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Cleland's Publicity Stunt Flops
News Max ^ | 8-25-04

Posted on 08/25/2004 2:18:32 PM PDT by hope

Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Wednesday, Aug. 25, 2004

Cleland's Publicity Stunt Flops

Trying again to divert attention from his repeated refusal to leash his multimillion-dollar 527 attack dogs, Sen. John Kerry sent chum Max Cleland to Crawford, Texas, to hand President Bush a letter attacking Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. But the Georgia Democrat never made it past the Secret Service.

Cleland, who became a triple amputee in Vietnam when he picked up a live American grenade while horsing around, had a message from nine Senate Democrats who wrote that Bush had "a special duty" to condemn attacks on Kerry's military record.

Cleland, a former one-term senator from Georgia, claimed: "The question is where is George Bush's honor. The question is where is his shame to attack a fellow veteran who has distinguished himself in combat. Regardless of the political combat involved, it's disgraceful."

What's "disgraceful" is that the Democrats keep trying to pretend the president hasn't already denounced such attacks.

Too bad the president didn't give Cleland a message asking Kerry once more to stop his attacks.

Editor's note:

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cleland; crawford; kerry; publicitystunt
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1 posted on 08/25/2004 2:18:33 PM PDT by hope
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To: hope
"Cleland, who became a triple amputee in Vietnam when he picked up a live American grenade while horsing around"

O.K. does this qualify for the Darwin Award or what?

2 posted on 08/25/2004 2:19:56 PM PDT by hope (John Kerry is using the Mark Hacking recipe for disaster)
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To: hope

We threw that idiot out of office here in GA cause he drank too much of the Kool-Aid. Damn him and sKerry's cheap tricks.


3 posted on 08/25/2004 2:22:03 PM PDT by fuzzycat
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To: hope

Does anyone know who are the nine senate dims that signed on?


4 posted on 08/25/2004 2:25:34 PM PDT by paul51
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To: hope

Max Cleland - still a dumbass


5 posted on 08/25/2004 2:25:48 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A gun owner voting for John Kerry is like a chicken voting for Col. Saunders. (bye bye .30-30))
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To: hope

It was interesting to see that version in print. It differs from the current "official version", but is much closer to the story which circulated when he first ran for office many years ago.


6 posted on 08/25/2004 2:26:41 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: paul51

The senators signing the letter to Bush included Daniel Inouye of Hawaii, Ernest "Fritz" Hollings of South Carolina, Tom Harkin of Iowa, Jack Reed of Rhode Island, Tom Carper of Delaware and Jon Corzine and Frank Lautenberg, both of New Jersey.






7 posted on 08/25/2004 2:27:12 PM PDT by hope (John Kerry is using the Mark Hacking recipe for disaster)
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To: hope
Lol Cleland ... Kerry's "chum" .

Bad me.

8 posted on 08/25/2004 2:27:24 PM PDT by noexcuses
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To: hope
Cleland, who became a triple amputee in Vietnam when he picked up a live American grenade while horsing around ...

He picked up the grenade that had fallen off his, or anther soldiers webbing, while exiting a helicopter. Perhaps he didn't realize the pin had been jarred loose, thus arming the grenade, but horsing around with a grenade is not an accurate statement.

9 posted on 08/25/2004 2:28:32 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: fuzzycat
You guys didn't throw him out of office. You were tricked by those evil Republicans to deny him his place as your elected official. How DARE you deny a VIETNAM VET a job, you uppity ingrates!

Of course, it doesn't say much about the Rats' opinion of Georgians...that you guys are sooooo stupid that you all fell for the Republicans' shenanigans. It COULDN'T be that Cleland was doing a crappy job and you guys picked someone else, could it?

10 posted on 08/25/2004 2:31:58 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: hope
"...picked up a live American grenade while horsing around"

Huh? Gee, why hadn't I heard about that on CBS?

11 posted on 08/25/2004 2:32:12 PM PDT by theDentist ("John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute.")
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To: BluH2o

Oh, ok. Do you have any other information you'd like to add regarding this?


12 posted on 08/25/2004 2:32:17 PM PDT by hope (John Kerry is using the Mark Hacking recipe for disaster)
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To: hope
O.K. does this qualify for the Darwin Award or what?

No it qualifies for the Almost Darwin Award. He would have to been killed in order to qualify

13 posted on 08/25/2004 2:36:29 PM PDT by Kaslin (Was Kerry a hero? .......Yes for the North Vietnamese communist)
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To: hope

HOw did my beloved Dumb Dick Durbin miss attaching his signiture to that drivel?


14 posted on 08/25/2004 2:36:43 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (My Father was 10x the hero John Fraud Kerry is.)
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To: fuzzycat


Yes, but according to another thread you Georgians and the rest of us are still paying his salary because good ol' Pres. "Let's set a new tone" Bush appointed him to his $136,000/yr. job at the Export/Import Bank last year. Looks like it's a real easy job too, if he can be rolling around the ranch in Crawford today for the benefit of the partisan press. Shame on this pathetic grandstander.


15 posted on 08/25/2004 2:36:57 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: BluH2o
He picked up the grenade that had fallen off his, or anther soldiers webbing, while exiting a helicopter. Perhaps he didn't realize the pin had been jarred loose, thus arming the grenade, but horsing around with a grenade is not an accurate statement.

If you were horsing around with a grenade and it went off, what would you tell people 35 years later?

I have no idea what the real truth is, but he is a Democrat. Just because we all feel sorry he was so badly hurt doesn't mean we can't be a bit skeptical.

16 posted on 08/25/2004 2:37:03 PM PDT by narby (Bush: Genuine F-102 Fighter Jock)
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To: paul51
Does anyone know who are the nine senate dims that signed on?

Senators Sneezy, Grumpy, Sleepy, Dopey, Happy, Bashful, and Doc. Along with Moe and Curley...Larry was conspicuously absent.

17 posted on 08/25/2004 2:40:42 PM PDT by Snardius
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To: hope

Why didn't the Senate Minority Leader sign this letter?

Senator Daschle served during the Vietnam War for the Air Force Strategic Air Command.


18 posted on 08/25/2004 2:40:46 PM PDT by Republican Red (Is that a classified document in your pants Sandy or are you just glad to see me?)
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To: hope

Cleland can whine all he wants.

Meanwhile, "Unfit for Command" is sailing right up to #1 on all the best-seller lists.

Hey, Max, go play with a live one.


19 posted on 08/25/2004 2:40:57 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: hope
The senators signing the letter...

Thank you. A very impressive group. LOL

20 posted on 08/25/2004 2:43:04 PM PDT by paul51
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To: hope

I thought I heard today that Cleland was given a reply letter from President Bush when Cleland tried to deliver his letter.


21 posted on 08/25/2004 2:45:21 PM PDT by Laserman
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To: BluH2o; hope
While I was serving in Viet Nam with a non-combat aircraft repair company some guy from a barracks next to mine found a fired, but not detonated round from a M-79 grenade launcher.

While sitting at their bunks, another soldier asked to see it. It was tossed to him but slipped through his fingers and went off killing one and wounding a couple of others.

The soldier killed was from Hawaii.

The military reported to the newspaper that he was killed in an ambush just outside of where we were stationed (Vung Tau).

The point is, only Max Cleland and anyone who witnessed it really knows what happened and "horsing around" with a grenade is just as likely as not.

22 posted on 08/25/2004 2:45:34 PM PDT by lewislynn (Why do the same people who think "free trade" is the answer also want less foreign oil dependence?)
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To: hope

I have a 14 year old neighbor down the street who is partially deaf and has CP. She asked me, absolutely serious, "How could anyone vote for John Kerry?" Maybe the Bush campaign could set her up in some, CHEAP, EXPLOITATIVE advertisement to win votes. Or maybe NOT.


23 posted on 08/25/2004 2:46:12 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: hope

It looks like the only one of these senators who was anywhere near Vietnam is Carper, who was a Navy pilot who "flew in Southeast Asia during the Vietnam war."


24 posted on 08/25/2004 2:47:40 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: hope
Cleland, who became a triple amputee in Vietnam when he picked up a live American grenade while horsing around, had a message from nine Senate Democrats who wrote that Bush had "a special duty" to condemn attacks on Kerry's military record.

Did Kerry's message go off in Cleland's hand, too?

25 posted on 08/25/2004 2:54:15 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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To: hope

That's not true but it sounds better than "He threw the pin".


26 posted on 08/25/2004 2:54:21 PM PDT by longfellow (You're either with US or from Hollywood! Ultimateamerican.com)
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To: hope; AppyPappy; The Wizard

It's getting so I can recognize News Max and The Wizard thread-titles.

Is that a good thing... or a bad?

Dan


27 posted on 08/25/2004 2:56:16 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: kittymyrib
Bush appointed him to his $136,000/yr. job at the Export/Import Bank last year.

Sure take care of the enemy, but do nothing for Linda Tripp.

28 posted on 08/25/2004 2:57:19 PM PDT by itsahoot (Sometimes the truth hurts, sometimes it makes a difference, but not often.)
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To: hope

A group of Texas Vet met Cleland and ask him to deliver a letter to Kerry. It is reported Cleland refused.


29 posted on 08/25/2004 2:57:34 PM PDT by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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To: hope

Hey, this is Crawford, Texas. Company is always welcome. George should invite him out for some beer, bar-b-que, babes and bowling. Show some Texas style "Y'all (or whats left of y'all) Welcome. No need for politics in August in Texas.


30 posted on 08/25/2004 2:57:48 PM PDT by Blue Screen of Death (/i)
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To: Nick Danger

Interestingly enough, this is not the first time that John Kerry has exploited crippled Vietnam Vets for his own purposes, as seen in his VVAW march on Washington, D.C. circa 1971 (above - (C) J.F. Kerry, The New Soldier, 1972).

5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

31 posted on 08/25/2004 2:58:40 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Howlin
Campaigns Continue to Focus on Kerry's War Record
Jeff Mitchell/Reuters
Campaigns Continue to Focus on Kerry's War Record
Former Senator Max Cleland urged President Bush today to condemn TV ads challenging John Kerry's military record.
32 posted on 08/25/2004 2:59:44 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: kittymyrib

Are you serious???? Pres. Bush gave Max Cleland a JOB at the IMPORT/Export BanK?? Are you certain??


33 posted on 08/25/2004 3:01:39 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Max Cleland - still a dumbass

I appreciate Cleland's service and sympathize with his disabilities . . . but his actions in Vietnam doesn't raise his IQ one point or earn him a lifetime ban from criticism nor the honor of wearing the Dunce Lifetime Achievement Award he so gloriously earned in Vietnam.

But he and Lurch have a lot in common . . . they've both earned medals for injuries sustained by their own hands.

Cleland is a pathetic little man who has made a career out of the fact he blew himself apart.

34 posted on 08/25/2004 3:03:32 PM PDT by geedee (Love of country is like love of woman--he loves her best who seeks to bestow on her the highest good)
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To: hope

No, He didn't die.

What would have happened if the SS man had taken the letter, gone to the car and put sticker on it that said MOVEON.ORG, and returned it to max?

Just my twisted sense of humor ;-D


35 posted on 08/25/2004 3:03:37 PM PDT by DelphiUser
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To: justshutupandtakeit

both hands were busy trying to pull his head out of his *ss (he's my senator, too -- unfortunately)


36 posted on 08/25/2004 3:03:50 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: hope
Obviously there was some brain injury that wasn't reported in the incident.

It sickens me to see someone playing the pity card.

37 posted on 08/25/2004 3:04:00 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: LS; Perlstein; William McKinley; Sabertooth; section9; Travis McGee; Mark Felton

Please see the repeat of earlier JFK tactics as documented in posts #31 & #32 above.

5 Legislative Days Left Until The AWB Expires

38 posted on 08/25/2004 3:06:58 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Blue Screen of Death

I'm from Texas, and married men do not invite people out for "babes and bowling" -- get serious.


39 posted on 08/25/2004 3:07:57 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: hope

Asked why the president didn't accept his letter personally, Mr. Cleland reportedly replied, "I'm stumped".


40 posted on 08/25/2004 3:09:25 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: hope
And here is the response TO Kerry:

Letter to John Kerry

EXCERPT:

"We’re proud of our service in Vietnam. We served honorably in Vietnam and we were deeply hurt and offended by your comments when you came home.

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t build your convention and much of your campaign around your service in Vietnam, and then try to say that only those veterans who agree with you have a right to speak up. There is no double standard for our right to free speech. We all earned it.

You said in 1992 “we do not need to divide America over who served and how.” Yet you and your surrogates continue to criticize President Bush for his service as a fighter pilot in the National Guard."

41 posted on 08/25/2004 3:10:28 PM PDT by QQQQQ
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To: Ann Archy

A $136,000 Link (Cleland is a Bush Appointee)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1199420/posts


42 posted on 08/25/2004 3:11:26 PM PDT by QQQQQ
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To: justshutupandtakeit
HOw did my beloved Dumb Dick Durbin miss attaching his signiture to that drivel?

I don't know. I'm shocked his best buddy Carl Lenin didn't sign it either.

Lenin said being the Armed Services Chair(in 2001) is the same service as being a soldier.

43 posted on 08/25/2004 3:11:29 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A gun owner voting for John Kerry is like a chicken voting for Col. Saunders. (bye bye .30-30))
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To: hope
"The question is where is George Bush's honor. The question is where is his shame to attack a fellow veteran who has distinguished himself in combat. Regardless of the political combat involved, it's disgraceful."

It's disgraceful that Kerry disgraced our Military; it's even more disgraceful that Kerry now wants denounced and muzzled the outspoken few whom Kerry disgraced.

44 posted on 08/25/2004 3:13:47 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Ann Archy

Bush said he wanted to work with both dems and Repubs when he was running in 2k. It has been reported by many democrats that he has done nothing but divide and shut out the dems...guess that's BS too!


45 posted on 08/25/2004 3:14:16 PM PDT by hope (John Kerry is using the Mark Hacking recipe for disaster)
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To: hope

I assume the Democrats to whom you refer are "reporting" about Bush being "devisive" are those such as Daschole and his ilk?


46 posted on 08/25/2004 3:16:34 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

Yep


47 posted on 08/25/2004 3:18:13 PM PDT by hope (John Kerry is using the Mark Hacking recipe for disaster)
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To: Endeavor
Maybe married men from your neck of the woods don't have a sense of humor either. It is meant to be sarcastic. While married men from Texas don't go out for beer and babes, most triple amputees don't go bowling either. Duh.
48 posted on 08/25/2004 3:18:42 PM PDT by Blue Screen of Death (/i)
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To: hope

Thought so....Dashole is just the kind of "man" I'd like to have on my team /sarcasm


49 posted on 08/25/2004 3:19:27 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: hope

When we hear him complain or "report" about devisiveness, that sure is the pot calling the kettle black! : )


50 posted on 08/25/2004 3:20:32 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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