Posted on 09/01/2004 11:22:16 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
No doubt the debate about human influence will rage on. The article also does not even take a stab to estimate the costs of implementation - but mentions this as well.
At the end of the day, human progress has been most extraordinary when we have been faced with climate changes. Whether manmade or natural, perhaps it is a blessing in disguise and what will emerge will be something superior to what we now have.
Which IMHO basically means a planet of nations that looks like France and thinks like Texas. Of course Utopia really is a place that does not exist.
Is that about it?
Funny, the greatest single correlating factor with global warming is the Sun. Yet it was not even mentioned in this article.
Do we have a technology to control the output of the sun? Nope.
Silly computer.
Assuming CO2 emmission is a huge problem, Nuclear power becomes a logical solution. But Greenies would never advocate nuclear power.
It is a fact that space-borne observations of Earth's surface temperatures show no warming trend (nor cooling trend).
It is possible that, since the temperaturs measurements are chiefly based on Weather Service measurements, and those are made at airports, and airports are increasingly surrounded by cities' growth, and cities include pavement and air conditioners, then the observed temperature rise is a result of coagulation of people, not atmospheric at all.
It's also possible that the fact that the sun's output energy is not constant (I think it's up by 30% over 150 years) might have something to do with it.
Idiocy. Complete idiocy.
Yeah, it likes coming up with a plan to dig holes then fill them back in to provide a tremendous stimulus to the economy.
Um, maybe my science is off, but I can't recall the part where I learned (or didn't learn) that energy could be consumed...
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There is a new line of thought in Climate Change theory which recognozes that the historical average temerpature of the Earth is Kelvin 284. Which is about 54 degrees fahrenheit.
The people purporting this theory say that as long as the average temperature stays at or around this level, life (for that matter intelligent life) remains possible.
One of the things that has them worried are solar panels. They contest that if you imagine billions of square meters of black solar panles are placed on the Earth by humans, the amount of heat they would absorb ( in comparisom to a more reflective color) would certainly negate any benefit from reducing the amount of carbon in the atmosphere.
The is the same concern that is expressed about the melting of the ice in Greenland and Antarctica. It isnt the excess water, but the "runawawy" greenhouse effect caused by the change in color.
Fascinating (to me at least).
Interesting observation.
I would be curious to learn more about that.
I know in Germany the "Green Roofs" program is being used to combat the Heat Island Effect.
It also saves money on heating and cooling. Dirt and grass are great as insulation.
I will have to take a look at Frankfurt's readings.
I am a big fan of this program because it makes cities more livable. It is money well spent and combats the significant issues related to deforestation and the transfer of moisture inland.
This, or a shortened version of it, would be a great tag line.
Could you provide a translation of your account name? I assume it is German. I was stationed in Germany back '83-'87 but did not learn enough German.
Thanks,
We don't even know what we don't know. We see carbon dioxide levels increasing, we don't know what it means. We see reputable science predicting warming and cooling and staying the same. We see timetables of 50 to 100 years. We have people like Bjorn Lomborg showing that the activists are exagerating everything. I'm for sitting tight for a few tens of years and seeing where this goes.
Now by sitting tight, I don't mean not keeping the car engine in good shape, and improving emmission control on factories where smog levels are already high. I would like to see our energy needs point in the direction of renewable and non poluting systems such as nuclear power. I don't mind other alternatives coming in when they can get the requisite financing, but it should be the market that drives these new technologies. So far when the government gets involved, it ends up making some businessmen rich, so the government is mostly about making money for supporters of various schemes. This sounds like another candidate. When the technology and business plan show true promise, businesses fund their own production and make the money themselves. Thats the way I would like to see it.
We don't care. We want windmills and electric cars, we want them now, and we want them for free.
Did I miss something? Which of these technologies dims the sun?
"Could you provide a translation of your account name?"
Gladly. With a short German lesson to boot.
My screen name is also the first three words of the German national Anthem. It is, in fact, the second verse of Deutschland, Deutschland über Alles.
Einigkeit = Unity (Ein = one; Keit is an suffix like "ing")
Recht = Rights or Justice dependent upon context.
Freiheit = Freedom and/or Liberty. The Statue of Liberty in German is calle the Freiheits Statue (but one lone Germanic word).
I had one full year as a student to learn the language. Otherwise it would have been a struggle that I am not sure I would have won.
Cheers,
ERF.
Idiocy. Complete idiocy.
Agreed! With logic like this, why are we listening to anything this person has to say?
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