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The Religion of peace a few items of interest
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Posted on 09/05/2004 3:30:45 PM PDT by Fast1

Note the percentages above. They aren't entirely stupid. Their pattern has been much the same in the last couple of centuries...

1) Infiltrate the culture...but don't assimilate

2) Decry religious intolerance (the U.S. is in this stage)

3) When they have a large enough population, governments are influenced. Armed confrontations begin.

4) When they have a plurality, they institute Muslim law or violent overthrow begins (whichever is easier).

5) If they couldn't institute Muslim law in step 4, they eventually get around to it. At this point, they oppress the religious and ethnic minorities.

Look around the world and see if this pattern isn't repeated...

Europe: Bosnia - Muslims vs. Slavs Albania/Kosovo - Muslims vs. Slavs FYRoM - Muslims vs. Slavs/Greeks Cyprus - Muslims vs. Greeks

Africa: Algeria - Muslims vs. secular democracy Sudan - Muslims vs. Christians Egypt - Muslims vs. Christians Eritrea/Ethiopia - Muslims vs. ?

Middle East and environs: Armenia/Azerbijan - Muslims vs. Christians Iraq - Muslims vs. Kurds Iraq - Sunni Muslims vs. Shia Muslims Iraq - Muslims vs. USA Israel - Muslims vs. Jews Lebanon - Muslims vs. Christians/Druze Iran - Muslims vs. secular democrats

Asia: Pakistan - Muslims vs. Christians/Hindus India - Muslims vs. Hindus Afghanistan - Muslims vs. Muslims Afghanistan - Muslims vs. USA China - Muslims vs. Communists Russia - Muslims vs. Slavs Georgia - Muslims vs. Slavs Phillipines - Muslims vs. secular democracy Indonesia - Muslims vs. secular 'democracy'/militarists Uzbekistan - Muslims vs. fascists

Afghanistan 18M 99% 2 Albania 2.3M 75% 3 Algeria 22M 98% 4 Bahrain .220M 99% 5 Bangladesh 100M 85% 6 Cameroon 6.2M 55% 7 Central African Republic 2M 55% 8 Chad 4M 85% 9 Dahomey 3M 60% 10 Egypt 51M 93% 11 Ethiopia 27M 65% 12 Gambia .4M 85% 13 Guinea 4.3M 95% 14 Guinea-Bissau .81M 70% 15 Indonesia 161M 95% 16 Iran 48M 98% 17 Iraq 14.5M 95% 18 Ivory Coast 5M 55% 19 Jordan 3M 95% 20 Kuwait 1M 98% 21 Lebanon 3M 57% 22 Libya 3M 100% 23 Malaysia 14.5M 52% 24 Maldive Islands 12M 100% 25 Mali 6M 90% 26 Mauritania 2M 100% 27 Morocco 24M 99% 28 Niger 4.5M 91% 29 Nigeria 100M 75% 30 Oman .75M 100% 31 Pakistan 90M 97% 32 Qatar .18M 100% 33 Saudi Arabia 10.5M 100 34 Senegal 7M 95% 35 Sierra Leone 3M 65% 36 Somalia 5M 100% 37 South Yemen 1.5M 95% 38 Sudan 22M 85% 39 Syria 11M 87% 40 Tanzania 15M 65% 41 Togo 2.1M 55% 42 Tunisia 7M 95% 43 Turkey 66M 99% 44 U.A.E .32M 100% 45 Upper Volta 6M 56% 46 North Yemen 6M 99%

Here are the countries with a Muslim minority. In practically everyone, the Muslims are spreading fear and hate and killing of non-Muslims..

Country Name Muslims % of total population Angola 1.5M 25% Argentina .5M 2% Australia .13M 1% Bhutan .05M 5% Botswana .03M 5% Brazil .21M .2% Bulgaria 1.3M 14% Burma 3M 10% Burundi .7M 20% Cambodia .07M 1% Canada .1M .5% China 100M 11% Congo .15M 15% Cyprus .21M 33% Equatorial Guinea .07M 25% Fiji .06M 11% France 2M 3.80% Germany 1.5M 2.40% Ghana 3M 30% Gibraltar .003M 10% Greece .27M 3% Hong Kong .004M 1% Guyana .01M 15% India 100M 12% Italy .55M 1% Japan .01M 1.00% Kenya 4M 29.50% Liberia .5M 30% Lesotho .12M 10% Malagasy Republic 1.4M 20% Malawi 1.7M 35% Malta .045M 14% Mauritius .14M 19.50% Mozambique 2.2M 29% Namibia .034M 5% Nepal .5M 4% Netherlands .2M 1.50% Panama .05M 4% Philippines 5M 12% Portuguese Timor .012M 20% Reunion .09M 20% Rumania .2M 20% Zimbabwe 1M 15% South Africa .5M 2% Sri Lanka 1.2M 9% Surinam .1M 25% Swaziland .046M 10% Thailand 6M 14% Trinidad & Tobago .127M 12% Uganda 4M 36% U.K 1.5M 2.70% U.S.S.R (Russia) 60M 20% U.S.A 3.2M 1.50% Yugoslavia 5M 20% Zaire 2.4M 10% Zambia .7M 15% I may be wrong, but I doubt it. The religion of peace is very consistent.


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To: kman11

Believe anything you like , wake up and see who are killing people and causing problems in the world. If the Muslims who are not guilty of atrocities wish to be distingushed from those who are killing people its time they spoke up and loudly. Its time they started fighting the killers.Instead of making excuses for why they are killing.


41 posted on 09/05/2004 6:50:25 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: Bombardier

Nice post!


43 posted on 09/05/2004 7:59:30 PM PDT by Fast1
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To: Fast1

I know many conflicts today involve Muslims. Seriously, Islam is still operating like the 10th century. It seriously needs reformation.


44 posted on 09/05/2004 8:04:11 PM PDT by Ptarmigan
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I have been there and the Friday noon sermons on loudspeakers are of particular interest since the Word Amerike seems to be used a lot..

Look they have no Clerical Hierarchy only what the cleric feels like teaching if it is hate then so be it.
45 posted on 09/05/2004 8:08:01 PM PDT by Fast1
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To: Fast1

The way to deal with Islam is to have our government officially declare Islam to be a terrorist organization. It's time to call a spade a spade.


46 posted on 09/05/2004 9:33:16 PM PDT by ArmedNReady
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To: Ptarmigan

You are right the number must be 29 of 30.


47 posted on 09/05/2004 9:44:41 PM PDT by Fast1
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Just been there Amazing isn't it? it maybe the Trojan horse of the 21st century.


48 posted on 09/05/2004 9:52:35 PM PDT by Fast1
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To: Fast1

To leave this problem for our children to deal with will mean the end of Western civilization. It's time to throw poliltical correctness out of the door and call it like it is: Islam is not a religion, Islam is a terrorist cult bent on destroying all who do not submit and convert. It is long past the time for civilized people to stand up and demand that our legistators do something about Islam.

Behavior similar to Muslims in not found in any major religion today. This is because these are true religions. Imagine the outrage if just a single Christian minister stood up in church one Sunday and demanded that the church members go out and kill all who are not of the same faith. Even more, imagine the outrage if the church members followed the orders. The U. N. would be demanding that all Christians be "sanctioned". But Christians would never do this. Neither would members of virtually all religions...why?... because these are true religions. Islam is not a religion.

Here are a couple of links to other sites which have very good information on Islam:

http://www.byzantines.net/epiphany/islam.htm
http://www.betar.co.uk/articles/betar1072264293.php
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/

I believe that it is time to start mobilizing against Islam by contacting all local, state and federal legislators demanding that Islam be handled just as any other terrorist organization. Otherwise, Western civilization as we know it will cease to exist, replaced by a barbaric terrorist regime. Anyone willing to set up a website aimed at raising public awareness of Islam and aimed at getting legislation passed classifying Islam as a terrorist organization so that Islam can be fought on a level playing field? A good first step would be for our president to admit that this is not a "War on Terror" but rather a "War on Islamic Terror".


49 posted on 09/06/2004 7:10:31 AM PDT by ArmedNReady
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To bad the apologists, appeasers and enablers do not see the info on this site. It made kman11 open his eyes to the truth. The first three tribes that were conquered by Mohammed were forced into Islam. The one tribe that did not convert had all their men slaughtered and women and children sold into slavery. Islam just got more violent from there. Elimination of Islam, and nothing less, is all that will save us from plunging into a new dark ages.
50 posted on 09/06/2004 7:35:16 AM PDT by firster555
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To: bereanway

I have learned that "fitting the curve" with "statistics" is a very dangerous game. It makes geniuses out of ordinary people. Sometimes ordinary people are actually the 12th angry juror, waiting for a place to display their displeasure.

Having traveled to Nigeria and spent actual time in and researching this country, their economy and the like, I can say with a great deal of certainty that the country is made up of a 60/40 split of christians to muslim people. Most of the islamic believers live in the north and are of Hausa tribal decent.

In the north of Nigeria, they are instituting extreme islamic law called Sharia or you may have seen Shar'ia.

http://home.swipnet.se/~w-93281/islamni1.htm

The bend on imposing islamic law in strict form is called ultra conservatism in the secular sense. In my opinion it is highly oppressive and delimiting of choice, something God has freely given all of mankind.

Newton was correct. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Unfortunately where nature and theology brand their mark on humanity, the opposition to extreme islamic law is freedom, and freedom is a highly reactive concept and element when put into a super-collider with islamic law.

Where islamic fundamentalism differs from a moderate islamic democracy found in Turkey is fear. It is the fear of being tossed into extinction by virtue of the threat of freedom. Accordingly, it is a form of a mono-theism that will ultimately rule itself out of society.

The author has missed an extremely important element in his analysis. Islamic theocracies, in most if not all cases, which have grown to maturity have come from revolultions based out of a petrie dish called poverty. The flip side of this can be seen in our own country which was originally founded in the throes of anglican christianity. Growth in certain chrisian denominations - pentacostal, baptist, non-denominational - have risen out of the ashes of poverty.

Religious zealotry also has its roots in poverty. This is why it is important to improve the quality of life around the world under the breath of democracy. The freedom to chose and to be will always be the opposition of oppresive cultures and governments. In absence of choice and freedom, the oppressed can only thank "the feeding spoon" as an unopposed version of life on earth.

However, in free democratic societies, I do not see a threat of repeated history on assimilation and total cultural decomposition. I do see a threat of violent dissonance. For this reason, I believe it is important to continue to point to moderate islamic societies such as Turkey. The paradigm shift can succeed historic evaluation. The present has the answer for the future, not the past. The past is already gone and no longer exists.


51 posted on 09/06/2004 9:09:29 AM PDT by republidem
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Very interesting, concise messages in these Posts. I know a young Muslim man in GB who hates ALL Muslims, wishes he could personally kill a good part of them, and is ashamed that he is Muslim by heritage and circumstance. I suspect he is not alone, but he is a an intelligent man who is prone to pondering the truth.

However, I believe that the only way we (the non-Muslim world) will ever overcome Islam is by educating the masses. If we have to add a little "pressure" in "appropriate places" then so be it. The Crusades were only a start...we should finish it.

52 posted on 09/06/2004 9:40:28 AM PDT by Monkey Face (I think; therefore, I am overqualified)
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To: ArmedNReady

Nice links thanks.


53 posted on 09/06/2004 3:24:11 PM PDT by Fast1
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