Posted on 08/25/2004 5:26:29 PM PDT by quantim
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry said Wednesday that civilian leaders in the White House and the Pentagon should be held accountable for abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison.
"Harry Truman had that sign on the desk and it said, 'The buck stops here,'" Kerry said. "The buck doesn't stop at the Pentagon."
Responding to an independent report that faulted all levels of the military for prisoner abuse, Kerry repeated his call for Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to resign and for President Bush to appoint an independent commission. He said the commission should investigate "all of the chain of abuses that took place, and why they took place, including the civilian side."
"We are a country that runs on civilian leadership," Kerry said at the top of a town hall meeting at Steamfitters Local 420 Union. "What is also normal is that you have accountability that runs through the civilian command, and it is absolutely left out of those reports. It's absent."
Bush campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt responded: "Today's political attack is just the latest example of John Kerry's willingness to say whatever he believes will benefit him politically."
A report released Tuesday by an independent panel led by former Defense Secretary James R. Schlesinger concluded that senior U.S. military leaders in Iraq and the Pentagon can be faulted for inattention to prisoner abuses, but it did not recommend that Rumsfeld step down.
Details of a second investigation, which focused on the military intelligence unit at Abu Ghraib prison during the abuses, were expected to be released Wednesday. That Army investigation, initially headed by Maj. Gen. George Fay, is expected to blame the intelligence unit and its commanders for some of the abuses at the Iraqi prison.
Kerry said both Rumsfeld and Bush should take responsibility. Minutes after he spoke at the town hall meeting, his campaign issued a statement from Kerry that said, "The time has come for our commander in chief to take charge."
Months before prisoner abuse in Iraq became known, Kerry called for Rumsfeld's resignation because of what he said were numerous mistakes in the prosecution of the war. In May, Kerry rejected concerns that replacing Rumsfeld could hurt the war effort and suggested any number of people could step in, including Republican Sens. John McCain of Arizona and John Warner of Virginia.
Later Wednesday, Kerry spoke to Wisconsin voters in the backyard of a Green Bay home. A woman rose and identified herself as a married mother of three who "came here to try to get a sense of who you are."
"Most of us are middle class," she said. "We clean our own houses and mow our own lawns. What is it about who you are that can help us understand whether you're really for real or not?"
Kerry said voters should judge him by his lifetime of public service. He said although he came from a "comfortable" background, his parents taught him the value of work and he unloaded trucks while in college and sold encyclopedias door to door. He also touted his choice to go to Vietnam "when others chose not to" and his anti-war activism after returning.
"I was compelled enough by what I've seen in war to try to end it so other people didn't have to go through what I'd gone through," Kerry said. "And I spent a number of years of my life working to do that at great risk and obviously, as you can see, with some controversy because some people didn't like it."
A television ad being run by the anti-Kerry Swift Boat Veterans for Truth criticizes Kerry's protests after the war.
Together, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin offer 31 of the 270 electoral college votes needed to win the presidency. Polls show the race nearly even in both states, though Kerry may be gaining ground in Pennsylvania.
Were the atrocites you admitted committing in Vietnam worse than those in Abu Ghraib?
They won't give that story up, even if none of us believed Rumsfeld or Bush were involved. They lost momentum on that one a long time ago though, despite all their efforts to keep it a BIG scandal.
They try, though, and the media will cooperate.
Kerry should be held responsible for certain abuses at the Hanoi Hilton.
Do Aholes and hypocrites ever come any bigger than this?
The last time the media rode this non-story an American's head was cut off. Whose side are they on? They have blood on their hands.
Senator, how does that compare to putting women's underwear on a suspected terrorist's head.
More desperate accusations from the man who has no better ideas.
Kerry is a certified lunatic. The WH should be laughing off anything Kerry comes up with and simply point out that Kerry is too unstable to be President. Can you imagine this guy with nukes?
After this election, Kerry will become as insignificant as Al Gore.
(This graphic "borrowed" from MyTwoCents)
Wow.
Kerry accusing the military of atrocities yet again.
Apparently, he is trying to short up his base, no?
Kerry says..Kerry says...Kerry says....ad nauseum. Hollow man.
Just PERFECT!
Can we say, "grasping at straws?" How pathetic.
I thought that it was proven that kerry asked for a student deferment and was denied. He never volunteered to go to Viet Nam
LOL
Who again is accountable for cutting off heads ears and electrifying genitals ? oh yea YOU Mr Kerry SCUMBAG !
John Kerry's Band of Brothers
This from a guy who admitted engaging in atrocities and was never held accountable.
When Kerry burned down huts it was Lyndon Johnson's fault.
Doesn't mean you gotta be shrill about it...
It was just a few bad apples!
Yeah, that'll work!
Meanwhile...
It's my understanding that Barbra Streisand's stepfather used to tell her she was 'too ugly for ice cream.' Well, if she was too ugly for it, jk is too stupid for it.
Hey sKerry! Put a cork in it!
By the way, have you gotten around to signing that Form 180 yet?
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I do believe that the time is coming that the WH will simply be able to laugh at sKerry and that whole campaign...
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So much for Kerry wanting to move on from discussing Vietnam.
We must have a million troops. So if any of those commit a crime the Commander in Chief should resign? We'd never have a president in office. Kerry is a nut.
I'm sure that W is also responsible, in some way, for a star going supernova, 10 million light years away.
Don't you wish you were privy to the sKerry camp's Internal polls? ... LoL ...
Dem candidates at this point in a campaign are usually trying to appeal as moderates and yet Kerry is still stuck in his phoney Dean mode (or is it a phoney Al Gore macho attack mode). Middle America isn't buying it and will not elect this version of desperate Kerry. He's done unless Bush makes more mistakes and/or Kerry jumps back to the middle and acts grown-up.
Evidently his supply of Ho Chi Minh "Tea" is continuously replenished.
No it wasn't. It was Nixon's fault. Afterall, it was Nixon who sent drizzledrawers to Cambodia.
FMCDH(BITS)
There must be somebody, somebody, out there in America, who has gotten sick after consuming Heinz ketchup. Where is a sleazy lawyer when you need one? Get Sick Person to court, and have Sleazy Lawyer read off Kerry's quote here.
For dramatic effect, Sleazy Lawyer can pound the table and declare...
"Mister Heinz, the buck does NOT stop at Heinz Ketchup! YOU ARE LIABLE for this poor victim's suffering! The buck stops with YOU!!!"
A self confessed War Criminal pretends to be upset about terrorists being hazed.
He didn't seem so concerned when his testimony was causing agony to our men in POW camps in 1971.......now he's concerned about humiliation (I refuse to call it torture) of those who would kill our service men? One thing I gotta say about Kerry..........he's not only an oportunistic liar, he's a big dreamer.
Adios.
Oh??
One word for you Democrap punks: WACO
Janet Reno... "The buck stops here"..... and did NOTHING.
80 Americans slaughterd by these Dem pukes.
LOL!
Kerry, of course, understands the uutter impracticality, not to mention the utter stupidity of stating that the "the buck stops here" line applies to EVERY SINGLE THING THAT ANYONE DOES while any given person is president.
No one believes that a president Kerry would even CONSIDER resigning under the same circumstances, and Kerry couldn't convince anyone that he would. Not even his own mother. This is as good a definition of lying, mealy mouthed hypocrite as I have ever seen.
Back then they blamed it on the johnson, nowadays they blame it on the bush!
It seems that according to Kerry doctrine, if my grass is a little too tall for the regulations in my city, it's his fault, and he would have to take responsibility, and resign/be impeached...
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