Posted on 08/27/2004 6:22:46 PM PDT by Cableguy
Bob Dornan (R) and Pat Kadell (D) were just on Fox's Hannity & Colmes debating Kerry's predicament. Bob Dornan went on a savage attack, showing burned US flag and VC/Communist flags that were burned by Kerry's anti-war group in 1971. Dornan also wanted Fox to have anti-Kerry widows from the Vietnam war. Kadell was actually rational and his analysis I thought were excellent and on point. Kadell bascially said that Kerry/Democrats made a mistake making Kerry's Vietnam service the cornerstone of his campaign instead of talking about the issues.
Pat Cadell is always logical and fair in his analysis, thats why the dems dont really use him anymore.
WOW that was explosive! :) do you think Dornan thinks Kerry is Unfit For Command? :^)
I think these veterans have earned their right -more than most Americans - to have their say.
Dornan was awesome ... and Sen Glenn who followed is so totally clueless. How can a Senator get on TV and quote what he's read in the newspaper as his source of information? Probably reads the NYT. Barf.
Sen Glenn who followed is so totally clueless. How can a Senator get on TV and quote what he's read in the newspaper as his source of information? Probably reads the NYT. Barf.Heroism 40 years ago does not make him any less dishonorable today.
Apprently, what he had was The 'Left' Stuff.
I thought Dornan was awesome also, had to yell to be heard.
We are all going to have to yell to be heard, they are trying to silence us.
Why is there so much apathy in this country.
Speak Up America!!!!!!!!!!!
As soon as I saw Dornan was going to be on, I knew we were in for a treat !
He did not disappoint.
Besides waving the remnants of communist flags that flew within inches of Kerry's head at the VVAW rally- Dornan showed pictures of POWs that suffered because of Kerry.
Dornan named the wife of a POW who wants to tell her late husband's story regarding Kerry.
Interesting fact-Dornan shadowed Kerry that day in DC during Kerry's VVAW rally and afterwards followed him whenever he could.
Dornan knew 36 years ago that Kerry was a scumbag-only wish he had taken pictures.
BTW- From Dornan's Bio-
After graduating from Loyola High School in Los Angeles in 1950 and attending Loyola University until 1953, Dornan, at age 19, volunteered for service in the United States Air Force. After earning his silver wings, Dornan went on to serve as a fighter pilot with the world's first supersonic jet fighter wing. In 1958, Dornan left active duty and joined the California Air National Guard as a fighter pilot and then the U.S. Air Force Reserve as a rescue seaplane pilot and an intelligence officer, achieving the rank of captain. He survived two F-86 Sabrejet emergency parachute ejections as well as a smooth "dead stick" forced-landing of an F-100 "Supersabre" on a desert dry lake bed.
Dornan has piloted every aircraft (except the F-117) in the U.S. military arsenal, including the B-2 "Spirit," B-1 "Lancer," U-2, SR-71 "Blackbird," AV-8 "Harrier," and F-15E "Eagle" as well as the Israeli "Kfir," and Israeli F-15 and F-16, the British "Tornado," "Harrier," and "Hawk," and the French "Mirage." In 1994 Dornan flew with the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds.
Dornan agrees with me and not with O'Reilly-this ain't going away anytime soon.
ROFL!!!!
Kerry is unfit for the human race.
ASA-'69-'71.
Kerry is hell in skin! Damn him for what he did to this country! He screwed so many people, I knew many of them.
Who will believe that from Kerry?
"Pat Cadell is always logical and fair in his analysis, thats why the dems dont really use him anymore."
AGREE. And this is also why he is not on Hardball anymore.
Glenn was despised by his fellow astronauts and it's clear they had good reason.
Dornan is sane. He's awesome. Loves America, stands tall and doesn't take any crap from flah burning lefty commie lovers like Alan Colmes and John Kerry.
Are you saying that the VVAW burned both teh American and the VC flags, or did they burn the American flag and wave the VC flag?
WE don't have any control over this. All we can do is stand on the sidelines and cheer. This is between the Vietnam vets and Kerry. This fight has been a long time coming.
Caddell said it was bad to bring this back up. I don't agree. There are unheale wounds and the reason they remain unhealed is because the vets were forced to stuff all this inside and not talk about it. Time to let all the poison out.
"The question is: are we going to far with this attack on Kerry? Can this backfire? Does Bob Dornan seem like a sane man or a crazy man?"
How old are you????
You cannot remember the 60's and 70's and ask this question.
The American Flag was the only one damaged that Dornan showed.
"Chrissy, you ignorant s..."
Cadell is an expert on Dem voter fraud. He knows it as an insider. We must beat Dem voter fraud or.....
title what!?
Dornan used to be a great guy with a few eccentricities. When I went to DC for a semester in 1987 I interviewed with his office for an internship. Over the years the eccentricities seemed to grow until they swallowed the man and there was nothing else left.
They were flying the Viet Commie flags while burning Old Glory. Traitors every one!
Dornan is a full-fledged nut and an embarrassment to the Republican party or any other party he might claim alliance
with.
Though, I certainly respect Dornan and agree totally with his points, I do think he came across a little "Howard Deanish" tonight.
And this during war time while our men were still fighting and dying in Vietnam. John Kerry was the spokesman for the leftist group. He's a turncoat traitor!
Also, Dornan said Kerry's group pulled ten flags down from the building they were at, I assume these were probably US State flags. Kerry's group urinated on those flags and burned an American flag. Dornan says he followed and filmed Kerry for 8 hours that day. Dornan recovered several Communist flags and the burned American flag left behind by Kerry's gang.
Horse hocky. He's a red, white and blue American.
Wasn't it the Clinton Impeachment that woke Pat up? As I recall, he tended to be a bit critical of the Toon's behavior and the lies that he told about it all.
i can understand why Dornan was so upset, he is a true American, and seeing what Kerry was doing totally pissed him off!
Let me tell you something. This (Swiftboat vets) campaign, is not about "us" or "Bush", or a political 'campaign strategy'. This is much, much more than that. This is PERSONAL with these guys.
This is not about "electing Bush". This is about "defeating Kerry"! To them, this is about 'their war'. About 'life and death' issues. THEY WILL NOT REST ON THIS. Trust me. This has now taken a life of it's own, and there's not a thing Republicans or Bush can do anything about it, even if they wanted to.
Amen! Dornan said what needed to be said and in a way that no one could mistake. Dornan showed a well earned anger for Kerry and the damage he's done for far too many years.
Dornan has more than earned the right to express his opinion any way he pleases, as far as I'm concerned.
Hey, I completely agree - these vets finally deserve to be heard.
I think that comparison is a bit harsh. Dornan was speaking from actual experience and observation of Kerry. Dean hasn't said anything that isn't a flat-out lie.
in addition, he needs toothpicks or something to keep his eyes open... i swear he was talking with his eyes closed...
The only reason this story has any legs at all is because right wing nuts like us have been pressing the issue. If we back off, so will the press.
If anyone has an authentic picture of Kerry burning a US Flag that will be the end of his run for president. I'd be willing to bet there is one.
To put it simply, Pat Cadell when nuts during the Clinton scandals. He was scandalized by Clinton and his party, and to Cadell's eternal credit, he condemned it.
I was a fan of Dornan until I watched some of the midnight
special orders he used to convene two or three times a week.
He would make some comments that were way out of left field.
He also will exaggerate his debate points to the max.
No, Dornan did not say he still had the film, but how much you want to bet that he does?
And just so I don't mislead anyone, Dornan didn't say he had 8 hours of film, rather he followed Kerry for 8 hours and filmed Kerry. Clear?
Dornan held up a picture of Kerry at the museum in Vietnam with Vietnamese surrounding him. It really wasn't that clear on TV. I do not know the history of the picture.
I have been hoping that someone would produce the picture of the "wall" in that museum that is supposedly dedicated to Kerry's support of the North Vietnamese. Does anyone know if it's ever been published on the any web page?
Kadell bascially said that Kerry/Democrats made a mistake making Kerry's Vietnam service the cornerstone of his campaign instead of talking about the issues.
Too little too late. The lunatic Dem fringe has been skewering Bush on everything (real or imagined) since day one! Kerry can walk up to the plate like a big boy, or run and hide behind various aprons he has available! Does J.F-ing K. even have a CLUE what the REAL issues are? After 19 years in the Senate, one would HOPE! The real issues are socialism, taxation, and the UN....... all of which he seems to support!
Dornan stated that he'd followed Kerry around the day of the VVAW rally in Washington. He had photos that he had taken, and he said he'd also filmed him. He observed them tearing down approximately 50 American flags and urinating on them. And then he waved the North Vietnamese flag, identified it as the flag of a communist nation and that it was flying within feet of Kerry.
I certainly agree, but H&C is the # 1 rated show in that time slot. Lots of people who normally only flip though the channels are now watching to figure out what all the "swift boat vet" thing is all about.
Dornan did not come across as having a full deck.
Caddel looked like crap, he must have some health problems, but come across as logical and clear thinking.
He was sane. He was passionate. He was spot on, and Alan's arguments for Kerry were totally steamrollered. It was most excellent.
Thank you Bob Dornan.
"Dornan held up a picture of Kerry at the museum in Vietnam with Vietnamese surrounding him. It really wasn't that clear on TV. I do not know the history of the picture.
I have been hoping that someone would produce the picture of the "wall" in that museum that is supposedly dedicated to Kerry's support of the North Vietnamese. Does anyone know if it's ever been published on the any web page?"
It is on here, not sure who posted it but its been put on here several times. I will look and see if I can find it for you.
He's never made a comment out of left field in his life. His red, white and blue patriotic blood won't allow it. Out of right field, maybe.
That is so true! You can't play nice with these people. Dornan would not be shut down or silenced, and I, as an American was VERY proud of him tonight. And also of fellow FReeper trueblackman (Kevin) who made an amazing appearance in his segment.
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