Posted on 08/23/2004 3:16:18 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
This ConservativePetitions.com Alert is a special message from RightMarch.com for [Tolerance Sucks Rocks]:
ALERT: Well, the Republican Party is asking for input from you and I to help set the party's agenda. That's right, it's time once again to write the GOP Platform -- the foundational document that declares to the world, "THIS is what Republicans stand for!"
This is also where the "trench warfare" takes place every four years, between the conservative base of the party, and the "big tent" of liberals, neocons, and good ol' "RINOs" - Republicans In Name Only.
If you've never experienced the passion and determination of our conservative warriors on the front line of this ideological warfare, or the desperate attempts by party bigwigs to "tone us down", here's a sample of what we're up against this year:
At the GOP Convention website, they've set up a webpage where ordinary folks like us can give input on what WE think should be the most important issues for the Republican Party this year. To do this, there is a drop-down menu which lists 20 different issues (including "other"). You can click on the issue which is "most important to you". With your input, they say, the party "will be well on our way to defining the GOP vision for America's tomorrows."
Sounds great. But if you look closer, you'll notice there are a few issues missing from the list they provide you to choose from... specifically, the issues that are most important to the GOP's conservative base!
There's no selection for "abortion" or "pro-life". There's no selection for "Second Amendment" or "guns". There's no selection for "immigration". There's no selection for "family" or "marriage". There's no selection for "religious liberty".
WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE THINKING? Without its conservative base, there would be NO Republican Party to begin with!
Maybe it was a mistake. Maybe some intern put the webpage up, and forgot a few things. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt.
But let's also make sure they know what really IS important to the "silent majority" of Americans -- the ones who will determine whether the GOP wins or loses this year.
TAKE ACTION: Go to the official Republican National Convention website below, fill in the form, and pick the "Other" issue from the drop-down menu. Then, fill in the rest of the form with what that "other" issue is, why it's important, and finally, what you think of the "party of conservativism" completely leaving OUT the issues that are most important to conservatives:
http://www.gopconvention.com/contents/goplive/platform/
NOTE: Be sure to forward this Alert to everyone you know who wants to help make sure that the GOP doesn't abandon its conservative grassroots in its party platform. Thank you!
A party platform has never been anything more then window dressing, which is why it takes up less and less of the conventions. It should be dropped all together.
Let's show those Neocons, RINOs, and Liberals who's REALLY in charge!
The worst thing about the desire to appear 'moderate' is that they are actually shying away from conservative positions that enjoy mainstream, majority support from Americans.
Most Americans oppose gay marriage, and though that is not necessarily the case with the Amendment that recently failed in the Senate, if the GOP made the public more aware of the fact that some sort of Amendment is necessary to stop inevitable court imposition of gay marriage then public support would rise.
Most Americans oppose amnesty for illegal aliens, and support reductions in legal immigration. But here of course President Bush is hopeless seeing as how he supports both amnesty and increasing legal immigration.
Most Americans oppose racial preferences, yet the GOP fears fighting for that morally right position for fear of being called names.
And that is the crux of it; the GOP fear of name-calling and demagoguery. And to be sure the fear is justified as the mainstream press would no doubt help the Left/Dems beat them down with those bogus charges, but eventually the GOP must draw a line in the sand and fight, otherwise they will have ceded the moral highground to the left w/o actually trying to give voice to what are -- again -- views held by most Americans. They must be smart about it, but to try and play by the rules of the Left, and to play on their field is a sure recipe for defeat.
Principles are no longer part of the GOP political machine. It has been commandeered by monied political opportunists who would use socialist ideals if it helps them maintain raw political power.
Just look at the propaganda they use to justify their amoral stance in #2.
You see a party platform as something meaningful when the platform has actually meant very little for many years.
That would explain your fascination with fringe candidates; they are are principle and platform...and absolutely no action. It is very easy for a fringe candidate to promise anything...anything at all. For instance, the Constitution Party candidate has a plank stating that as President he will end abortion on the first day in office.
Now any sane person knows that there is absolutely no way any President could deliver on that "principle". Which of course leaves the alternative...you.
Platforms have become about as meaningful as...well, as you.
Good post.
I'm certain in your world a statement of principles is completely worthless since you and the present batch of GOPs do not intend to adhere to them anyhow. And, therein lies the problem.
Oh, and by the way, my tolerance for that crass, low-brow, juvenile banter you are notorious for is very low today. Don’t feel too bad if I refuse to play that stupid game.
LOL! Therein lies YOUR problem. As I said, how is the Constitution Party President (now there is a real laugh) going to stop abortion his first day in office? That is one of his platform planks...so how is he going to deliver on that principle you hold so dear?
He couldn't and any sane person knows that...which would also explain your inability to grasp that very simply truth.
The principles that you so loudly defend today are very quickly disposable, for any candidate. Let's examine your idol, pat buchanan. Now history would dictate that his principles were pro-life, anti-gay and traditionally conservative. Yet during his campaign to enrich himself of Reform Party money, he had a platform that was pro-choice, pro-homosexual and pandered to just about every extremists, non-conservative, group out there. buchanan made his principles disposable for political expediency...and for profit. Of course we never heard your howls of outrage when buchanan trashed conservative principles.
"Oh, and by the way, my tolerance for that crass, low-brow, juvenile banter you are notorious for is very low today. Don’t feel too bad if I refuse to play that stupid game."
Indeed, your tolerance for crass, low-brow and juvenile banter seems to be exceedingly high. It's you who invited this discourse, and you who idolizes buchanan...you can't get much more crass, low-brow and juvenile then that.
Please let me know when you would like another.
I believe the entire national GOP should be declared hopeless. Hell, they can't even make a declaration of principles that a majority of real conservatives hold dear.
Rave on, so that all can confirm that.
So what difference does it make who we vote for?
Yes, it is embarrassing when you're caught in your own duplicity isn't it. One minute you're self righteously defending principles, the next you're trying to deflect away from the fact that you openly supported a candidate (joke that buchanan was), who flushed all conservative principles down the toilet.
You're a fraud...but that's not news.
Does your mommy know you're playing with the computer. It's political childishness to believe that a candidate will choose to lose an election just to appease his political party members.
I once had a referendum placed on my party's ballot (at the behest of one of my county chairmen) calling for English to be made the official language. It passed with 97+ % of the vote. The Governor laughed at me afterwords when I asked him if accede to the wishes of his party.
Enjoy the music at the convention and forget the platform. (Besides, GW is more conservative than 90% of the delegates; he just has to deal with the issues in the real world, not fairy platform land)
I'm not sure the party propagandists want to deal with that question intelligently. You will likely get some terse insult in response, if there is a response.
That's up to you to decide. Take abortion for instance. You could wrap yourself in morale indignation like eski-moo there (who has a very short memory) and vote for the Constitution Party candidate. He has said he would end abortion on his first day in office...it's part of his platform.
Of you can consider the facts that:
1) the Constitution Party Candidate can make a platform promise like that because he knows he will not have to deliver (he could never deliver on that promise if hell did freeze over and he was elected), and
2) there is a very good chance that the next President will shape the Supreme Court for the next twenty years and examine your alternatives.
Now, to me, whether it's in their platforms or not, I see the only chance I have of ending abortion is to vote for President Bush.
Holly sh!t, we would then have government that represented the people.
Pot, meet kettle.
I do believe there were two questions still on the table for you kettle:
1) How could the Constitution Party Candidate, with a platform principle to end abortion on his first day in office, delivery on his promise?
2) Why the sudden self-righteous concern for guiding principles when you so actively promoted a candidate during the last election who had abandoned his conservative principles and openly ran on a pro-choice/pro-homosexual platform? Or do principles ONLY matter when they're someone elses?
What happened to Exuctive Order?
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