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To: Carl/NewsMax
My Favorite post for dims and trolls
who slither in here each day.
And the Lame Stream media
who find the real news on Free Republic,
then rewrite and spin the truth.

Mommy Heinz!

Look what the Washington Post said on 8/21/04

"Although Kerry campaign officials insist that they have published Kerry's full military records on their Web site (with the exception of medical records shown briefly to reporters earlier this year), they have not permitted independent access to his original Navy records. A Freedom of Information Act request by The Post for Kerry's records produced six pages of information. A spokesman for the Navy Personnel Command, Mike McClellan, said he was not authorized to release the full file, which consists of at least a hundred pages. "

Look! What the Harvard Crimson wrote about me in 1970

Published on Wednesday, February 18, 1970
John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress
Crimson Staff Writer

"...One time Kerry was ordered to destroy a Viet Cong village
but disobeyed orders and suggested that the Navy Command
simply send in a Psychological Warfare team to be
friend the villagers with food, hospital supplies,
and better educational facilities."

Now my shipmates on the
are attacking me.

Click Here Mommy
and see what
the USS GRIDLEY crew say.

They say I told lies in Tour of Duty

Mommy : People can get
MY real book here FREE!!
I'm so proud of !
The New Soldier,
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War

Mommy : Please don't be mad
about my hero Al Hubbard.

Head of Kerry's Vietnam Vets Against the War was Vietnam Vet phony
"Many of the stories were later shown to be fictional. Other so-called Vietnam veterans, such as the executive secretary of VVAW, Al Hubbard, a self-styled poet ("See what you've become, Amerika," ends one of his Vietnam odes),
turned out to have no record of service in Vietnam."

Mommy : Why does McCain
still campaign with Bush?
Mommy : Why doesn't Al Gore defend me?
He is a Vietnam Vet.

Mommy : Did Hillary
"leak" FBI Files on me?
I even used her famous slogan?

"Kerry entered and abandoned Vietnamese village and slaughtered domestic animals
owned by the civilians and burned down their homes with his Zippo lighter."

It only takes one idiot to raze a village!
(My original response!)

Mommy : Where is Ted Kennedy?

12 posted on 08/22/2004 11:01:06 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: Peach; Dog

Well, goodness gracious.

18 posted on 08/22/2004 11:05:22 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (Impersonating June Cleaver since 1967)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
This is a war hero..

29 posted on 08/22/2004 11:08:58 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
From your link: Published on Wednesday, February 18, 1970

John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress

In America, "everybody who's against the war is suddenly considered anti-American," Kerry said. "But I don't think they can turn to me and say I don't know what's going on or I'm a draft dodger." Referring to the House Armed Services Committee, chaired by L. Mendel Rivers (D-S.C.), Kerry said, "I want to go down to Washington and confront Medel Rivers, who never fought in a war.

So Vietnam was just a photo-op for kerry?

58 posted on 08/22/2004 11:22:43 AM PDT by scan58
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Nixon targeted Kerry for anti-war views
White House tapes reveal then-president’s attempt to discredit Kerry during 1971 war protests, Senate testimony

By Brian Williams
NBC News
Updated: 6:59 a.m. ET March 16, 2004John Kerry’s first steps onto the national political stage took place back in 1971, when as a returning Vietnam War hero, Kerry led fellow veterans to Washington to protest against the Vietnam War and testify to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee about the horrors of the war he had seen first hand. Now an NBC News examination of White House audio tapes shows that Kerry’s leadership drew the attention and the ire of President Richard Nixon.

Kerry was a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War and went to Washington for a week in April, 1971 to protest, lobby Congress, even to return hundreds of medals and service decorations — thrown into a heap on Capitol Hill. Though the president was gradually withdrawing American ground troops, the veterans said that wasn’t enough. They wanted the United States to pull out immediately.

The Nixon administration went to court to block the 1,200 veterans from camping out on the Mall during their protest, but Kerry and his group stayed put. The reaction from Nixon’s inner circle was real contempt for the veterans. In private conversations inside the White House, Nixon called them “horrible” and “bastards,” H.R. "Bob" Haldeman described the veterans as “ratty-looking,” and Henry Kissinger dismissed them as “inarticulate.”

But John Kerry was just the opposite — presentable, politically astute and very articulate. He appeared before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to testify against the war, critical of the President’s Vietnam policy. “Someone has to die,” Kerry told the committee, “so that President Nixon won’t be, and these are his words, ‘the first President to lose a war.’”

"Well, he is sort of a phony, isn't he?

— President Richard Nixon, May, 1971
Speaking with aide Charles Colson about John Kerry

Kerry also questioned the administration’s strategy of gradual “Vietnamization” of the war — pulling out U.S. ground troops, and turning the war over to the South Vietnamese military. “How do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam?” Kerry demanded. “How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?”

White House attention
Kerry's testimony reached a national audience, including, we now know from once-secret White House tapes, the president himself, who brought it up with his chief of staff Bob Haldeman. Here is an excerpt from a tape recorded on April 23, 1971, the day after Kerry’s Senate testimony:

Nixon: Apparently, this fellow, uh, that they put in the front row, is that what you say, the front [unintelligible] the real stars — Kerry.

Haldeman: Kerry. He is, he did a hell of a great job on the, uh --

Nixon: He was extremely effective.

And Haldeman concluded: “I think you’ll find Kerry running for political office.”

Related documents
Extended excerpts from the Nixon White House tapes

Kerry ended his week in Washington with a speech to a huge anti-war rally at the U.S. Capitol, again pointing the finger at the Nixon administration for its conduct of the war, and its reaction to the veterans’ protests. “This is a government that cares more about the legality of where men sleep than the legality of where we drop bombs and why men die,” Kerry declared.

The Nixon White House saw Kerry as a threat, and set out to discredit him and infiltrate his organization. The week after the protest rally, Nixon is heard discussing Kerry with White House aide Charles Colson:

Colson: This fellow Kerry that they had on last week --

Nixon: Yeah.

Colson: -- hell, he turns out to be, uh, really quite a phony.

Nixon: Well, he is sort of a phony, isn't he?

Colson: Well, he stayed, when he was here --

Nixon: Stayed out in Georgetown, yeah. [edit]

Colson: -- was out at the best restaurants every night and, uh --

Nixon: Sure.

Colson: -- you know, he's just, the complete opportunist.

Nixon: A racket, sure. [edit]

Colson: We’ll keep hitting him, Mr. President.

Nixon's counter-attack
Colson was Nixon’s point man against Kerry, and he found a weapon in another veteran: John O’Neill. He was a spokesman for Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace, which backed Nixon administration policy in Vietnam, and in turn was supported by the White House.

Fresh out of the Navy like Kerry, O’Neill was angry at Kerry for saying U.S. servicemen in Vietnam routinely committed war crimes. The weekend before the Washington protests, Kerry made the accusations on NBC’s Meet the Press, saying, “I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed, in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones.” And, Kerry claimed, “I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All this is contrary to the laws of warfare.”

John O’Neill hit back at Kerry with administration-orchestrated press appearances of his own, including a news conference that June. O’Neill asked rhetorically, “Shall Mr. Kerry and his little group of one thousand or twelve thousand embittered men be allowed to represent their views as that of all veterans, because they can appear on every news program? I hope not, for the country’s sake.”

After the news conference, O’Neill met with Charles Colson at the White House, where the attack on Kerry was seen as a public relations coup. In a conversation with the president, Haldeman gave the credit to Charles Colson, and raved about John O’Neill:

Haldeman: -- crew cut, real sharp looking guy who is more articulate than Kerry. He’s not as eloquent; he isn’t the ham that Kerry is. But he’s more believable. [edit]

Haldeman: This guy now, is gonna, he’s gonna move on Kerry.

“This is a government that cares more about the legality of where men sleep than the legality of where we drop bombs and why men die.”

— John Kerry, April, 1971
Anti-war rally, U.S. Capitol

The White House encouraged O’Neill to challenge Kerry to a debate. Kerry agreed and before the event, President Nixon called O’Neill into the Oval Office for a pep talk. “It’s a great service to the country,” declared the president.

Nixon: Give it to him, give it to him. And you can do it, because you have a pleasant manner, too, because you’ve got — and I think it’s a great service to the country. [edit]

Nixon: You fellows have been out there. You’ve got to know, seeing the barbarians that we’re up against, you’ve got to know what we’re doing in that horrible swamp that North Vietnam is. You’ve got to know from all our faults of what we have in this country that, that what we’re doing is right. You’ve got to know too, people are critics. Critics of the war, critics of [unint], run America down. [edit] You’ve gotta know that you’re on the winning s—that, that you’re on the right side.

Two weeks later, the veterans squared off on the popular Dick Cavett show:

O’Neill: Mr. Kerry is the type of person who lives and survives only on the war weariness and fears of the American people. This is the same little man who on nationwide television in April spoke of, quote, crimes committed on a day to day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.

Kerry: We believe as veterans who took part in this war we have nothing to gain by coming back here and talking about those things that have happened except to try and point the way to America, to try and say, here is where we went wrong, and we’ve got to change.

Later that year, even as the war continued, Kerry left the increasingly radical Vietnam Veterans Against the War. But the Nixon White House kept after John Kerry. It’s said that when Kerry ran for Congress in 1972, Nixon stayed up late on election night until he knew for sure that Kerry had been defeated.

111 posted on 08/22/2004 12:05:57 PM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; All

12 - That article in the Harvard Crimson, you linked, from 1970, has a very important, but seldom addressed declaration:

"Kerry said that the United Nations should have control over most of our foreign military operations. "I'm an internationalist. I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations."
On other issues, Kerry wants "to almost eliminate CIA activity."

112 posted on 08/22/2004 12:06:41 PM PDT by XBob (Free-traitors steal our jobs for their profit.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Nice've be taking lessons from MiaT, I see..

120 posted on 08/22/2004 12:30:31 PM PDT by ken5050 (We've looked for WMD in Iraq for LESS time than Hillary looked for the Rose Law firm billing records)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Time to add Dole's quote to your "Fav post for dims."

152 posted on 08/22/2004 1:42:05 PM PDT by upchuck (Well, if I called the wrong number, why did you answer the phone?)
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