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BUSH CAMP SAYS OLYMPIC AD WILL STAY UP
ABC News ^ | 8/26/04 | Ann Compton

Posted on 08/26/2004 8:13:09 AM PDT by gopwinsin04

The Bush campaign insists that it is on very firm legal ground in their depiction of the olympics in their ad, reports ABC News Ann Compton.

When the olympics are over, the campaign will take the ad down, as scheduled.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ads; gwb2004; ioc; olympics
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To: lugsoul
Sink, if these guys didn't come along every four years and send out legal threats to folks like the "Olympic Car Wash" and "Olympic Pizza" and hotels offering their "Olympic Weekend Package", then you might be able to call it "political posturing."

It's silly, and I can't believe someone as intelligent as you would be defending it.

But, then, you make your money off this kind of stuff.

41 posted on 08/26/2004 9:03:51 AM PDT by sinkspur ("What's the point in being Pope if I can't wear the tiara?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: xzins
Silly. Like this entire thread.

"You are using the word "olympics" right now. Are you infringing on the copyright. Of course not."

Ummm... I am not using it to advertise. I am not using it for promotion. Get a grip.

Okay, whatever, you are all correct. I'm GLAD the Prez told those commie wimps like Ueberroth to shove it. Just goes to show that the bulge in those jeans ain't no sock. And when GM complains about his ads referring to Cheney as the "Cadillac" of vice-presidents, I hope he reminds them of the military might at his disposal and snaps them back into line.

42 posted on 08/26/2004 9:07:54 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: On the Road to Serfdom

Jeez. This is not a news story. It is not a speech. It is not a post on the internet. It is not a dictionary. It is an ADVERTISEMENT.


43 posted on 08/26/2004 9:09:26 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: lugsoul
get a grip

Get a dictionary.

44 posted on 08/26/2004 9:12:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: sinkspur

just a little clarification, sink. I'm not defending the OCs actions - though they do have a RIGHT to do it, and a legal right at that. I'm just amazed that the lockstep is so rigid that people actually get a testosterone boost from the campaign refusing to acknowledge that legal right. "he's got a pair, and he knows how to use them". Yeah. "We won't stop running the ad now, but we are stopping in three days so let us show how tough we are by telling you no."


45 posted on 08/26/2004 9:13:24 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: xzins

Jeez. This is not a news story. It is not a speech. It is not a post on the internet. It is not a dictionary. It is an ADVERTISEMENT.



46 posted on 08/26/2004 9:13:50 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: lugsoul

It is a dictionary word. It is a historic word. It is a word for a specific location and set of athletic events.

And the bottom line is that it is NOT a copyright infringement. If it were, they'd sue. If it were, the President's lawyers would tell him to pull the ad.

No one's suing and no one's pulling, so we must have some agreement that it's not a copyright infringement and is, instead, legitimate use of a common word.

You realize, don't you, that without a lawsuit or a pulled ad that your argument evaporates?


47 posted on 08/26/2004 9:18:18 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: xzins

Exactly.

If the Olympic Committee has a problem with this, call out the lawyers and Bring It On.

They won't because they can't. Euroweeni alert.


48 posted on 08/26/2004 9:19:51 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: lugsoul
And your background in intellectual property law is what, exactly?

More than yours, if you think you can use the terms trademark and copyright interchangeably.

49 posted on 08/26/2004 9:21:30 AM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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To: lugsoul
They look cheap and petty telling the President of the United States that he cannot point out that two nations are now free and participating in the Olympics.

The USOC should be working with the IOC to get the judging fiasco under control so that the games aren't compromised any more than they already are instead of worrying about getting a little free publicity from the leader of the free world.

50 posted on 08/26/2004 9:21:56 AM PDT by sinkspur ("What's the point in being Pope if I can't wear the tiara?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: xzins
"No one's suing and no one's pulling, so we must have some agreement that it's not a copyright infringement and is, instead, legitimate use of a common word."

A perfect example of your typical lack of logic. Can you read? There are 3 days left before they pull it. No one is going to get anything done in the legal arena in that time frame. Then it is moot.

For future reference, since you seem to lack an understanding of this basic point - the failure of one to exercise a legal right, or the decision not to pursue a legal right, DOES NOT MEAN that the right does not exist.

If your argument had even a shred of validity, all those unauthorized businesses who have been targeted by the USOC could just tell them to pound sand and it would be no problem.

51 posted on 08/26/2004 9:22:45 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: gopwinsin04
When the olympics are over, the campaign will take the ad down, as scheduled.

Nice to see some guts out of the RNC. Screw the scumbag "USOC".
I have no doubt that they wouldn't make a peep if it was a Kerry ad.

52 posted on 08/26/2004 9:22:59 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: sinkspur

And that is apropos of what? Oh, yes. Nothing.


53 posted on 08/26/2004 9:24:10 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: Lancey Howard

There isn't even a hint of a lawsuit mentioned and if they thought they could sue, they would have mentioned it to further embarrass the Bush administration.

And you're right...if it was for the Kerry campaign, they wouldn't make a peep.


54 posted on 08/26/2004 9:25:22 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Yep. They are he-men. I've heard they can hold their hands over a candle flame for, like, a whole minute.


55 posted on 08/26/2004 9:25:31 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: lugsoul
And that is apropos of what?

That the USOC is posturing. Nothing more.

56 posted on 08/26/2004 9:26:42 AM PDT by sinkspur ("What's the point in being Pope if I can't wear the tiara?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: kevkrom
I didn't - the USOC has both rights for different aspects. And you made a completely incorrect statment about the nature of intent required for a trademark claim.

So, the answer to the question is "none," right?

57 posted on 08/26/2004 9:27:04 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: gopwinsin04
Are you referring to the Butt Crack Olympics? I have seen more female butts in the past couple of weeks than during my 30 years of marriage and dating.

I really think that the next Olympics should feature Female Mud wrestling along with (for the benefit of middle aged male athlete's) Belching and Farting

That would be more in-line with where the quality of the Olympics is going.
58 posted on 08/26/2004 9:27:09 AM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gultch.)
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To: lugsoul

What a tap-dance.

We'll wait for the lawsuit to be filed. If they've been infringed they can file it anytime they like. It will have been a matter of record splashed across countless TV screens nationwide. They have recorded, irrefutable proof.

Waiting......

Waiting......

(Damn....did you see how fast that argument disappeared down the old flusher?!!)


59 posted on 08/26/2004 9:27:24 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: sinkspur

"We're on very firm legal ground to mention the Olympics, to make a factual point in a political advertisement," said BC'04 spokesman Scott Stanzel... when the olympics is over the campaign will take the ad down, as scheduled.

You are absolutely correct; the USOC is posturing.

Anyone who believes the White House hasn't gotten the best legal advice available in the country is naive and uninformed.


60 posted on 08/26/2004 9:28:40 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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