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Help me decide if my 10 year old should use Ritalin

Posted on 08/27/2004 11:41:39 AM PDT by Joe Republc

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To: Joe Republc

So you have to make a serious decision about your life and your son's health and you go to a political web site to make your decision? Good choice.


41 posted on 08/27/2004 11:55:57 AM PDT by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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To: Joe Republc

I was perscribed Ritalin at about that age, and I feel that it was a mistake. Sure, I have always had a little more trouble focusing my attention on what someone wants from me (i.e. a teacher, etc), but my ADD also came with a great benefit in that I can focus intently for long periods of time on things that are important to me. My recommendation would be to work with your son to work on techniques that allow him to get by without the medication (structured study times, copious notes, an appointment/schedule/homework book, whatever it takes).

Using Ritalin made it so that I functioned un-naturally and as a result it wasn't until I was about 20 that I finally learned to control myself.

There are some extreme cases where Ritalin is necessary, but I think it is one of the most over-perscribed drugs on the market. People have been growing up learning to live with ADD for thousands of years without Ritalin and I see no need to change that.

Teachers of course are big fans of the stuff, since it makes your child more easily controlled, but is that what you really want?

I've found ADD to be a great benefit, and I've seen that most of the highly successful people that I've worked with have ADD and have simply learned how to properly utilize it. Out of the top three troubleshooters at my last tech job (QA Engineer & Level 3 Tech Support, all three of us had moderate to severe ADD.

Not only do I view it as an advantage, but I don't view it as a disorder at all. With the number of people being "diagnosed" with this disorder, it would seem to me that it is just a way of learning and a part of your mental makeup. The problem is that the schools just don't want to take the time/effort to learn how to teach kids with ADD, they just want to drug them into normalacy.

In the end it is a decision for you and your wife to make, but I would suggest a lot of study on the situation before you decide to resort to chemical means to change the thought-patterns and behavior of your child. Hope this helps in some way.


42 posted on 08/27/2004 11:56:31 AM PDT by sc2_ct (This is the way the world ends... not with a bang but a whimper)
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To: Joe Republc
Whenever any drugs are prescribed to your child the first reaction should be no. These drugs can and do have life long effects, varying in severity person to person.

This is one of those life decision that should be considered carefully, informing yourself, speaking to more then one doctor and forcing them to make the case for medication.

I do not even buy a car without checking Consumer Reports, Kelly Blue Book, asking around and visiting multiple dealerships. Does a child deserve less?
43 posted on 08/27/2004 11:57:38 AM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: Joe Republc
I guess today is the day to talk about my grandkids:'). My THREE y/o went with her mom to a Navy doctor for her yearly check up. She showed her butt. This docor after observing her for a few minutes prescribed this. My DILs mom and I had a fit. She took her to another pediatrian who suggested holding off for awhile and recommended some structure and diet changes and more outside play time. She's doing much better.

My hyper 4 y/o grandson acts like a monkey. He just started a Christian private kindergarten. Two times sitting in the room with the teacher while everyone else went outside to play checked his act.

I don't know your circumstances but a second opinion is your right and some kids require medication but little boys (even at 10) are not made to sit at a desk all day quietly when they have the whole world to explore. :')

44 posted on 08/27/2004 11:58:16 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Joe Republc
What are the diagnostic tests for the condition? Ask to see the actual test results. They will probably turn out to be nothing more than a teacher's opinion.

What are the long-term benefits of drug therapy? None demonstrated, I believe.

What side effects are there with long-term use? Short stature and low self-confidence, I believe.

What dosages have been shown to improve alertness, and what dosages are associated instead with sedative effects?

What other treatments have been shown to be effective? Consistent training and close supervision, I believe.


In order to develop self-control, an ADD child needs more instruction from teachers and parents,but when they are given drugs to control the condition they actually tend to get less instruction than other children.

The literature available from the doctor's office is just drug company advertising. Research is often funded by drug companies. You can easily find something on the internet to back up any opinion pro or con on the matter.

45 posted on 08/27/2004 11:58:29 AM PDT by Marylander
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To: Joe Brower

Tin foil hat firmly attached here: Suppose current Ritalin use precludes future firearms ownership. Would you put it past the AMA (or Psychiatric Council or whatever it is) and politicians? Long term dis-armament plan?


46 posted on 08/27/2004 11:58:29 AM PDT by Hard Way
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To: Blzbba

This has got to be the most logical solution EVER!!!

Great post!


47 posted on 08/27/2004 11:58:45 AM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second (Conservative Anti-Smoker))
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To: Blzbba

It is very important to find a DR. who knows how to works with kids who really do have this problem. A trial of medication can often be the real test of the presence of ADHD. There is a book that is helpful also, "over coming underachieving" it has some real helps with kids are struggling.


48 posted on 08/27/2004 11:58:50 AM PDT by truthingod
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To: Joe Republc

Take it from a former ADHD kid and Ritalin user, the only thing Ritalin does is make him lazy so he doesnt interfere with the class. It's only there for the teacher, who probably isn't teaching a class interesting enough for your child anyway.

Homeschool your child if possible, or see if you have a curriculum completion based private school. I used to study hard so I could finish the day's work and then read the rest of the time. Your child is possibly too fast of a learner for the other kids in his class, I know I was.


49 posted on 08/27/2004 11:58:57 AM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: Joe Republc

My oldest of 4 daughters is ADHD and Bi-polar. We went through a long period deciding to use the ritalin after seeking alternatives, ie, the Feingold diet.

THANK GOD we started her on it, as her life has dramatically improved.

I strongly suggest you go to someone who is trained to give a proper diagnosis through a series of tests and multiple visits.

Clearly it is overprescribed in the U.S. , but if your child can improve school and social wise, it will be well worth it to him and your relationship as a family.


50 posted on 08/27/2004 11:59:36 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance ( "Stay safe in the "sandbox", cuz!)
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To: Joe Republc

Just say NO!


51 posted on 08/27/2004 12:00:19 PM PDT by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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To: Joe Republc
My daughter has been on Ritalin, and now Concerta. It has been a wonder drug for her. We tried medication as a last resort, after therapy and dietary changes.

For all those who say not to medicate, do you have a child with ADD/ADHD? Because unless you have, you are in not much of a position to shun these drugs unless you have LIVED with a ADD child.

52 posted on 08/27/2004 12:00:28 PM PDT by crv16
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To: Blzbba
Yeah, you might have to spend $150 or so on this experiment, but you'll easily determine if your child is either ADD-impaired or just bored.

Of course, sometimes this is already the problem. The electronic stimulation of the brain with video games is almost like a drug....and withdrawal sure seems to create ADD/ADHD symptoms.

Yes, I know...totally anecdotal and unscientific. However, I can definitely tell the difference in my son's behavior if he's spent all week at Grandma's watching TV and playing video games - he's like a giant crack baby. After a few days being weaned off of the electronic overdose, he reverts back to being a reasonable well-behaved child.
53 posted on 08/27/2004 12:00:38 PM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: Joe Republc
What sort of activities is he part of?

Karate and football helped my 10 year old nephew greatly. he has done a complete 180 over the past year.

I've heard food dyes and sugard affects some kids too. I personally notice a change in my 5 year old daughter when she has red food dye (as in Kool-aid).

54 posted on 08/27/2004 12:00:52 PM PDT by cdefreese
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To: zeebee

So you would not give an inhaler to a kid with asthma? In properly diagnoszed cases, it corrects an imbalance that is not affected by diet.


55 posted on 08/27/2004 12:00:59 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance ( "Stay safe in the "sandbox", cuz!)
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To: Blzbba
Somebody could start a company proposing what you just came up with. It doesn't take a genius to figure out if a kid has ADD or any of the other concocted disorders that have been found in the last few years.

Geez, the way our schools and government thinks, they would have you believe that the whole populace was a bunch of drolling, blithering, out of control, idiots unable to help themselves. When in fact it's them!!


56 posted on 08/27/2004 12:01:04 PM PDT by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: Joe Republc
Pumping chemicals into children until they become docile automatons seems to be the in thing these days. Personally, I'd go to two or three independant doctors to see if this is a genuine problem, or simply normal childhood. I'd make sure one of those doctors is from a fairly small practice. I've found that the small-time doctors tend to be a little less trendy and a bit more humble than their big-time counterparts. If everyone seems to agree that your child has a genuine medical condition, then I suppose I'd have to agree that he needs medication to help with that.
57 posted on 08/27/2004 12:01:07 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Conservatism begins at home. Security begins at the border. Please, someone, secure our borders.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

First...make sure of the diagnosis; try diet, etc.
My daughter was on Ritalin for her elementary school years but I decided to take off when she reached 6th grade...it did help her concentrate (Two weeks on Ritalin and she was out of remedial reading)
As she reached middle school, she "switched classes" every 45 minutes and could maintain her concentration. She is now 18, graduated as a honor student, doesn't do drugs or drink, and is generally a great kid. Though she still has symptoms (disorganized, etc) the medicine helped her to "make up" the gaps in her learning early on.
It's certainly not the FIRST choice;
I've heard that there are some foods that promote "dopamine" production which is what ADD kids lack..you might want to look into that.


58 posted on 08/27/2004 12:02:11 PM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: July 4th

What in the world would a dentist know about Ritalin? Why would you accept his opinion on the matter?


59 posted on 08/27/2004 12:02:12 PM PDT by truthingod
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To: jbeachgrl5

WRONG. When properly diagnosed, ritalin can be a lifesaver. To categorically deny medications without facts if pure foolishness. I do not, however, suggest a parent make the choice blindly.


60 posted on 08/27/2004 12:02:37 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance ( "Stay safe in the "sandbox", cuz!)
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