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Employer fines plummet for hiring illegals
North County Times ^ | 22 August 2004 | William Finn Bennett

Posted on 08/22/2004 12:10:57 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder

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To: JackelopeBreeder

Cheap workers across the border - good. Cheap prescription drugs across the border - bad.


21 posted on 08/22/2004 12:49:02 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: lelio

"Are they going to "work with" burglars to teach them how not to break into homes and steal goods next?"

The way the Justice dept. is acting they would probably teach them how to steal without getting caught, it might cost too much if they caught them.


22 posted on 08/22/2004 12:50:54 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Thanks for the ping AND the links, patriot!!!


24 posted on 08/22/2004 1:01:23 PM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: coconutt2000
I suspect there is a reason for this...

Ahhh, getting warmer coconutt2000. When in doubt...follow the money.

I'll give ya a big big hint. Ready?

Cheap Labor special interest groups donate thousands to get millions in return.

Right here, in this little story is the TRUTH behind the illegal invasion. All that talk about the one million new hispanic votes this Presidential election is a total smoke screen, a detour for those not paying attention.

25 posted on 08/22/2004 1:03:01 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Dreier; Too bad, he used to be a good guy. Now he's a good example.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

BTTT


26 posted on 08/22/2004 1:04:39 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Prime Choice

Hey, that guy in the tan shirt I think it my neighbor.

Thank God, I couldn't take one more night of his obnoxious salsa thumping stereo any more.

Do me a favor and take this contraption to Home Depot on Victory and Fallbrook Ave in West Hills, will ya?


27 posted on 08/22/2004 1:06:55 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Dreier; Too bad, he used to be a good guy. Now he's a good example.)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA

I think we should close our borders, legalize the illegals that are already here... Be extremely harsh on new illegals, and then implement an immigration policy that functions as a brain drain on the rest of the world.

In other words, we increase immigration permits for entrepreneurs, inventors, skilled professionals, and scientists.

We drain the foreign brain trust and bring them to America. We outsource the low paying jobs, which means less incentive for unskilled illegals to sneak in here, and we focus on owning the top management of every major industry in the world.

Or something nefarious like that.


28 posted on 08/22/2004 1:12:56 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: JackelopeBreeder

The other day, I saw a scrawny illegal from a neighboring construction site get very hostile and threatening with one of our security guards, a man who could easily have mopped the pavement with him.
I was called on to translate.
The illegal said he thought the guard was trying to harrass his friends. I informed him that in Texas, private security officers have the same protection as policemen, that is, assaulting one is a first-degree felony and 10+ years in prison. The illegal laughed and said that no "huero" had the guts to fight back. I invited him to back it up and he slunk away.

In my considerable experience, this kind of racism and arrogance is more typical than not for illegals and their citizen-apologists, with the facts of Hispanic bigotry and arrogance laughingly concealed behind the targets' supposed ignorance of the Spanish language, with the liberal double standard helping quite a bit.
This is not to fault the illegals themselves, since racism and bigotry are the default position for ignorant and uneducated people all over the world. Add in a hierachical culture that mistakes kindness for submission and you have a formula for racially motivated hatred and contempt of the rawest kind.

The real fault lies with the educated activists and politicians who allow this to happen. Hispanic political activists are acutely aware of Mexican racism, and will even admit it if you know the language and hold their feet to the fire, but it is part of their racist creed that they are entitled to the benefits of this kind of hypocrisy.

Bush and the Democrats have joined forces to sell this country and degrade its people for cheap labor and cheaper votes respectively.

My advice: learn Spanish (it isn't hard), monitor and report the racism and bigotry of the Spanish language media, and let the invaders from "la raza superior" know that they are being watched by people who know what is really happening.


29 posted on 08/22/2004 1:13:15 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy ("Paz en nuestro tiempo, la paz de los muertos")
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To: coconutt2000
I think we should close our borders, legalize the illegals that are already here... Be extremely harsh on new illegals

Never happen, not in this climate. Our only hope is to put pressure on the GOP to strengthen the border. Use the Dems to increase enforcement on businesses that hire them, and point out the Al Qaeda that are slipping in over what isn't enforced. Hopefully in the middle will be trapped those who want to come back and forth over the border. Those that want to stay will anyways, they don't need to be legalized. The LAST thing in the world we want is that (again) because we won't get the other two things you mentioned and you'll end up making things way WAY worse.

I've got a way better idea than the ones you mentioned about importing people,

Reduce welfare eligability and time one can be on it.

Ditto for unemployment benefits,

Question conventional wisdom and push for a LOWERING of the minimum wage.

Lessen regulation on work hours and overtime allowed.

We have a whole lot of people here who aren't working to their capacity. As Rush would say, we've way to many "takers" and not enough "producers" in our nation. The constant importation of undercutting workers outside of the semi-socialist system will only result in turning America the beautiful into a 3rd World nation. We must fix the system, not bring people in from outside of it.

30 posted on 08/22/2004 1:21:26 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Dreier; Too bad, he used to be a good guy. Now he's a good example.)
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To: atomic conspiracy
Bush and the Democrats have joined forces to sell this country and degrade its people for cheap labor and cheaper votes respectively.

They're importing poverty, disease, ignorance and dependence into America. They've sold their souls and turned their backs on their own country. Dare we call this treason?

31 posted on 08/22/2004 1:34:21 PM PDT by janetgreen (CALIFORNIA - free-for-all for ILLEGAL ALIENS)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

The Bush tacit amnesty plan in action.

Employers surely get the point: HIRE ILLEGALS


32 posted on 08/22/2004 1:47:08 PM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo Pres./Jeff Flake V.P. 2004!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

Yeah, no reason for the Islamofascists to attack us and risk killing themselves, all they have to do is cross our porous southern border in sufficient numbers, take all of the jobs that "Americans don't want", have an advocacy group created to to keep the Feds cowering in a corner and before long this will be the Islamic Republic of America.


33 posted on 08/22/2004 1:53:42 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Goodnight Chesty, wherever you may be.)
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To: coconutt2000

"I think we should close our borders, legalize the illegals that are already here... "

No way!

Fine those that employ them and make life so miserable for the illegals that they leave of their own accord!


34 posted on 08/22/2004 2:03:41 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed

Too expensive... We legalize the ones here, make them pay taxes.

We take the money you want to spend on outing millions of illegals, and use that to strengthen our borders so we get no more illegals. We implement a tough and extremely harsh border patrol.

We reform our welfare laws so if a legalized alien is on welfare, with no prospects, we ship them out.

Or something like that. Some other people have some good ideas, but trying to oust millions of illegals is more expensive than accepting them, making them pay taxes, and keeping out new illegals.


35 posted on 08/22/2004 2:10:05 PM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: coconutt2000
"Too expensive... We legalize the ones here, make them pay taxes. "

Expensive! Expensive is letting them be rewarded for their unlawfulness. Just starting prosecutions of illegal aliens' employers would trigger a voluntary mass exodus. Secondary disincentives include denial of all possible services and restrictions on the billions of remittance dollars they send out of the country. No mass roundups, no martial law, no judicial expense; a literal fortune in taxpayer money saved.

The only obstacle is forcing lawmakers to turn a deaf ear to their best contributors pleas as they're being led away. My thoughts on that run along negotiated plea bargaining - make the politicians give up a few until the dogies are stampeding, then taper off. Their incentive lies in heading off investigations that could find them taking the perp walk after their boys.

36 posted on 08/22/2004 2:16:22 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (http://www.numbersusa.com)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
btt



37 posted on 08/22/2004 3:05:10 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
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To: coconutt2000
I suspect there is a reason for this... For some reason, I think the Feds want to know where the illegals are, while they ramp up a way for going after the illegals for deportation.

I can't stop laughing. That is the funniest thing I've heard.
That joke should win you the Last Comic Standing competition hand s down !!!

38 posted on 08/22/2004 3:38:34 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

Good find!


39 posted on 08/22/2004 3:38:35 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
In Southern California, the numbers are even smaller. Thirteen companies received fines for violations of immigration laws in 2001 ---- and only two since.

It's clear, those in government have no desire to do anything about this chaos.

40 posted on 08/22/2004 3:39:42 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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