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Totalization Treaty With Mexico -- The Sellout of America Continues
U.S. BORDER CONTROL ^ | August/10/04

Posted on 08/31/2004 3:14:06 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR

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To: No-Compromise Conservative; Southack

Also --- Vicente Fox has only 2 years left unless he plans to do some kind of coup and stay in power after his one term is over. It's looking like the PRD with AMLO the mayor of Mexico City is likely to win. He's being compared with Chavez of Venezuela --- which means Mexico could be taking a serious leftward turn --- and the recent elections look like it is. We can't share our Social Security system with a Communist country. Mexico is way too unstable for a merger at this time.


81 posted on 08/31/2004 4:55:04 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
I've seen post #45. It really boggles the mind how some can be so stupid.

Fine = fee (pay this fee and you can stay here despite the fact that you entered this country ILLEGALLY!)

Legal status = amnesty (those who have broken our laws are outlaws; but this is their lucky day!...GWB has their legal papers in hand!)

Support of such a thing = a slap in the face to the USBP (men & women of the USBP are risking their lives in the desert heat tracking and arresting ILLEGALS who break our immigration laws. But President Bush wants to grant amnesty to those who manage to get through What a guy!).

Idiots.

82 posted on 08/31/2004 4:55:54 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: Ron H.
Yeah, right on. You keep believeing that.

What about the Aliens from outter space huh? How much Social Security do they get away with, and don't have to pay a dime. Or whatever it is they use...That's the conspiracy! hahahahahahahahaahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

(FYI, I don't believe that, I was MOCKING your conspiracy theory.)

83 posted on 08/31/2004 4:56:45 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (The (Swift Boat vets for) Truth will set us free.)
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To: Ron H.
- more - It all make perfect sense when one thinks about it.

Amen to that, but you don't go far enough. All these guys here whining about the Mexicans, how they drain on our SS, how they cause our emergency rooms to close. Waaaah wah.

The real conspiracy is how much the aliens from outter space are costing our first responders every year.

Do you know how much equipment we have to buy to subsidize these aliens???? All the costs of hiding it from the media?

SS is going bankrupt, from your post to Bush's ears!

*snicker*

84 posted on 08/31/2004 5:01:27 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (The (Swift Boat vets for) Truth will set us free.)
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To: Southack

Oh yeah, we have millions of Americans going south of the border for jobs!! The pay down there is soooo much higher than it is in this Country, so much so that Americans are flooding across the Mexican border to do the jobs the Mexicans won't do!!

Incrementalism is what you fail to see just like a good little sheople.


85 posted on 08/31/2004 5:09:26 PM PDT by TheExperiment_Is_Over
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To: TERMINATTOR

I hate to tell you but they already can and do collect Social Security.


86 posted on 08/31/2004 5:10:32 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Southack
It's a plea bargain, not an amnesty (you don't pay fines for amnesties), and it gets anonymous illegals registered, as well as gives them incentives to finally stay out of trouble with the law.

So, what happens when the illegals don't play along?

87 posted on 08/31/2004 5:15:13 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker
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To: Ron H.

I wonder how much this push for the big giveaway has to do with politics and protests in Mexico right now.

Thousands march to support Mexico City's mayor

MEXICO CITY, Mexico (AP) -- Mexico City's leftist mayor led more than 150,000 demonstrators in a march Sunday to protest efforts to impeach him, an issue his supporters say threatens Mexico's political stability and pits "those on the bottom" against "those on top."

From Sunday:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/08/29/mexico.protests.ap/

And tomorrow there is a big Social Security protest planned in Mexico City. Lopez is the leading candidate and recently Vicente Fox's wife of 3 years supposedly pulled out of the race and I have never heard of who might be the PAN party candidate --- but PAN isn't doing well. I think our leaders don't want Lopez Obrador to win --- that might hurt some of the big business that's there in Mexico for the very cheap labor.


88 posted on 08/31/2004 5:28:12 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: TheExperiment_Is_Over

That is kind of silly --- the minimum wage in Mexico is about $4.50 a DAY --- not too many Americans would head down there for that. Even the doctors in Mexico don't make what nurses do in the USA and nurses in Mexico make something like $2 an hour --- good pay in Mexico but nothing that would bring Americans.


89 posted on 08/31/2004 5:30:05 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Southack
Go here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1192273/posts

Note the first 9 months of FY2004 totals, post the Bush amnesty plan, are mostly larger than all of 2003.

This is not good.

90 posted on 08/31/2004 5:48:04 PM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo for President/Jeff Flake VP 2004!)
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To: FITZ

My point exactly. But everytime this subject comes up all the little froggies swimming in the luke warm pot of water stick their heads sp and tell the rest of us the water is fine come on in. They have been swallowed up by the cult of Party affiliation.


91 posted on 08/31/2004 6:01:22 PM PDT by TheExperiment_Is_Over
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To: itsahoot

Maryland has a few counties that allow "non-citizens" to vote in local-level elections. IIRC, there are a few other states too that allow non-citizens to vote as well.


92 posted on 08/31/2004 6:08:15 PM PDT by cassie22
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To: Southack
The new treaty applies to 50,000 legal workers...not to 8 million illegal aliens.

That's reassuring... unless it is the "camel's nose under the tent."

Think about how many programs have started with limited scope and grown like cancer: Environmental species programs, social security, the income tax, various welfare and poverty programs. Remember, in the language of the Beltway every decrease in slated increase is a "cut." Be very careful about assuming reasonableness on the part of legislators (and their successors) when a new entitlement is introduced!

93 posted on 08/31/2004 6:21:32 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
What about the Aliens from outter space huh?

I guess this is about what one can expect from a child.

94 posted on 08/31/2004 6:48:31 PM PDT by Ron H. (It's about time for Christian and social conservatives to start looking for a new party.)
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To: TERMINATTOR
unless you and I can persuade the Congress to stop it, millions of Mexicans, including illegal aliens, will soon be living it up on your Social Security benefits!

Quick! Get your stock in Corona Beer now!
95 posted on 08/31/2004 6:50:29 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: TheExperiment_Is_Over

You seem to have your head screwed tightly on your shoulders unlike so many of the party hacks around here have their heads buried so deep up the RNC arse they'll need D-10 Cats to dislodge them.


96 posted on 08/31/2004 6:54:05 PM PDT by Ron H. (It's about time for Christian and social conservatives to start looking for a new party.)
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To: TERMINATTOR

Our southern border with Mexico ought to be as tough to cross as Mexico's southern border.

imo


97 posted on 08/31/2004 6:57:49 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: TERMINATTOR

P I N G


98 posted on 09/01/2004 12:24:07 AM PDT by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: TERMINATTOR

Waiting for 8,000,000 illegals to become legals soon BTTT


99 posted on 09/01/2004 12:32:59 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: South40
Politics has gotten too political for any earthly American good..the baton (read: Constitution) was dropped along the way.
100 posted on 09/01/2004 12:36:14 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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