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Sex crimes may be starting younger [Schools report 'fairly graphic' acts in kindergarten]
Houston Chroncile ^ | 9/5/04 | LIZ AUSTIN

Posted on 09/05/2004 4:31:47 PM PDT by freedom44

DALLAS - The arrest of a 12-year-old boy on charges that he molested a 4-year-old girl at a fast-food restaurant playground may point to a growing problem of sexually aggressive children, child-abuse experts say.

The boy was arrested Wednesday in suburban Houston on charges of indecency with a child and aggravated sexual assault. Police would not discuss in detail what happened to the girl, other than to say her mother said she'd been touched inappropriately.

The arrest came a week after the Dallas Independent School District expelled two first-grade boys after one performed a sex act on another during class. While their teacher passed out textbooks, one boy slipped beneath his classmate's desk and performed oral sex on him, district spokesman Donald Claxton said.

Anecdotal evidence suggests that the number of sexually inappropriate incidents among children is increasing, though it is difficult to track such cases, said Sharon K. Araji, a University of Alaska sociology professor who wrote a book on understanding sexually aggressive children.

The problem may be worsening because children are exposed to more graphic sexual imagery at a younger age through racier television programming, the increased availability of Internet pornography and declining parental supervision, clinical psychologist Toni Cavanagh Johnson said. Some sexually aggressive children also are victims of sexual abuse, she said.

All children mimic things they've seen at home or on television, but normal sexual experimentation in the elementary years usually doesn't go far beyond "I'll show you mine, you show me yours" play, Araji said.

The Dallas school district, however, handled about 25 cases of kindergartners who committed sexual assault last year, Claxton said.

While he declined to release details, "suffice it to say there were some fairly graphic things that happened last year involving younger kids," he said.

There are 1,331 juveniles 16 and younger registered on Texas' sex-offender database, Texas Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Lisa Block said. While children 10 and older can be prosecuted in Texas, Block could not break down the number by age.

The Fort Bend County District Attorney's Office, which is handling the 12-year-old boy's case, receives two or three similar cases each month, said Tyra McCollum, the assistant district attorney in charge of the juvenile division.

"Unfortunately we see it quite often," she said. "It's obviously not as common as theft or drugs. It's also not unusual."

The 12-year-old boy, who is not being identified because of his age, is being held in a juvenile detention center while prosecutors weigh the case.

Prosecutors can seek one of two punishments if he is convicted, McCollum said. The lighter sentence would allow the court to have jurisdiction over him until his 18th birthday. He could face up to 40 years in prison under the harsher punishment.

In the Dallas case, an investigator with Child Protective Services also will examine the boys' home lives for an explanation of their behavior, agency spokesman Geoff Wool said.

In such situations, Wool said, CPS caseworkers talk with the child's parents about age-appropriate activities and try to make sure the child is not being abused or abusing others.

While criminal prosecutions are appropriate in severe cases or for repeat offenders, it is important for authorities to make sure sexually aggressive children and their families get counseling, Araji said. Many adult sex offenders began behaving inappropriately at a young age, she said.

"If we get these children when they're very young, when they're beginning the sexually aggressive behavior, we would have a much greater success rate in stopping sexual abuse from continuing," Araji said.


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1 posted on 09/05/2004 4:31:48 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: 2Jedismom; Aquinasfan
How awful.
2 posted on 09/05/2004 4:37:39 PM PDT by Artist
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To: freedom44
The problem may be worsening because children are exposed to more graphic sexual imagery at a younger age through racier television programming, the increased availability of Internet pornography and declining parental supervision, clinical psychologist Toni Cavanagh Johnson said. Some sexually aggressive children also are victims of sexual abuse, she said. All children mimic things they've seen at home or on television, but normal sexual experimentation in the elementary years usually doesn't go far beyond "I'll show you mine, you show me yours" play, Araji said.

Ya think? I can't tell you how many excuses I hear from people. They claim that kids don't get the sexual inuendo so it's just fine. WRONG!!! Kids are much smarter than that. They will stay innocent only if we work to keep them that way. They will grow to be moral people only if we train them that way.

3 posted on 09/05/2004 4:40:07 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: freedom44

Porn madness is feeding the evil.


4 posted on 09/05/2004 4:41:45 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: freedom44

And putting social services in charge of the problem is often like asking the fox to guard the hen house. These people are "educated" into moral relativism. They haven't enough sense to guide these children. It's been educated out of them.


5 posted on 09/05/2004 4:41:52 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: freedom44
two first-grade boys after one performed a sex act on another during class. While their teacher passed out textbooks, one boy slipped beneath his classmate's desk and performed oral sex on him,

I just don't believe 2 first graders can physically have sex - I just don't buy it. How could a first grader even understand such behavior is absolutely beyond me.

I think 40 years is a little harsh. What ever happened to punishing the parents. I barely knew I had a thingy at 12 years old - this is a SICK SICK world.
My wife is due in October and part of me wishes we weren't bringing someone into this bizarre place.
6 posted on 09/05/2004 4:42:16 PM PDT by Southern62
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To: freedom44
While their teacher passed out textbooks, one boy slipped beneath his classmate's desk and performed oral sex on him...

If you take out the word "textbooks", then I think you'll see what really happened...

7 posted on 09/05/2004 4:45:20 PM PDT by Lurking2Long
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To: freedom44

yep. 8 years of Clinton and his "if it feels good, do it" bullspit was great for our country.

there's your legacy, Bill. 1st grade boys giving each other BJs.

Hope your surgeon is drunk.


8 posted on 09/05/2004 5:00:32 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group
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To: freedom44

A friend of mine's son went to spend the night with a friend when he was about 12/13.....told his mother later about turning the TV on late during the night and what they watched (porn)........she had to explain to him that THAT was NOT normal, and how AWFUL it was.....and you can imagine her shock.....and wondering where the parents were!!! She learned a very hard lesson. BUT, I think this is far more common than we think....heck we were at the library the other day, and my almost 13 yo niece saw porno on a computer screen and asked my sister "WHAT is THAT?" Porno as Freedom of Speech is BIZARRO!!! and brings us to what this thread addresses!


9 posted on 09/05/2004 5:01:07 PM PDT by goodnesswins (VICTORY...........brings peace.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group

I believe you can add corporate-sponsored porn to the list of culprits: AT&T, DirectTV, Westin, Marriott, etc.


10 posted on 09/05/2004 5:07:15 PM PDT by FightinFederalist
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To: goodnesswins
The list of major corporations profiting from porn is shocking: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/porn/business/mainstream.html
11 posted on 09/05/2004 5:10:00 PM PDT by FightinFederalist
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To: Southern62

First-graders left unattended at their home computer are smart enough to move around the Net on a browser screen. And I'm not kidding.


12 posted on 09/05/2004 5:16:40 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: freedom44
. . . an investigator with Child Protective Services also will examine the boys' home lives for an explanation of their behavior . . .

I doubt it will be hard to find an "explanation," but what follows from that? At what point can anyone in authority these days say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I don't think there is a point like that anymore.

13 posted on 09/05/2004 5:19:19 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: freedom44

Ugh.

We're starting to see Brave New World around us more and more every day.


14 posted on 09/05/2004 5:20:32 PM PDT by William Martel (Anyone But Kerry in 2004.)
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To: freedom44
The arrest came a week after the Dallas Independent School District expelled two first-grade boys after one performed a sex act on another during class. While their teacher passed out textbooks, one boy slipped beneath his classmate's desk and performed oral sex on him, district spokesman Donald Claxton said.

I hope that they do more than throw the kids out of school. At the risk of sounding like a bleeding heart, those kids need help; that's not normal behavior for first graders. It sounds like one or both of the kids has been sexually abused by someone else.

15 posted on 09/05/2004 5:22:38 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: freedom44

I think more comprehensive sex education, starting in kindergarten, will help a lot. (/sarcasm)


16 posted on 09/05/2004 5:37:53 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The promotion of bad dress codes is the desire of arrogant powers; shame on the government!")
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To: freedom44
Police would not discuss in detail what happened to the girl, other than to say her mother said she'd been touched inappropriately.

Without knowing what the boy did it is pretty hard to comment on this story. Normally you could say that the police would have a good handle on this sort of things. But, today nothing is normal. What did he do? Hug her? Is oogling a form of inappropriate transference touching?

17 posted on 09/05/2004 6:01:48 PM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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To: freedom44

So is it getting to the point that you go to jail if you are a child and play doctor??

I do not understand how a 12 year old can be held in juvenile for sexual assault. Shouldn't counseling be more appropriate? I'm confused and maybe just damn niave.


18 posted on 09/05/2004 6:43:15 PM PDT by sandbar
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To: freedom44

The Decline and Fall of American Civilization continues...


19 posted on 09/05/2004 6:59:50 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Kerry sees two Americas. America sees two John Kerrys. It's mutual.)
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To: freedom44
Another reason to home school.
20 posted on 09/05/2004 7:00:43 PM PDT by Max Combined
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To: sandbar
"So is it getting to the point that you go to jail if you are a child and play doctor?? "

OK. Here is something to think about. Why should an instance of two children having sex even be a crime?

And is there a perpetrator and a victim and how do you tell one from the other?

21 posted on 09/05/2004 7:08:14 PM PDT by OldEagle (Haven't been wrong since 1947, but some are still hoping!)
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To: Artist
The Dallas school district, however, handled about 25 cases of kindergartners who committed sexual assault last year, Claxton said. While he declined to release details, "suffice it to say there were some fairly graphic things that happened last year involving younger kids," he said.

Homeschool bump.

22 posted on 09/06/2004 5:55:53 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Tax-chick
That is what the "Sex Positive" agenda pushes for. The Homosexual Agenda is just the battering ram they use to strike down sex laws.

Age of consent laws mean little today since there is seldom statutory rape prosecution by a DA if both participants are underage or even if one of them is over AOC or even over 18 as long they are both "near" each other in ages.

The Supreme Court sodomy law decision also lowered the age of consent for homosexual act in several states to the age of consent for heterosexual contact. So much for the BS that it would just affect "consenting ADULTS".

The Sex Positive reformers want to indoctrinate children in the ways of sex. They believe that if you practice abstinence you are unhealthy since you deny yourself sex just as they say homosexual "denies" their sexual desires. It is why I counter that by saying polygamy must become the law of the land if homosexuals can marry because otherwise bisexuals have to choose "male or female" when they want BOTH.

In some areas, the sex positive proponents have actually tried to encourage children to "play doctor" in a controlled environment.

"Education" to them means much more than anatomy and disease/birth control. It means techniques and sexual practices/pairings. "Taste the smorgasbord and see what you like."
23 posted on 09/13/2004 8:37:42 PM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: freedom44

Soon the schools won't even have to bother teaching "sex ed" - the kids will be teaching them ... maybe that's been the plan.


24 posted on 09/13/2004 8:50:03 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry accused countless soldiers of committing war crimes that he himself never witnessed . . .)
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To: freedom44

That's terrible. The 12 year old molesting a 4 year old girl at a fast food restaurant happened in Houston. It was news that time. Man, what is with today's kids???????? Seriously, I never heard such a thing like that back then.


25 posted on 09/13/2004 8:51:04 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: weegee

I've only started seeing the term "Sex Positive" recently, but I already don't like it! Not that one's husband would care for "sex negative," but that's another issue ...

As I mentioned on another thread, I don't think any sexual activity among youngsters is appropriate, even if both participants are minors. Obviously, there's some variation - some 17-year-olds are very mature, and ready for marriage and parenthood - but most teens simply don't the reasoning capacity to make good decisions about anything so permanent.

Elementary kids aren't coming up with this stuff on their own. It's got to come from somewhere in their environment - home, friends, daycare, school. Grounds for a child neglect case - unless the authorities are "sex positive" too!


26 posted on 09/14/2004 4:45:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Dick Cheney is MY dark, macho, paranoid Vice President!)
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To: Tax-chick
The operators of this site were hounded out of their online advocacy but they have provided some "helpful" links to others pushing the "Sex Positive" agenda. Of course the controversial "Go Ask Alice" site is there.

http://www.allaboutsex.org/

In the Sex Positive world, it seems that there are no moral judgments made and no acts prohibited although rape seems to be frowned upon. Rape fantasies are okay with them though.
27 posted on 09/14/2004 7:55:21 AM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: weegee

Ick. I'm going to have to discuss our internet security with my husband, again. I shouldn't even have been able to access those sites!


28 posted on 09/14/2004 8:55:15 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Dick Cheney is MY dark, macho, paranoid Vice President!)
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To: Tax-chick
The American Library Association (ALA) has been persuading libraries to add links to "Go Ask Alice" on their youth pages.

There was a flare up in Houston when they had to defend that decision at the Houston Public Library.

The threat is real. Liberals promote sexual activity at all ages. The ALA does not believe in the concept of "age appropriate" materials or activities; if someone asks for it "it is the right age".

I don't post the links to gross people out (and I certainly don't post details of the activities or sexual practices); I post a "white rabbit" that people can follow to learn for themselves about this hidden agenda that lurks behind the homosexual agenda.
29 posted on 09/14/2004 10:54:34 AM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: weegee

Not blaming you! But it seems like the "parental control" on our network should have blocked those.

I'm glad you mentioned the library. I'll have to take a look at the "homework and research" computers next time we visit. Some of the employees have already shown hostility towards the idea that children should have limited access to any materials ... although they seem to follow the rules when a child presents a restricted card.


30 posted on 09/14/2004 12:38:46 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Dick Cheney is MY dark, macho, paranoid Vice President!)
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To: freedom44
As a society, we ply our kids with sex and violence in the form of TV shows, movies, video games, and music. No wonder they are more likely to be 'sexually aggressive' at such an early age.

Garbage in, garbage out.

31 posted on 09/14/2004 12:40:47 PM PDT by MEGoody (Flush the Johns - vote Bush/Cheney 04)
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To: Southern62
"I just don't believe 2 first graders can physically have sex"

My husband works for the local school transportation department. One of the bus drivers caught a first grade girl giving, um, oral sex to a third grade boy.

The parents didn't want to believe it, of course. But I would be willing to bet they frequently watch R rated movies (or worse) with their little girl and think nothing of it.

32 posted on 09/14/2004 12:45:42 PM PDT by MEGoody (Flush the Johns - vote Bush/Cheney 04)
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To: OldEagle
"Why should an instance of two children having sex even be a crime?"

Depends on the ages of the children involved. A 12 year old assaulting a 4 year old is a crime in my book. Yeah, he needs counseling - but he also needs to know he has committed a crime.

He does it again, he goes down the river.

33 posted on 09/14/2004 12:48:18 PM PDT by MEGoody (Flush the Johns - vote Bush/Cheney 04)
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To: Tax-chick

Filter software considers these sites to be "educational" and "kid safe".

Additionally, the ALA's website reportedly told kids how to circumvent such filtering.


34 posted on 09/14/2004 12:56:32 PM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: Max Combined

You are right about homeschooling. We decided to pull our daughter out of school for a similar reason. A kindergarten student was exposing himself to her and others during their lunch break. He was a student that was constantly in trouble and never taken out of the classroom for very long. We were fortunate to be able to take her out and begin homeschooling her and it has been a real benefit.


35 posted on 09/14/2004 1:12:02 PM PDT by spot_the_cat
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To: weegee

OH, great. Thanks for the information :-). Our children are not at this point looking to challenge us on what we do for their protection, but I'm concerned by what they could run into accidentally while do searches for approved purposes.

The software is supposed to help with that ... shoot, it kept me from going to NRA.com to update my address!


36 posted on 09/14/2004 1:16:09 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Dick Cheney is MY dark, macho, paranoid Vice President!)
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To: MEGoody
I didn't mean to inquire about an assault. I should have suggested similar ages and no assault. For sure it would be misbehavior, but a crime?
37 posted on 09/14/2004 4:57:16 PM PDT by OldEagle (Haven't been wrong since 1947, but some are still hoping!)
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To: freedom44
Some sexually aggressive children also are victims of sexual abuse, she said.

That'd be my guess - or they are witnesses to it in their own house,which amounts to the same thing.

38 posted on 09/14/2004 5:09:38 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: spot_the_cat

Good heavens


39 posted on 09/14/2004 5:10:21 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: freedom44
"The problem may be worsening because children are exposed to more graphic sexual imagery at a younger age through racier television programming, the increased availability of Internet pornography and declining parental supervision, clinical psychologist Toni Cavanagh Johnson said. Some sexually aggressive children also are victims of sexual abuse, she said."

I don't suppose 'fisting' and other sexual familiarity lessons in school by perp organizations cannot be faulted for teaching children to be sexually pre-occupied years ahead of their age and sexually pro-active well beyond their ability to consider the concept of self-control and self-responsibility.

40 posted on 09/14/2004 5:21:13 PM PDT by Eastbound ( "Ne'er a Scrooge or a Patsy be")
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To: Eastbound
cannot=can

Concluding with a /sarcasm

41 posted on 09/14/2004 5:28:57 PM PDT by Eastbound ( "Ne'er a Scrooge or a Patsy be")
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To: spot_the_cat
My home-schooled daughter is now a Junior in Chemical Engineering at Rice University in Houston. She is a good, sweet, pleasant person. She and I took a side trip to Dublin, Ireland this past summer together and she was good company.

She just turned 20 years old a couple weeks ago, so we made it through her teen years with a minimum of fussing and fighting.

Homeschooling, very limited television and movie exposure, and regular church attendance help one to raise a good kid.

Good luck to you.
42 posted on 09/14/2004 6:15:40 PM PDT by Max Combined
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To: freedom44

I am NOT having any children!


43 posted on 09/14/2004 6:17:04 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: OldEagle
"I should have suggested similar ages and no assault."

A crime? No. But if caught, the parents need to know, and I would suggest counseling for anyone younger than 16.

After 16, if it were my kid, they'd be grounded until they were 18. But that's just me.

44 posted on 09/15/2004 5:38:18 AM PDT by MEGoody (Flush the Johns - vote Bush/Cheney 04)
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To: Artist

When my daughter was in 1st grade, my wife witnessed a boy showing another boy how to give oral sex using a corn dog. Trailer trash.


45 posted on 09/15/2004 5:40:31 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: freedom44
I think the only thing that has really changed is that when little kids play doctor, the boy gets caught and gets labeled as a sex offender instead of just getting a spanking.

The boy boy thing is a bit different though.

46 posted on 09/15/2004 5:42:43 AM PDT by biblewonk (Neither was the man created for woman but the woman for the man.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group

It's really lame to blame the behavior of those 2 boys on Clinton. Also, your screen name is pretty funny in this context.


47 posted on 09/15/2004 5:43:52 AM PDT by biblewonk (Neither was the man created for woman but the woman for the man.)
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To: Max Combined
My home-schooled daughter is now a Junior in Chemical Engineering at Rice University in Houston. She is a good, sweet, pleasant person. She and I took a side trip to Dublin, Ireland this past summer together and she was good company. She just turned 20 years old a couple weeks ago, so we made it through her teen years with a minimum of fussing and fighting. Homeschooling, very limited television and movie exposure, and regular church attendance help one to raise a good kid. Good luck to you. Thank goodness these kids weren't homeschooled or maybe they were. I like your points about good parenting. More than anything else, it is parenting or the lack of it that influences kids today. I know most of the people here don't believe it, but teachers are among the biggest family advocates out there. We know firsthand what damage divorces do or the difficulties that happen with single parents raising kids (note that not all single parents are in their circumstance by their choice or all divorcees; however, I do think that all gay couple are there by choice, not anything in their genes as they like to claim). We also know what influences strong parents have on their kids AND that a two-parent nuclear (not radioactive) family with at least one spouse (preferrably a stay at home mom) around the kids a lot who spend time with them is the best family situation. I know that the media and other people will tell you different, but that IS the case. We advocate strong families and applaud strong parenting.
48 posted on 11/30/2004 9:44:08 AM PST by moog (a "liberal" teacher)
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