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Three Former POWs Say Communists Used Kerry's Words for Torment
Human Events Online ^ | Aug 27, 2004

Posted on 08/27/2004 6:25:28 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16

Jim Warner will never forget when he first heard of John Kerry. It was May of 1971, and Warner was a Marine first lieutenant suffering in solitary confinement in North Vietnam's infamous Skid Row punishment camp.

Since his F-4 fighter had been shot down three and a half years earlier, Warner had been tortured and interrogated regularly by his captors.

One morning--Warner thinks it was a Saturday--he was subjected to an unusually long three-hour interrogation, during which they made him read the typewritten transcript of a statement by a U.S. Navy officer, who was Vietnam veteran, speaking in the United States. The speech included a litany of American war atrocities against the Vietnamese and advocated an immediate and unilateral withdrawal from Vietnam.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ammo; kerry; pows
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
Some men have skeletons in their closets, Yaaawn has a killing field in his!

Pray for W and Our Troops

41 posted on 08/27/2004 9:23:50 PM PDT by bray (Just cause 95% of PravdABDNC is voting for Yaaawn, it doesn't mean they're Bias!)
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To: stockpirate

VVAW funded by the CPUSA. And the CPUSA supports Kerry, though not "officially". CPUSA's HQ is NYC - should be a busy convention week for them. Thanks for the great links in the other post earlier today on the FBI files regarding the VVAW.

42 posted on 08/27/2004 9:28:05 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub


43 posted on 08/27/2004 9:35:47 PM PDT by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Happy2BMe; Boazo; OXENinFLA; ...

44 posted on 08/27/2004 9:51:09 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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Well Boys & Girls, I stirred the pot in my community today wearing my new t-shirt that has kerry's picture on it (small), with Paul Gallanti's quote about kerry giving the enemy for free what he and his comrades took torture to avoid saying.

Got some flack from the dyed in the wool sheeple/communists, and some thumbs up from those with intelligence. Can't wait to wear it in front of the demorat booth at the local (Antelope Valley) Fair.

I'll have to drag somebody along to use my camera to record the reaction. Ha Ha.

45 posted on 08/27/2004 9:57:53 PM PDT by stumpy
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To: stumpy

Can you post the T shirt graphic?

46 posted on 08/27/2004 10:26:57 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Get this to every one.
This is the line of attack:

James Warner POW in North Vietnam

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“The North Vietnamese told us we were war criminals, not covered by Geneva Convention…” PLAY THIS (Last on this page): POWs 


The Swiftboat Vets' second ad, released at the beginning of this week to play in Ohio, West Virginia and Wisconsin, features former POWs charging Kerry with betrayal for accusing them of war atrocities during his testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971.

47 posted on 08/27/2004 10:28:05 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping!

48 posted on 08/27/2004 10:31:47 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Wolverine

Filed, copies, sent to all.


49 posted on 08/27/2004 10:35:49 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: Wolverine

Don't have that ability, but if you freep mail me I'll tell ya where I got it. Fair enough???

50 posted on 08/27/2004 10:40:11 PM PDT by stumpy
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To: Smartass; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub

51 posted on 08/27/2004 11:35:39 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: NavySEAL F-16; Wild Irish Rogue

52 posted on 08/27/2004 11:36:43 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: don-o
The POWs will do more than sink this fake and phony. They will destroy his entire political career.

Finally, the men who fought for this country get to tell the real story about the anti-war, pig Leftists. The liberal lemmings are getting payback.

53 posted on 08/27/2004 11:55:35 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub


54 posted on 08/28/2004 3:59:28 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: genghis; NavySEAL F-16
i am melting .....

Click here to donate to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth!

55 posted on 08/28/2004 4:48:24 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

DAMN, I would love to be a fly on the wall in Kerry Campaign HQS. I be it looks like the roof of the American Embassy in Saigon the day the NVA tanks rolled into town.

56 posted on 08/28/2004 4:51:32 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: NavySEAL F-16


57 posted on 08/28/2004 5:28:15 AM PDT by spodefly (Just put Ur name on this pre-nup and we can all hit the disco ...)
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To: DoughtyOne
It's the charge that 'taking Kerry to task is an insult to all veterans.'

What I'd like to see from the press is how disrespectful it is to those who serve, and served, in the National Guard when Kerry-ites say the Pres didn't serve his country.
The National Guard IS serving your country!

58 posted on 08/28/2004 5:40:16 AM PDT by jeffc (Leave a message at the beep . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: DoughtyOne
you've probably heard it but I'll say it again anyways; Kerry by his mere existence as anything other than a federal prisoner serving hard time for giving aide and comfort to the enemy is an insult to Vietnam Vets and to America.
59 posted on 08/28/2004 7:32:48 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: EmilyGeiger; hoosierpearl
Excerpts from article:
"They made a big deal about this guy who was a naval officer, talking about all these atrocities and war crimes," said Galanti. "They'd been for years saying, 'You're not prisoners of war, you're war criminals. You're never going home, we're going to try you after the war and you'll all be found guilty of war crimes.'"

Galanti realized only recently that it was Kerry's voice the Communists had used to torment him, when he saw a documentary on the anti-war movement and heard Kerry's unmistakable pronunciation of the words "Genghis Khan."

Tom Collins ... says he was also made to listen to an audiotape of Kerry's testimony by his North Vietnamese captors. He explained that the North Vietnamese were constantly trying to elicit confessions of war crimes from Americans.

"... they wanted to ... get us to make statements that they could use for propaganda, no matter what it took to get it" he said. "They would torture us, some were even killed for it. . . . For over seven years, their goal was to get propaganda out of me. And then I see somebody like John Kerry and the Vietnam Veterans [Against the War] giving them the same propaganda they want me to give them, free of charge, on American television."

"I wasn't necessarily disappointed in Jane Fonda," said Collins. "... I figured she's just some airhead Hollywood actress--so what? But then along comes this military officer. My first reaction was, this is a fake. But it wasn't a fake. This guy is a traitor. ... I expected more out of a Navy lieutenant. That's why I was so demoralized. It was far worse for him to do it."

Collins said he was also shown other VVAW propaganda, including a picture of a famous April 1971 event in Washington, in which the group's members threw what they said were their military medals over the fence. ...

"He knew he was putting us at risk," said Warner. "And he was demanding unilateral withdrawal, which means our value as bargaining chips would be gone. And what do you think would have happened to us then?"

Galanti [said] "... there was absolutely no reason to turn us back. . . . The only reason they let us go was because they got the living daylights bombed out of them by B-52s over the Christmas bombings in '72. . . . We were home 60 days later," he said.

Although it was barely covered in the press, Kerry was greeted coolly and even mildly heckled during his appearance at the Veterans of Foreign Wars convention in Cincinnati in August. Several veterans turned their backs on him or walked out during his speech.

60 posted on 08/28/2004 1:07:43 PM PDT by GretchenM (A country is a terrible thing to waste. Vote Republican.)
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