need
of eddykatin.
Darn. I do dislike it when the abortion issue rears its ugly head in "conservatives'" campaigns. There's no doubt that a woman's right to be secure in her person justifies abortion in the case of rape and incest. And if it justifies it in the case of rape...
It's conservative to believe that a pre-born's dependency on the sustenance of another's person, creates in it a legally inferior status.
To carry this logic through, people on welfare should have inferior rights when it comes to things like suffrage. Their dependency infringes on the liberty of others.
Nobody does moral clarity like Alan Keyes. And such beautiful sentence structure, too ... all those precise modifiers.
How many politicians speak like this extemporaneously?
Keyes bump.
And someone alert me to his TV appearances please 8-)
The Toons over at CNN aren't bright enough to understand what Keyes is talking about.
No, it doesn't, because the baby is not the attacker, but a natural consequence of the injustice of the father, and I'm not sure we make a habit out of punishing people for something his or her parents did. If you accept the principle that abortion is wrong because it is taking the life of an innocent human being, then you cannot accept that we take the life of that innocent human being because of the sins of the father.
However, Keyes has said time and again that if all he was able to achieve is to stop abortions that are happen in every case except those done because of rape and incest, that he would accept that, because he will have stopped 98% of all abortions.
And as you know, I'm paraphrasing. "He" can't do anything. "We" are responsible for everything.
Fox's website reported Obamas response to Keye's saying that he voted against the ban because it did not include any sort of exception in which to protect the mother's life. Are such instances common where an abortion is ever used for preservation of a mother's health? I've never really heard this before but then again I'm not very knowledgeable in any such field. He also referenced the recent election of John Hart to be the Republican rep. for the Tennesee Congessional seat in November saying that "Mr. Keyes should look to members of his own party before using such language."
Disagree. If the fetus is a human (I say it is) then the intentional death of that human is murder. What can ever justify the intentional murder of an innocent human?
Rape and incest do not justify abortion -- ever.
Perhaps you haven't bothered to find out about what the oh-so-articulate and "reasonable" Barack Obama supports.
Obama voted three times against a law that made it illegal to kill infants born alive in the course of an abortion procedure. That's infanticide. Anyone who thinks such a thing is 'OK' is utterly unfit for office.
Libertarian rhetoric about dependency (along with the red-herrings of incest and rape) shows itself to be rather thin in the moral department. Individual rights, while important, don't extend to the slaughter of innocents.
It's a loophole. All someone needs to do is find a doctor who says that bringing a child to term will put an undue amount of stress on the mother, so she can say that she needs to have an abortion to protect her mental health.
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"Rape and incest do not justify abortion -- ever."
I think the abortion issue has more to do with being responsible for one's actions, and since you can't hold the victim responsible for rape and incest (usually) then abortion ought to be allowed in those cases.
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