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KERRY JUST TANKED IN THE IOWA ELECTRONIC MARKET!!!
Iowa Electronic Market ^ | August 25th, 2004

Posted on 08/25/2004 10:27:40 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis

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To: flashbunny
It's probably the new LA slimes poll showing bush with a lead...people know that if they show a 3 pint bush lead, it's probably at least double that.

Careful, it may not be a true increase at all! If they (the Democrooks in the media) raise the bar enough before the convention, it might look like Bush had as little bounce as Kerry did after his fiasco..

61 posted on 08/25/2004 11:21:12 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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To: Remember_Salamis
Gen. Wes Clark

And I remember reading how he tried to order the Brits to fire on Russia, but they refused to start WWIII just because he wanted them to. That led to his early retirement.

62 posted on 08/25/2004 11:22:35 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Great news!

Let's hope this is a breakthrough and Bush will keep going up and Kerry down from here on out.


63 posted on 08/25/2004 11:23:33 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: jnarcus
Can you imagine if Gore had been pres at Sept 11? We would still be trying to find terrorist connections in the debris of the towers, wringing our hands, and getting our butts kicked everywhere

We'd be disarmed and still under marshal law.

64 posted on 08/25/2004 11:24:38 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: spyone

>>Kerry's wife will then divorce him and hook up with Howard Dean.

I'll see that one and raise you...

...Terrayyza dumps Stiff-vet, marries Shrillary, and they BOTH come back at us in ought-eight!


65 posted on 08/25/2004 11:27:22 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer

Anyone who doesn't believe the Swift Boat Vets are ripping moi Kerry a new one, has a damaged CNS system.


66 posted on 08/25/2004 11:28:16 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://swift1.he.net/~swiftvet/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets")
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To: Remember_Salamis

What is the depth and volume in this market? A single large kerry seller hitting bids could account for this.


67 posted on 08/25/2004 11:45:15 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Flashlight

"I would quickly guess that these are two markests that are traded separately, so there's nothing to prevent both from trading over .5 (especially over a very short period - the prices couldn't stay that high, because any buyer would see they were overpriced and wait for them to come down)."

If there is any depth in the market, arbs would keep fair value of the 2 contracts at max .99-1.01...assuming you can short them.


68 posted on 08/25/2004 11:48:07 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

"What is the depth and volume in this market? A single large kerry seller hitting bids could account for this."

-- That's not possible. There are two SEPARATE contracts here, one for Bush and one for Kerry. Each moved in almost exactly opposite directions.


69 posted on 08/25/2004 11:48:32 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Yep. And the markets are VERY reliable indicators of real world trends. The polls usually lag behind them a couple of weeks.


70 posted on 08/25/2004 11:49:57 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Bogey78O
Tradesports gve him a HUGE bump today too:

BUSH

KERRY


71 posted on 08/25/2004 11:51:09 PM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Remember_Salamis

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-- That's not possible. There are two SEPARATE contracts here, one for Bush and one for Kerry. Each moved in almost exactly opposite directions."

In a liquid active market (I don't know if this qualifies),having two related instruments with a combined expiration value of 1 means as a seller is hitting one contract, the total contract value will drop below 1.00 and both contracts should receive buy interest as a result, but particularly the one not being hit. Arbs may try to wait until the kerry contract quits downticking before buying that side of the trade.

This may be academic. As I said, I don't know open interest, volume, market depth and transaction costs for these contracts, and it may be that what I am saying is much less relevant here.


72 posted on 08/25/2004 11:53:06 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: spyone
This election is going to be a landslide. Kerry's wife will then divorce him and hook up with Howard Dean.

"YYYEEEAAAAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!"

73 posted on 08/26/2004 12:27:18 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: WoofDog123
In a liquid active market (I don't know if this qualifies),having two related instruments with a combined expiration value of 1 means as a seller is hitting one contract, the total contract value will drop below 1.00 and both contracts should receive buy interest as a result, but particularly the one not being hit. Arbs may try to wait until the kerry contract quits downticking before buying that side of the trade.

Another thing to note is that if the combined value falls much below $1, some people who might not otherwise trade may buy shares of both in equal quantities, since such a move would be 99.999% certain to win. For example, if Kerry were at $0.45 and Bush were at $0.50, I could buy 100 shares of each for a total of $95, and collect $100 after the election whether Bush or Kerry won.

74 posted on 08/26/2004 12:37:47 AM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: supercat

Yes, but there are some overlaps that quickly close, as you can see inthe chart. Call it a "lag".


75 posted on 08/26/2004 12:40:25 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: onyx

Thanks for pointing that out. I hadn't seen it when I wrote my thoughts. I am glad to know I am not alone with those thoughts. ;)


76 posted on 08/26/2004 12:43:26 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: onyx

This should tell you how that poll was weighted, considering Dems shouldn't be weighted more than 3-4 % over 'Pubs:

Independents split evenly, so the cancel each other out.

3% of Republicans voting for Kerry

15% of Dems voting for Bush ---\\\----Yet Bush is only up by 3.

Somebody with some math skills can give you an idea, but they definitely overweighed Dems. Again. I'd add a comfortable 4% to Bush's total.
Plus, it was only registered voters, so add 2-3 % on top of that...

$h!t! That's 58-37 Bush. That's fricken landslide territory....




77 posted on 08/26/2004 12:44:22 AM PDT by stands2reason (RICH LIBERAL n. - a man who has his cake, eats his cake, and complains that other people have cake.)
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To: spokeshave

Unless he dies, the first ballot mandatory votes go to Kerry.


78 posted on 08/26/2004 12:47:35 AM PDT by deadeye2
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To: BradyLS

LOL!!!


79 posted on 08/26/2004 12:51:07 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Defender2

Was McPeak in the boat?


80 posted on 08/26/2004 1:04:59 AM PDT by deadeye2
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