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WHEN THE KILLERS COME FOR THE KIDS
New York Post ^ | 9/04/04 | RALPH PETERS

Posted on 09/03/2004 11:28:48 PM PDT by kattracks

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To: Geist Krieger
Yep. Pretty sobering.


61 posted on 09/04/2004 10:35:53 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Travis McGee; piasa; Jeff Head
Agree ...as I stated , a large force of responders in a large city would try to keep such from happening but in small towns the people are the police in most cases. They did good and I am proud of them and what I saw in the Russian school incident.

Did ya note the tangos first tasks in the attack ? They placed charges fast and wired the place with charges in the basketball nets in the gym first....... They came to kill. To bring the worlds attention to their issues and then KILL....

They will kill regardless of wait and see SOP by responders. That IMO is the counter . Stop them on our timeline , not theirs. They have every intention of dying so take em fast and furious with security in place and in their face !

Damn I wish I had the answer and ability to put it in place within our system but polidiots will be just as horrific an enemy to our safety till they decide to "trust" our citizens. There are checks and balances to preclude the cowboy fanatics from abusing such authority granted and the polidiots anbd presstitutes know it.

Make our world safer , regardless of your location...Gotham or Gooberville. Let us defend ourselves damn it.......

stay safe .....

62 posted on 09/04/2004 10:44:12 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

In such incidents, we have to forget our ideas of perfect rescue scenarios, with 100% hostage recovery. Not reality. We have to plan around maximizing hostage recovery, accepting that in some cases 50% may be the best we can hope for, against 0%.


63 posted on 09/04/2004 2:38:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Squantos; Cap'n Crunch

PS: this presupposes that the assault teams may take VERY heavy casualties, as they run through MG fire or into prepared demolitions, trying to rescue the hostages.

Gut-check time world wide for SWAT guys.


64 posted on 09/04/2004 2:39:56 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

for sure...anywhere in the US with high gun ownership is going to bring out the hunters and black gun types if some avowed enemies of the state take a grade school hostage...no doubt.

remember the Austin tower shooter?


65 posted on 09/04/2004 3:12:20 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Travis McGee
Lots of tech considerations to evaluate per new and improved E-Weapons that are non lethal. Lots of potential to render both tango and hostage senseless long enough to either remove the hostages or pop the terrorists....... The potential for a pressure release switched IED is a item still on the dunno list...... SWAG in progress.

Stay safe !

66 posted on 09/04/2004 3:16:31 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos; wardaddy

Most of the knock-out schemes I've seen (gases, etc) that will knock out a 180# man in an instant will kill 80# children. And as we use them, terrorists will adapt with pressure-release "dead man" switches as SOP.

We're going to have to accept casualties, period.


67 posted on 09/04/2004 3:21:45 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Those Muslims who preach Jihad against the West decided years ago that killing Jewish or Christian children is not only acceptable, but pleasing to their god when done by "martyrs."

When we saw them strapping bombs onto their own helpless children just to blow up some innocent Israeli citizens waiting at a bus stop or sitting in a cafe, we should have realized Muslims are capable of this kind of thing.

68 posted on 09/04/2004 3:23:25 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Travis McGee
IMO gases never worked to disable. Just to kill as we saw first time in russia....... Gas is not an option to consider.

Stay safe !

69 posted on 09/04/2004 3:26:41 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: FITZ

Yes indeed. They will never find a bottom they will not sink to.


70 posted on 09/04/2004 3:28:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Squantos

It's going to get ugly before we stop them. Real ugly.


71 posted on 09/04/2004 3:29:50 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Slaughtering the innocents violates a universal human taboo. Or a nearly universal one. Those Muslims who preach Jihad against the West decided years ago that killing Jewish or Christian children is not only acceptable, but pleasing to their god when done by "martyrs."

For "years ago" substitute "about 1400 years ago"

Sunnah Volume 4, Book 52, Number 256:

Narrated As-Sab bin Jaththama:

The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." I also heard the Prophet saying, "The institution of Hima [sanctuary; inviolate zone] is invalid except for Allah and His Apostle."

[ translation: the women and children of infidels are under no protection under Muslim rules. A Muslim has no need to avoid killing them while attacking infidels (as the Palestinian suicide bombers demonstrate repeatedly) ]


72 posted on 09/04/2004 3:39:42 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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To: Bobby777
having perused the internet korans for info,

FYI

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/ltr.html

http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/bool.html
73 posted on 09/04/2004 5:07:05 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos; Happy2BMe; backhoe; MeekOneGOP; Smartass; Grampa Dave; devolve
It's going to get ugly before we stop them. Real ugly.

Kerry voted against the death penalty for terrorists killing Americans.

74 posted on 09/04/2004 6:12:45 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo; Ragtime Cowgirl; Cindy; SusanTK; AdmSmith; Valin; Luis Gonzalez; ALOHA RONNIE; ...
CAIR REMAINS SILENT ON THE RUSSIANS MURDERED BY ISLAMOFACISTS
However, they have enough time to lobby some dumb DemOrats to sign a letter to get an American General to resign for their Islamic BS

A copy of the letter from CAIR's web site.

News Releases
Thursday, September 02, 2004

11 Members of Congress Sign 'Fire Boykin' Letter

On September 2, eleven members of Congress, led by Rep. Barney Frank
(D-MA), submitted an official 'Dear Colleague' letter to President Bush
calling on the dismissal and firing of Lt. Gen. William Boykin as Deputy
Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence for his anti-Muslim remarks made
while in official military uniform.

The letter reads, in part: "One such step…is for you to dismiss Lt. Gen.
William Boykin as the Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for
Intelligence. We were appalled when we learned of the comments General
Boykin had made invoking religion in an inflammatory and inappropriate way
while in uniform. Many of us hoped at the time that your administration
would act promptly to remove him, but you instead decided to give him the
benefit of a thorough investigation. Now that investigation has
demonstrated what has been clear to many of us all along – namely that
General Boykin should not serve as a high intelligence officer of the U.S.
government. We find his judgment to be severely lacking on many
counts. The offense he has given to hundreds of millions of Muslims in the
world clearly can only exacerbate many of the problems we face…"

The other honorable signatories included Rep. James McDermott (D-WA), Rep.
Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX), Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA), Rep. Martin Meehan
(D-MA), Rep. Jose Serrano (D-NY), Rep. John Conyers (D-MI), Rep. Stephanie
Tubbs Jones (D-OH), Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-NY), Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA) and
Rep. Fortney Pete Stark (D-CA).

WHOSE SIDE ARE THESE ROTTEN BASTARDS ON?

75 posted on 09/04/2004 6:29:54 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Smartass

"WHOSE SIDE ARE THESE ROTTEN BASTARDS ON?"

Answer: It's obvious.


76 posted on 09/04/2004 6:43:30 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Smartass
WHOSE SIDE ARE THESE ROTTEN BASTARDS ON?

Not America's...

77 posted on 09/04/2004 7:07:29 PM PDT by Old Sarge (ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
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To: Smartass; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; B4Ranch; TrueBeliever9; Geist Krieger; JohnHuang2; ...

News Releases
Thursday, September 02, 2004

11 Members of Congress Sign 'Fire Boykin' Letter

On September 2, eleven members of Congress, led by Rep. Barney Frank
(D-MA), submitted an official 'Dear Colleague' letter to President Bush
calling on the dismissal and firing of Lt. Gen. William Boykin as Deputy
Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence for his anti-Muslim remarks made
while in official military uniform.

The other honorable signatories included:
Rep. James McDermott (D-WA)
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX)
Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA)
Rep. Martin Meehan
(D-MA), Rep. Jose Serrano (D-NY)
Rep. John Conyers (D-MI)
Rep. Stephanie
Tubbs Jones (D-OH), Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-NY)
Rep. Barbara Lee (D-CA) and
Rep. Fortney Pete Stark (D-CA).

______________________________________

Note clearly the above concentrated areas of Islamic political muscle already gathering in our nation.

They're working on it, according to plan.

______________________________________

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God will destroy America by the hands of the Muslims....God will not give Japan or Europe the honor of bringing down the United States; this is an honor God will bestow upon Muslims." – Nation of Islam Leader Louis Farrakhan

Tue Apr 20, 8:09 AM ET
Reuters

Jermaine Jackson(L), brother of Michael Jackson, Jackson family spokesman Firpo W. Carr(C) and Khawaja Khurshid Reshi hold a rug with a woven picture of Michael Jackson April 19, 2004, in Manama. Jermaine Jackson, in the Gulf to promote understanding between Muslims and his fellow Americans, said Tuesday that Muslims are 'the new Negroes in America.' Jermaine, a convert to Islam and dressed in white Arab garb, has been speaking about Islam and U.S. 'adventures' in Iraq to enthusiastic audiences at Koranic centers and universities in the Gulf Arab state of Bahrain. (Hamad I Mohammed/Reuters)

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AMERICA'S  ISLAMIZATION
CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) spokesman Ibrahim Hooper indicated in a 1993 interview with the Minneapolis Star Tribune that he wants to see the United States become a Muslim country.

American Black Muslim MovementBefore Americans start pitying the poor Brits (who truly deserve a good bashing from Islam), they should checked their own  neighborhoods!  Besides Louis Farrakan's Nation of Islam, the Black Panther and New Black Panther Parties with all their black wanna-be Muslims, there are also REAL Muslims and their communities are springing up everywhere. In 1970 there were an estimated one-hundred thousand Muslims in the United States. Today, a mere 34 years later, the number is approximately 7-10 million! More than a quarter of a million people of Arab descent live in southeastern Michigan, making the area the second-largest Arab community outside the Middle East (after Paris, France). One frightening example of their prolific growth in American is Dearborn, Michigan. Of a total population ofArab-American living in Dearborn, Michigan 90,000 Dearborn residents, 25,000 are now Arabs!  And of all the Dearborn children under the age of 18, a full 58% are Arab children! Other developing centers of Arab/Muslim growth are Florida, Texas, New Jersey and California. God Bless America!

Every year huge numbers of Arabs/Muslims from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Kuwaitis, Syria, Egypt, Albania and dozens of other ethnic Muslim states who hate America swarm into the United States and add to the already increasing numbers of Arab/Muslim. And every year hundreds of mosques, which preach the extermination of all non-Muslims and the Islamization of America, are being added to the thousands already pointing their minarets skyward. The vast majority (80%) of American mosques are funded with Saudi Arabian money and most subscribe to 18th century Wahhabism that calls for the spread of Islam through violence. Many mosques, "Islamic Learning Centers" and Arab/Muslim Student Unions are distributing large numbers of pamphlets and leaflets attacking Judaism, Christianity and other non-Muslim religions and urging young Americans (esp. angry black Americans) to convert to Islam! Not surprisingly, a large number of African-Americans convert to Islam while in the prison systems! The National Islamic Prison Foundation, which coordinates a campaign to convert inmates to Islam claim an average of 135,000 such conversions per year. And if thousands of self-hating, Leftwing Jews hadn't already converted to Buddhism, they too might be targeted!

The nerve of these evil people to exploit the freedoms given to them here in America and other democracies when their goal is to extinguish ALL freedom!  

Islamic takeover of U.S. flagMany Arabs in America are a disloyal fifth column. They work relentlessly to undermine the U.S. struggle to survive in the face of the growing Muslim terrorist threat. The huge Muslim birthrate, Muslim immigration, the massive expansion of Muslim religious and educational institutions that convert Christians to Islam and the purchase of major U.S. companies by Muslim oil sheiks are all also part of their strategy. America's great friend (???), Saudi Arabia, from whose land came fifteen of the nineteen September 11th Arab hijackers (who flattened the World Trade Center, a portion of the Pentagon and made a very big hole in a Pennsylvania field), has for some time been spear-heading the spread of Islamic doctrine. The Saudis have wholly or partly financed some 210 Islamic Centers (check out this one in Boca Raton, Florida!!!), more than 1,500 mosques and 202 colleges and almost 2,000 schools for educating Muslim children in non-Islamic countries in Europe, Asia, South America, Canada, Australia and America. Check out the mosque near you and look for Islamic propagandists exalting the virtues of Islam to appear soon in YOUR kid's school. Speaking of schools, watch them try to infuse Islam and Islamic rights INTO school systems! Did you know that some Islamic schools in America are teaching hatred toward American Jews and Christians? And what about regular North American colleges and universities? Check out one of the so-called "social activities" of the M.S.A. (Muslim Student Association)! And don't forget to pick up the U.S. Postal Service's new 34 cent Eid-il-Mubarak stamp!

Note: For a better appreciation of the colonization of Arab/Islamic terror squads arrive, colonize and flourish in America and how they interconnect, recruit, raise money and use the American freedoms and legal system as a cover. 

78 posted on 09/04/2004 7:18:34 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Jihad - coming to a school near you.)
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To: rintense
Did slackjaw Kerry say anything about the Russian 9-11?

I don't know about Kerry, but I'm angry at the low key American TV news coverage of this historic atrocity. You are very right to call it the Russian 9/11.

79 posted on 09/04/2004 7:24:26 PM PDT by SupplySider
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