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Posted on 08/24/2004 3:06:29 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
Nice picture.
He still looks like a wiseass pilot.
Time is short and there are too many major issues not being discussed.
The most important one for me is CHARACTER. Or don't you think that is an important item to be discussed?
Air Force Outstanding Unit Award, and Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon.
This is exactly the reason people are questioning Kerry pushing his four months in Viet Nam. What about what's on the plate today, Mr. Kerry? He doesn't want to talk about his record or his plan after he is elected. That is the whole problem.
Thank you so much for linking that! I had missed it before. Off to mark it for future reference.
"Single seaters" are all like that.
Question: Did George Bush have a nick name? Pilots do that don't they? What was his?
"I'd prefer to see the Viet Nam era put behind us and get down to the issues of today."
NOT until Kerry answers for his actions AFTER he came back.
Kerry reached out to Robert "Friar Tuck" Brant Cdr., USN (RET) Sunday night 8/22/04,
just hours after former Sen. Bob Dole publicly challenged Kerry to apologize to veterans.
Brant was skipper of the #96 and # 36 boat and spent time with Kerry in Anm Thoi.
Kerry and Brant slept in the same quarters,
and Brant used to put Kerry back to be at night when Kerry was sleepwalking.
http://www.drudgereport.com/dnc98.htm
KERRY: "Why are all these swift boat guys opposed to me?"
BRANT: "You should know what you said when you came back,
the impact it had on the young sailors
and how it was disrespectful of our guys that were killed over there.
[Brant had two men killed in battle.]
KERRY: "When we dedicated swift boat one in '92,
I said to all the swift guys that I wasn't talking about the swifties,
I was talking about all the rest of the veterans."
ROT IN HELL HANOI KERRY!
The New Soldier by John Kerry and Vietnam Veterans Against the War
FREE Download of The New Soldier by John Kerry
and and Vietnam Veterans Against the War
Print and distibute the book that John Kerry "forgets" to mention!
The one book he refuses to bring up.
"honor" John Kerry
Help America know what a "hero" he was at the Winter Soldier
scam he and Jane Fonda pulled on the USA when he came home.
Make sure Kerry "fans" get their copy!
http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf
http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf
http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf
"Phony Vietnam veterans alleged in books
Guenter Lewy's 1978 book America in Vietnam (pages 316-317) and B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley's Stolen Valor (Verity Press, Inc., Dallas, Texas)(pages 113, 131-137) contain similar information about alleged flaws in Lane's book. Neither book, however, refutes any of the testimony given during the Winter Soldier Investigation.
Lawyer and leftist activist Mark Lane was one of the organizers of Winter Soldier. In 1970, Lane had published a book called Conversations With Americans purporting to be interviews with Vietnam veterans about war crimes, containing Vietnam tales of atrocities. Reporter Neil Sheehan showed some interviewed in Lane's book had never served in Vietnam and others had not been in the situations they described. Lane admitted he did not check military records, as confirmation of details was not relevant. Lane later confirmed these militarty records.
The following are often falsely listed as being participants in Winter Soldier, but were actually in Lane's book instead. This confusion is probably due to Stolen Valor having an explanation of Lane's history within the section on Winter Soldier.
Chuck Onan, stock room clerk in Beaufort, S.C.
Michael Schneider, deserted in Europe and deserted again in the USA.
Terry Whitmore, was in an unpopulated area of Vietnam.
Garry Gianninoto, medical corpsman at battalion headquarters.
VVAW leader and Winter Soldier co-organizer Al Hubbard lied about being an officer, and sustaining war injuries - but he never testified at Winter Soldier .
According to the investigative work of Burkett, Lewy and others, there were many imposters, liars, and plain nutjobs who infiltrated the ranks of the anti-war movement, and, in some cases, testified to war crimes and atrocities that never occurred in order to get attention, sympathy, and, in one documented case, medals and honors."
http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/W/Winter-Soldier-Investigation.htm
Haha, You caught that too!
Harvard Crimson : Kerry refused order to destroy Viet Cong village
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=352185
Published on Wednesday, February 18, 1970
John Kerry: A Navy Dove Runs for Congress
By SAMUEL Z. GOLDHABER
Crimson Staff Writer
"...One time Kerry was ordered to destroy a Viet Cong village
but disobeyed orders and suggested that the Navy Command
simply send in a Psychological Warfare team to be
friend the villagers with food, hospital supplies,
and better educational facilities."
My Note:
Kerry disobeyed lawful orders and
gave aid and comfort to the
Viet Cong while US service people
died in Viet Nam
and were POW's in North Viet Nam
The first one is the USAF outstanding unit award, not to be confused with the organizational excellence award (looks the same, but the colors are reversed). The second one is most likely the USAF small arms expert award. Mom and Dad most likely wouldn't have ever let me back in the house if I hadn't won that one. ;)
If you ever have questions about ribbons:
http://military.usmedals.com/ribbons.html?s=usaf&p=vietnam&id_medals=0805MI167212
It'll show you what they all are, and then display the ones you select in the proper order.
I have no idea. :-(
Being married to a wiseass (Army) pilot, I would concur.
Well the least that they could do is repaint it with the correct squadron and wing designations.
Thank you!
Didn't Dean Martin's son die when his jet fighter crash? I think he was a member of the California ANG. So much for the idea that ANG fighter pilots have a "safe" job.
Mine was Navy. ;o)
Thanks, Tonk!
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