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Automatic weapons fire at Russian School Hostage taking
Fox News | 09/03/04 | Self

Posted on 09/03/2004 2:19:35 AM PDT by Kozak

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To: Yasmine

ONE ambulance?? This poor tiny community. Surely they will send more?


61 posted on 09/03/2004 2:58:26 AM PDT by Yasmine (If we will not be governed by God, then we will be ruled by tyrants)
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To: Yasmine

What horror for the rescuers.


62 posted on 09/03/2004 2:58:41 AM PDT by hmmmmm
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To: Barlowmaker

Exactly why I refuse to watch MSNBC. Gads.


63 posted on 09/03/2004 2:59:39 AM PDT by Yasmine (If we will not be governed by God, then we will be ruled by tyrants)
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To: Barlowmaker

Dawna Friesen by name.

"Official report of events here."

Bitch.


64 posted on 09/03/2004 3:00:15 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: hmmmmm

Yes, that's right.

Accounts of 200-400 people in the school may have been a case of under counting. Evidently community members state that 800-1000 people attended the opening of the school.

It was the first day of school, kids and parents celebrating and in their best dress.

This just angers me more than I can say. Those people aren't rich. They struggle to get by.


65 posted on 09/03/2004 3:00:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Barlowmaker

Yeah, like she thinks this would have happened without terrorists. Duh!


66 posted on 09/03/2004 3:01:42 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Yasmine

They don't have a lot of money in this part of Russia; outside of Moscow, St. Pete and a few other major cities, its very poor. According to CNN, this garbage has: 1) denied water to children for three days; 2) fired on a group of children that escaped behind some of the cowards who decided they would try to save their rotten carcasses; 3) made the children stand at all times. Where are the Islamic religious authorities worldwide while this was happening? Their silence is damning.


67 posted on 09/03/2004 3:02:06 AM PDT by laconic
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To: DoughtyOne

I admit to knowing very little about the Chechyn revolt, but taking children hostage is below low.


68 posted on 09/03/2004 3:02:23 AM PDT by Yasmine (If we will not be governed by God, then we will be ruled by tyrants)
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To: All

Hostage takers allowed removal of dead bodies (24) when they got there, terrorists set off explosions then surrounded themselves with children as human shields


69 posted on 09/03/2004 3:03:46 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (CEO, VRWC: When you think treason, don't think Benedict Arnold - think JOHN 'Buzzard' KERRY!)
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To: Yasmine

On watching the re running of the same footage of small children hungrily drinking water, there is one young girl with very dark hair in a pony tail seen only from the back. It makes my heart just ache each time they show her.


70 posted on 09/03/2004 3:04:20 AM PDT by Yasmine (If we will not be governed by God, then we will be ruled by tyrants)
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To: Kozak

'Hostages flee as roof collapses' Freed hostages say 1,000 may be held captive Friday, September 3, 2004 Posted: 5:48 AM EDT (0948 GMT)


BESLAN, Russia (CNN) -- Dozens of hostages have escaped from a school in southern Russia as the school's roof collapsed, Russia's Interfax news agency reported.

Several loud explosions and small-arms fire were heard Friday near the school where armed hostage-takers have been holding hundreds of children, parents and teachers.

Interfax said a group of about 30 hostages escaped from the school and quoted authorities as saying the school roof had collapsed.

Russian soldiers were taking up positions around the school, and Russian attack helicopters circled over the area.

The explosions and gunfire came as relatives and journalists were told by authorities to move further back from the school.

"This is horrific, this is precipitating very quickly," CNN's Ryan Chilcote reported from the scene.

Several people wounded by gunfire were carried from the scene and were receiving medical attention, Chilcote said, adding that one of the wounded was a cameraman.

"This is one of the more significant outbreaks of gunfire we've heard," Chilcote said. "Relatives who've been waiting so patiently have begun to break down."

Earlier, Russian officials said hundreds more hostages may be inside the school than first thought.

As the crisis entered its third day Friday, a spokesman for the regional government told CNN an earlier estimate of 350 hostages was low.

Two of 26 hostages freed by their captors on Thursday indicated there were 1,000 children, parents and teachers inside the building in Beslan, near the troubled Russian republic of Chechnya.

Relatives waiting outside the school also have said there could be as many as 1,000 hostages, noting that the school has 11 grades with 75-100 students in each grade.

Asked about the discrepancy with the earlier estimate, the regional government spokesman said officials originally accounted only for those children whose parents reported them missing.

But teachers also were in the school when armed attackers seized the building Wednesday morning.

And many of the children -- especially in the lower grades -- were accompanied by their parents and in some cases entire families for a celebration to mark the start of the school year.

"The situation in school very, very dire," Chilcote said..

"Two of the 26 women and children released yesterday are saying the situation is very bad inside the school's gymnasium where the hostages are being kept.

"At one point the men were separated from the women and children. The men were then brought back into the gymnasium, but there weren't as many of them, and there's no word what happened to the other men."

"There is no food and water. At one point the hostage-takers brought them one cup of water for, as they put it, 1,000 hostages."

Russian officials say they are continuing to talk with the captors by telephone, but so far have failed to convince them to let officials bring water and food inside the school.

Earlier, two loud explosions jolted the area. Authorities said the explosions were caused by grenades fired from hand-held launchers from inside the school.

The hostage-takers told negotiators by cell phone that they fired because they claimed there was troop movement near the building.

Sporadic small arms fire occurred throughout the day, but there had been no shots for several hours before the blasts, which went off around 12:30 a.m. on Friday (2030 GMT Thursday).

Russian troops, tanks and armored vehicles ring the school, beyond which are hundreds of frantic relatives and friends of those trapped inside the building.

The attackers have threatened to kill the children if an assault is launched.

"Our most important task in the current situation is, of course, to save the lives and health of those who were taken hostage," Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday.

Leading the talks was the former president of Ingushetia, Ruslan Aushev, who has entered the school and met face-to-face with the captors. Ingushetia is a Russian republic bordering Chechnya.

Tense negotiations with the hostage-takers saw 26 women and children -- some of them infants -- released from the school Thursday. Security forces in military fatigues carried the children to safety.

"The freeing of 26 is a big victory, but if you look at the whole picture, it is just a drop, there's still a lot of work to be done," said negotiator and pediatrician Leonid Roshal.

Roshal said he has been negotiating with a man by the name of Shai Khu, who has described himself as the group's press attache.

"Unfortunately, they have again refused to receive medicines, food and water for the children," Roshal said. "He calls himself a warrior. I told him warriors don't behave like this."

Roshal was also involved in negotiations with Chechens who seized a Moscow theater in the middle of a performance in October 2002, holding more than 700 people hostage.

One of the requests made of the attackers is that the families of those killed in the initial assault on the school be allowed to remove the bodies of their loved ones from in front of the building.

Authorities said there are seven bodies. Ten others were wounded in the taking of the primary school around 9 a.m. Wednesday.

Officials believe there are between 15 and 20 armed assailants, at least two of whom are women. Some are reported to be wearing explosives-packed belts.

Theater siege The crisis was reminiscent of the October 2002 siege of a Moscow theater, when Chechen rebels threatened to kill their hostages and demanded an end to the war in Chechnya.

Many of those attackers were women, with explosives belts strapped to their body, while the men were armed with pistols and rifles. Two massive bombs also had been placed in the theater.

That standoff ended when Russian forces piped poison gas into the theater to knock out everyone inside, but more than 120 hostages and 41 attackers were killed, most of them from the gas.

The current standoff follows a bloody week in Russia. A female suicide bomber killed nine people outside a Moscow subway station Tuesday, and two suspected Chechen female suicide bombers downed two airliners on August 24, killing all 89 people aboard the planes.

Russian officials have said the new wave of attacks is an attempt at revenge for last weekend's elections in Chechnya in which a Kremlin-backed candidate won the presidency.

Beslan is 30 kilometers (19 miles) north of Vladikavkaz in southern Russia, which borders Chechnya.


71 posted on 09/03/2004 3:04:47 AM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: DoughtyOne

I'm right there with you. Noone should ever have to even imagine much go through this. I'm at the point that no amount of torture of these perpetrators would be enough.


72 posted on 09/03/2004 3:05:43 AM PDT by hmmmmm
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

From Yahoo:
BESLAN, Russia - A group of about 30 women and children broke out of a school in southern Russia where militants were holding hundreds of people captive Friday, a news agency reported, after two loud explosions were heard and Russian commandos opened fire near the building. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news? tmpl=story&cid=518&ncid=716&e=1&u=/ap/20040903/ap_on_re_eu/russia_school_seizure

Children Brought Out of Russia School

The Interfax news agency said that the school's roof had collapsed and militants were shelling and firing from the building. Interfax said the hostages who broke out of the school included women and children. It was impossible to immediately verify the reports.

Two helicopters hovered overhead. An ambulance rushed from the scene and CNN reported that at least two people were wounded. On Thursday, the militants inside the school had released some 26 of the hundreds of hostages held inside the building since Wednesday.


73 posted on 09/03/2004 3:06:23 AM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

(Fox) female bombers have fled


74 posted on 09/03/2004 3:06:33 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (CEO, VRWC: When you think treason, don't think Benedict Arnold - think JOHN 'Buzzard' KERRY!)
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To: Yasmine

In recent elections, the Chechnyans voted for Moscow's favored candidate. If that election was on the up and up, that should say something about whether the terrorists are backed by the Chechnyan public.


75 posted on 09/03/2004 3:06:43 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

At least 2 of the female terrorists have gotten out.


76 posted on 09/03/2004 3:06:53 AM PDT by hmmmmm
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To: DoughtyOne
This just angers me more than I can say. Those people aren't rich. They struggle to get by.

Exactly..

Regardless of the conflicting political positions or attitudes of "governments", people are people most everywhere..
Want a good life, peace, the chance to make a decent living, provide for their family...
They aren't involved in international politics, "oppression", or any of that crap...
There is no valid reason to make them the victims of what is essentially a political conflict..

Wish we could simply set aside land for such things, and when two parties disagree to the point of violence, they can simply go there and fight it out, leave the rest of the world alone.. ( just venting)

77 posted on 09/03/2004 3:07:10 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: DoughtyOne

Folks, I cannot help but think similar scenarios have been planned and spoiled by our brave men and women here in the U.S. It's impossible to know how many little "battles" are being fought here everyday. The war is just beginning. Sensitive leadership need not apply.


78 posted on 09/03/2004 3:07:26 AM PDT by NImerc
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To: DoughtyOne

sounds similar to the Muslims. There is a special place in hell for these barbarians.


79 posted on 09/03/2004 3:08:51 AM PDT by Yasmine (If we will not be governed by God, then we will be ruled by tyrants)
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To: hmmmmm

I guess the b#tches don't want to see Allah yet. Hope the moms of these kids find them and tear them to shreds.


80 posted on 09/03/2004 3:09:16 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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