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Study: Unpatched PCs compromised in 20 minutes
News.com ^ | August 17, 2004, 12:22 PM PDT | Matt Loney and Robert Lemos

Posted on 08/18/2004 10:04:30 AM PDT by glorgau

Don't connect that new PC to the Internet before taking security precautions, researchers at the Internet Storm Center warned Tuesday.

According to the researchers, an unpatched Windows PC connected to the Internet will last for only about 20 minutes before it's compromised by malware, on average. That figure is down from around 40 minutes, the group's estimate in 2003.

The Internet Storm Center, which is part of the SANS Institute, calculated the 20-minute "survival time" by listening on vacant Internet Protocol addresses and timing the frequency of reports received there.

"If you are assuming that most of these reports are generated by worms that attempt to propagate, an unpatched system would be infected by such a probe," the center, which provides research and education on security issues, said in a statement.

The drop from 40 minutes to 20 minutes is worrisome because it means the average "survival time" is not long enough for a user to download the very patches that would protect a PC from Internet threats.

Scott Conti, network operations manager for the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, said he finds the center's data believeable.

"It's a tough problem, and it's getting tougher," Conti said.

One of Conti's administrators tested the center's data recently by placing two unpatched computers on the network. Both were compromised within 20 minutes, he said.

The school is now checking the status of computers before letting them connect to the Internet. If a machine doesn't have the latest patches, it gets quarantined with limited network access until the PC is back up to date.

"We are giving the people the ability to remediate before connecting to the network," Conti said.

The center also said in its analysis that the time it takes for a computer to be compromised will vary widely from network to network.

If the Internet service provider blocks the data channels commonly used by worms to spread, then a PC user will have more time to patch.

"On the other hand, university networks and users of high-speed Internet services are frequently targeted with additional scans from malware like bots," the group stated. "If you are connected to such a network, your 'survival time' will be much smaller."

In a guide to patching a new Windows system, the Internet Storm Center recommends that users turn off Windows file sharing and enable the Internet Connection Firewall. Microsoft's latest security update, Windows XP Service Pack 2, will set such a configuration, but users will have to go online to get the update, opening themselves up to attack.

One problem, experts say, is network administrators' reliance on patching and their assumption that users will quickly patch systems.

Speaking recently at the Microsoft TechEd developer conference in Amsterdam, Microsoft security consultant Fred Baumhardt said the day is likely to come when a virus or worm brings down everything.

"Nobody will have time to detect it," he said. "Nobody will have time to issue patches or virus definitions and get them out there. This shows that patch management is not the be-all and end-all."

Baumhardt stressed the importance of adaptability, using the human immune system as an example: "Imagine if your body said, 'Hmm, I have the flu. I've never had this before, so I'll die.' But that doesn't happen: Your body raises its temperature and so on, to buy time while other mechanisms kick in."

"If the human body did patch management the way (companies do), we'd all be dead."

Matt Loney of ZDNet UK reported from London.


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To: Liberty Valance

I've been on computers since '82, with my old IBM PS2/50, and have never had a virus hit any of my machines.

Norton and a few other apps do all the heavy lifting. I just make sure they're properly installed.

Macs have their own set of problems. I worked on them at an evening course learning Photoshop, Illustrator and Quark. They were always crashing and we spent way too much time re-loading software. Never again.


21 posted on 08/18/2004 10:30:56 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: aviator

If 90% of households had a mac then we will all be talking about mac problems with security.


22 posted on 08/18/2004 10:31:12 AM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: Liberty Valance

By the way, the new G5 iMacs will be announced in 11 days. The case will have a major redesign - with the main circuit board mounted behind the flat-panel screen. It should have a lot of power without taking a lot of desk space.


23 posted on 08/18/2004 10:32:17 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: Liberty Valance
I have no religious view concerning computers but I stick with Macs for that reason among many.

And, yes I can't stand Steve Jobs.

24 posted on 08/18/2004 10:32:56 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: aviator
Haven't had a virus yet on my Mac's at home. (20 years)

I got a few minor ones in the early 90s.

25 posted on 08/18/2004 10:34:04 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: aft_lizard
If 90% of households had a mac then we will all be talking about mac problems with security.

That's true, but since the Mac OS is a Unix variant, its architecture vastly diminishes its potential security exposure.

26 posted on 08/18/2004 10:34:39 AM PDT by SedVictaCatoni
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To: steplock
Besides your antivirus and ZoneAlarm you need: AdAware Spybot Search and Destroy SpywareBlaster Make sure you update your antivirus DAILY now manually also! Run the adAware/Spybot at least once/week and update everytime before you run it.

Who wants to waste time doing that stuff every day? It simply reinforces the fact that Mac OS is better than Windows.

27 posted on 08/18/2004 10:35:49 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: Liberty Valance

A five-year-old Imac will work fine for surfing the net, word processing & fit in easily with any home network.


28 posted on 08/18/2004 10:36:02 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: steplock
there is NOTHING better about a mac

Sorry, but Macs are inherently more secure and stable. Being Unix based, one cannot bypass permissions and compromise the system.

29 posted on 08/18/2004 10:36:10 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: nyconse

I'm on RoadRunner (Cable Modem) here in Houston. I connect the cable modem to a 802.11b AP and run everything wirelessly.


30 posted on 08/18/2004 10:37:32 AM PDT by tje
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To: steplock
"NEVER click anywhere on a popup window to close it EXCEPT the uppermost right corner "x" WARNING! If clicking that "x" does not close the window, under no crcumstance click on their "Close" or "Exit" button - that will automatically load the virus!!!!" Not really. In face, you should never click the X on an unknown popup. It's too easy to design a window with an X where you think it should be. Instead, press - to close the window. It will close it immediately, and that's the end of it. Don't click on unknown popups at all. Period.
31 posted on 08/18/2004 10:39:47 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: steplock

Good advice...I haven't had much trouble with popups. I run ad subtract..I have all the stuff you reccomend plus pest patrol (paid version/quite good worth the $19.00). Yet Trojan Downloader got in..I suspect my kids took down Zone Alarm while on EBay...I put a password in so this can't happen again. This downloader is causing havoc. I went on a couple of threads and as of Saturday, there was no real fix. I know something about computers so between escan and manual removal I got rid of it. I hesitate to post my fix because if you don't know what you are doing, you can really damage your pc.


32 posted on 08/18/2004 10:44:08 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: tje

That is very interesting. I have heard this is a good way to go. I am sick of Bell South. They charge higher and higher prices and make no effort to improve security.


33 posted on 08/18/2004 10:46:00 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: HAL9000
I've never used spambot, spyware, adaware or antivirus software on my Mac and don't intend to.

Norton? Don't need it. Download something from the internet? Of course! Install it? No worry.

Macs make life much easier.

I have an Apple Airport (wireless) network with 4 Macs and even 1 PC connected, but I would never use the PC for e-mail.

34 posted on 08/18/2004 10:46:16 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: Ff--150

See #19. ZoneAlarm. Sptbot SD. Adaware (even though it's recommended, I have never found much with it, and Spybot picks up WildTangent and others that AA misses - even the new SE version). SypwareBlaster for sure. Along with "Hosts" file in Spybot (there are others that block more "bad/nasty" sites.


35 posted on 08/18/2004 10:47:47 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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To: Ff--150

Add AVG antivirus from Grisoft. Update automatically daily. There's one or two better, but not for free.


36 posted on 08/18/2004 10:49:44 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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To: nyconse

It's worked well for me. I have 4 notebooks and one desktop all running wirelessly. One in the kitchen, one in the living room, two in the family room (the mrs and I surf while watching TV), and the desktop is really nothing more than a print server.

The notebooks are great cause we fold them up and slide them under the sofa..


37 posted on 08/18/2004 10:50:33 AM PDT by tje
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To: steplock
If everyone had a mac, then MAC's would be getting destroyed…

Thank you for doing your part to keep my computing safe.

38 posted on 08/18/2004 11:01:14 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: nyconse
and found Trojan Downloader...

I suspect that a large number of people (including those who are "doing everything right") have no idea that their systems have been compromised. There was junk on my system that didn't show up until I tweeked scanners way beyond the default settings... It was enough to make me blanch considering the daily updates to everything I'd been running since my systems initial smoke test nine months ago...

Take a look at this post.

39 posted on 08/18/2004 11:06:52 AM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution.)
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To: LTCJ

Oops. Hotlink was meant for another post.


40 posted on 08/18/2004 11:08:05 AM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution.)
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