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Arab terrorists 'are getting into the US over Mexican border
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Posted on 08/14/2004 7:49:04 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

Arab terrorists 'are getting into the US over Mexican border'
By Julian Coman in Washington
(Filed: 15/08/2004)

President Bush has launched a drive to halt illegal immigration across America's porous southern border, amid growing fears that terrorists may be using Mexico as a base camp before heading to Arizona, Texas and California.

A string of alarming incidents has convinced Bush administration officials that lax immigration rules, designed to cope with the huge numbers of illegal entrants from Mexico, have become a significant loophole in the war on terror.

Over the past month, border agents from Arizona and Texas have anonymously reported recent encounters with dozens of Arab men, who have made their way across the 2,000-mile Mexican border.

Patrol agents told one Arizona newspaper that 77 males "of Middle Eastern descent" were apprehended in June in two separate incidents. All were trekking through the Chiricahua mountains and are believed to have been part of a larger group of illegal immigrants. Many were released pending immigration hearings. According to Solomon Ortiz, the Congressman for Corpus Christi in Texas, similar incidents are "happening all over the place. It's very, very scary".

The two groups of Arab males were discovered by patrol guards from Willcox, Arizona. "These guys didn't speak Spanish," said one field agent, "and they were speaking to each other in Arabic. It's ridiculous that we don't take this more seriously. We're told not to say a thing to the media." A colleague told the paper: "All the men had brand-new clothing and the exact same cut of moustache." Local ranchers have also reported a rise in the sightings of large groups of young males.

Last month, border patrol agents at McAllen airport, Texas, arrested a woman believed to be Pakistani, who was carrying a false South African passport. The woman, Farida Ahmed, is still being questioned by the FBI. She was travelling to New York, and admitted to having illegally crossed the Mexican border. She was still carrying a pair of wet jeans in her travel bag.

More than 1.2 million people attempt to cross US borders illegally each year. The vast majority are Mexicans who are immediately repatriated. But under existing laws, which take account limited detention facilities, many non-Mexican illegal immigrants are released prior to a hearing with an immigration judge, which most fail to attend. Almost 22,000 non-Mexican immigrants have been released pending a hearing since last October. Once released, they are free to travel on their own throughout the United States. According to one Texas immigration official, those who slip through the net come "from all over the world".

"If you want to enter the US illegally," said the official, "the way to do it is to get to Mexico first." The possibility of a southern border loophole for potential terrorists was recognised as early as last year. In testimony before Congress, Steve McCraw, the assistant director of the FBI's Office of Intelligence, stated that "the ability of foreign nationals to use [the hearings procedure] to create a well-documented but fictitious identity in the United States, provides an opportunity for terrorists to move freely within the US without triggering name-based watch lists. It also enables them to board planes without revealing their true identity".

According to new laws, approved by President Bush and announced last week by the Homeland Security Department, illegal immigrants who are not Mexican will be repatriated within days, without a hearing. The effort comes in response to a prolonged campaign by Texas congressmen, who have argued that the president's home state was in danger of becoming a gateway to America for terrorists.

In a letter to President Bush last week, Mr Ortiz wrote: "Law enforcement agencies across the south-west border are alarmed that the US is releasing thousands of OTMs [Other than Mexicans]. Those released include individuals from nations the US defines as state sponsors of potential terrorism, or from those nations that have produced large numbers of al-Qaeda militants."

Mr Ortiz also claims that immigration officials have privately warned him that a number of suspicious foreigners have been detained on the Mexican border and then released, including some who claimed to have travelled from South and Central America but were unable to speak Spanish.

The rules are to be tried out first in Tucson, Arizona, and Laredo, Texas. Any non-Mexican illegal immigrant found within 100 miles of the border, within 14 days of their arrival, will be immediately expelled. D'Wayne Jernigan, a sheriff in Del Rio, Texas, believes that the rule change should be immediately implemented across the entire Mexican border. Last month, immigration authorities told Sheriff Jernigan to release 17 Brazilians from his jail, before the FBI had located an interpreter in order to interview them.

"My concern is, are we serious about terrorism?" said Sheriff Jernigan. "Or about homeland security? Because we're turning loose non-Mexicans by the thousands. Entering this country illegally is a crime, and we're turning our heads and ignoring it."

27 April 2004: Desert Indians face flash flood of illegal migrants
18 July 2001: Bush backs down on amnesty for immigrants


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Mexico; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; alq; alqaedamexico; bordersecurity; bush43; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; islam; issues; mexico; otm; terrorism
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To: NewRomeTacitus
The administration is swooping into action. Why do I still feel like our lives are gambling chips on a political craps table?

The intersting thing about about Farida Ahmed is that she is still being questioned by the FBI. They at first thought she was a South African muslim and now they find out she is Pakistani. She is to have a grand jury hearing Monday regarding 3 immigration charges which are lying to the feds, entering the country illegally, and altering her passport which was probably one of those illegal African passports.

Notice the difference in her treatment and all the other OTMs. They are to be repatriated immediately or their case will be processed by an immigration judge. Not a grand jury.

All of a sudden we are worried about the OTMs after letting 40 to 50 thousand in last year. I wonder why?

21 posted on 08/15/2004 12:53:46 AM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Because we my friend are all dispensible little chips ;(


22 posted on 08/15/2004 1:17:26 AM PDT by JustPiper
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To: Happy2BMe
President Bush has launched a drive to halt illegal immigration across America's porous southern border

Not sure if I really believe this...

Which is it President Bush supports--de facto amnesty for illegal aliens or what's claimed in this article? He can't credibly advocate both at the same time.

23 posted on 08/15/2004 1:22:39 AM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: JustPiper

Glad to see you back on some of these threads.


24 posted on 08/15/2004 1:41:11 AM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: Happy2BMe

"Many were released pending immigration hearings"

Yeah sure, that solves the problem, doesn't it? Surely, they'll show-up at their deportation hearings. NOT!

America, wake-up and throw the bastards in Washington, out! We're going to have to do it all, ourselves. We can't trust the RINOS, or anyone else, anymore, dammit.


25 posted on 08/15/2004 1:47:48 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: texastoo

Farida Ahmed had been in and out of here at least 250 times in the last few years. She shouldn't be seeing a grand jury. She needs to be under the care of the old boys who specialized in sodium pentathal and other techniques too "barbaric" for the squeamish PC crowd.


26 posted on 08/15/2004 2:04:47 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (http://www.numbersusa.com)
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To: texastoo

Please ping me if you hear the outcome of Monday's hearings on Farida Ahmed.


27 posted on 08/15/2004 2:26:14 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm; B4Ranch; Geist Krieger
A wise old man has told me that all of this was "by design" and orchestrated by those with an eye on shifting the populations of the world into "controllable masses" on a "New World Order."

It has merit.

28 posted on 08/15/2004 2:31:27 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: texastoo
All of a sudden we are worried about the OTMs after letting 40 to 50 thousand in last year. I wonder why?

You noticed that too, huh? Suddenly, after the latest terror warnings we are hearing of these broad attempts to close the border to terrorists.

I suspect they have intelligence that confirms that known terrorists, who are to be instrumental in the next attack, have come over from Mexico...and they are trying to cover their butts. Too little, too late.

29 posted on 08/15/2004 2:47:32 AM PDT by garandgal (Lord; please let our country survive the "worthless generation.")
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To: garandgal
What other conclusion can one arrive at than to conclude the Southern border with Mexico is an open highway to Islamic terrorists?

Really, for that matter, so is the Canadian border. It is just impossible to patrol a (combined) border with over 6,000 miles of land mass. But that doesn't mean the government should back away from the known border incursions the whole world knows and sees that goes on 24/7.

30 posted on 08/15/2004 4:16:21 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

An Bush Owl swooping into action is better than a Kerry Bob White. I'd rather have a Reagan Eagle but I'll take the Bush Owl.


31 posted on 08/15/2004 6:35:37 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Happy2BMe
Bush has been a miserable failure on border control, but has done a lot of great things as a president also; so with the border, I will probably always be in a "we agree to disagree mode". Don't worry, we don't have any other choice at the poll but Bush,(barf moment - try to imagine Gore or Kerry, handling a war on terrorism) but it concerns me that they've never done anything till now to try and shore up the porous dike. Wonder if America will become a place where the citizenry will have to quell an up-rising from a group from with in it's borders?
32 posted on 08/15/2004 6:58:15 AM PDT by Issaquahking (U.N., greenies, etc. battling against the U.S. and Constitution one freedom at a time. Fight Back !)
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To: jpsb

That 100 mile rule is absurd --- the only thing it's going to do is get all the illegals living around here to head north --- they can be 100 miles north in 2 hours very easily.

Well --- it would help this immediate area except I doubt they'd really go after those with the anchor babies getting the welfare handouts.


33 posted on 08/15/2004 7:18:08 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Happy2BMe
A wise old man has told me that all of this was "by design" and orchestrated by those with an eye on shifting the populations of the world into "controllable masses" on a "New World Order."

It almost does seem like it's by design. First Clinton pretty much moved the border 80 miles north --- the border is pretty open where the original border was, shopping cards and visitor visas are very readily handed out so pretty much anyone can come over. The original border is very easy to get over --- the most they ask is to see a drivers license but usually they only ask citizenship, whoever says US or American is allowed over. The 80 mile checkpoints would take care of that they claimed. So of course illegals have been piling up inside that 80 mile region all along the border -- now they're telling them to move north and they'll be fine, otherwise they can be deported. And of course those 80 mile checkpoints are only a handful --- extremely easy to get around.

34 posted on 08/15/2004 7:23:33 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
36 posted on 08/15/2004 8:56:31 AM PDT by SJackson (We’ll cut the tongues of anybody who speaks badly about us-not accept gangsterism by Cowboys, Nasser)
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To: Issaquahking; B4Ranch; Geist Krieger
" Wonder if America will become a place where the citizenry will have to quell an up-rising from a group from with in it's borders?"

____________________

If the citizenry still has the "means" to quell the uprisings - yes.

The NWO Club is doing major surgery in the back operating room.

37 posted on 08/15/2004 10:29:31 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: Happy2BMe

BUMP!


38 posted on 08/15/2004 11:01:20 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Happy2BMe
How many Islamic terrorists per 1 million border crossers?

One is too many. I suspect at least 10 thousand who've come over in the last 18 months. And that's not counting multiple trips back and forth some make like that one woman in McAllen a few weeks ago. Live it up now, friends, because our days are numbered.

39 posted on 08/15/2004 3:34:55 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Happy2BMe
Many were released pending immigration hearings.

Can we have a show of hands if any think these guys will bother showing back up for their hearing? I'm waiting... No one? Come on, folks. Don't be shy. Anyone? Ok, we have a concensus of ZERO.

40 posted on 08/15/2004 3:38:52 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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