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Driver's Licenses for Illegal Aliens Bill PASSES Again (California State Senate)
The John and Ken Show (KFI 64.0 am, Los Angeles) | truthkeeper

Posted on 08/27/2004 5:34:34 PM PDT by truthkeeper

Well guys, "One Bill Gil" Cedillo snuck this monstrosity in as an attachment to some bill the state senate just HAD to pass. (The official story, anyway.) John and Ken just announced that it passed 21 - 14 moments ago, despite an impassioned, intelligent plea against it by Tom McClintock. The bill now moves on the entire assembly, where it is also expected to pass.

So it looks like Arnold will have a bill to either sign or veto after all.

Once more into the breach.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab2895; aliens; driverslicense; driverslicenses; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; insanity; sb1160
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To: television is just wrong

"????"

Sorry, you replied to my "Yes. You are a "cost.""

It's a sarcastic comment how Americans are treated.


21 posted on 08/27/2004 6:18:18 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: truthkeeper

"...despite an impassioned, intelligent plea against it by Tom McClintock."

Once again Tom proves his effectivness ...


22 posted on 08/27/2004 6:18:40 PM PDT by RS (Just because the SwiftVets are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: television is just wrong

I think the answer to your question is abundantly clear. We're here to pay the bills and be told that we're not intelligent enough to comprehend the big picture.

I may not like reality, but at least I know what reality is.


23 posted on 08/27/2004 6:20:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: FairOpinion

"Does the CA governor have line item veto? "

Dosen't matter, whatever the damn bill they pasted it onto it should be vetoed -

Veto the whole thing Arnold - force THEM to go back and pass the "must-pass" again...


24 posted on 08/27/2004 6:21:31 PM PDT by RS (Just because the SwiftVets are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: DoughtyOne

While they are in the ivory tower out of touch with the reality of what we deal with.


25 posted on 08/27/2004 6:23:47 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: truthkeeper
Did they have to use "ghost votes" to get this one? Last night they "revoted" a ban on .50 firearms. It initially failed 36 to 37. On the "revote", the RATS walked over to empty desks (missing assembly members) and voted yes. Major league fraud.

Arnold is anti-gun, so I expect him to sign the fraudulently passed bill.

26 posted on 08/27/2004 6:25:33 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: television is just wrong

...exactly right.


27 posted on 08/27/2004 6:26:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Myrddin
Did they have to use "ghost votes" to get this one

Looks like it was another use of the "gut and amend" process, which has been controversial for years since it bypasses all of the public comment rights that are afforded by the operation of the committee process. (But since when do the Dems believe in hearing what we, the "ignorant public" have to say?) The Assembly's been standing by to receive this bill all afternoon.

28 posted on 08/27/2004 6:31:20 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: ElkGroveDan

AB 2895 was a domestic violence bill stuck in the Senate Appropriations committee. Did they spring it out of committee today prior to doing the gut and amend? If so, there were two votes.


29 posted on 08/27/2004 6:38:18 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: B4Ranch; madfly; FITZ; Reaganwuzthebest; hsmomx3; Joe Hadenuf; 4Freedom; Ajnin; Marine Inspector; ..

Folks, this bill has little or nothing to do with driving. You are not going to see a rush of aliens heading to driving school or buying insurance.

Cedillo still insists there can be no distinguishing mark on the license indicating illegal status. Also, all it takes to get one is a damn Matriculas Consulares -- and even the Mexican government doesn't accept them as legit ID.

This is about putting what passes as our defacto national ID into the hands of illegal aliens so they can hide in plain sight.


30 posted on 08/27/2004 6:40:54 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: PeterFinn

TELL YOUR STATE LEGISLATURES TO >>> BAN <<< CALIFORNIA LICENSEES FROM DRIVING IN THEIR STATES!!!!!


... and don't forget the other States that already allow them to get licenses... North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee, Utah and Texas


31 posted on 08/27/2004 6:41:33 PM PDT by RS (Just because the SwiftVets are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Cedillo moved to change ALL the language in the bill in committee. Then Senate rules sent the bill directly to the Senate floor "without Reference to File (worf as they call it here) which means they take it up immediately. Since it has been ammended it needs to go back to the Assembly. I believe it is in Assembly Public Safety right now, and before the night is out it will be voted on by the floor (and it will pass, they have the votes).


32 posted on 08/27/2004 6:44:16 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: truthkeeper

Everyone in California... time to call Arnold and remind him what happened to Davis when he went against the will of the vast majority on this issue.


33 posted on 08/27/2004 6:47:23 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: ElkGroveDan

I don't doubt that they have the votes. The debate should be interesting, though. It appears they're in recess until 7:15 at the moment.


34 posted on 08/27/2004 6:48:17 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: PeterFinn

What about a statewide referendum banning drivers liscences for illegal aliens? I think that would be prevent the legislative 'Rats from passing stuff like this.


35 posted on 08/27/2004 6:49:49 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: RS

If Arnold does not veto this, a California license can and will be considered useless as identification.

Odd timing on this isn't it -- just before the GOP convention where Arnold is supposed to be a keynote speaker.


36 posted on 08/27/2004 6:51:11 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Those recesses are to hold impromptu committee hearings. My guess is they are passing AB 2895 out of Asm Pub Safety right about now. I'll go check as soon as the Sen breaks and post back here.


37 posted on 08/27/2004 6:51:37 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
This is about putting what passes as our defacto national ID into the hands of illegal aliens so they can hide in plain sight.

That's it.

38 posted on 08/27/2004 6:55:08 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Shermy
This is what happens when a certain sort of criminal reaches critical mass. Their criminality becomes legalized.
39 posted on 08/27/2004 6:55:10 PM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Thanks much.

With a 21 - 14 vote, it couldn't have been an urgency measure, right? I'm still in the process of learning my way around that operation up there, so I'm often surprised by the disparity between the language of the rules and their practical application, but I think that one's still intact. True?


40 posted on 08/27/2004 6:56:39 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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