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There's Something Going On in GOP vs. MediaCrats
9/6/04

Posted on 09/06/2004 5:00:06 AM PDT by Timeout

Even before Zell Miller jumped Chris Matthews last week, I noticed something had changed. During the entire week, when an interviewer colored a question with anti-GOP shiboleths, the person being interviewed shot it down...aggressively.

I believe Karl Rove and gang perceives a wounded enemy after the damage the MediaCrats did to themselves over the Swifty story. The blogoshpere whipped their a$$ in that case.

I think the turning point was the Michelle Malkin interview on Hardball. It was such a grand display of the left's rhetorical trick of twisting what a conservative says and mistating their position over and over and over. Michelle was caught flat-footed by it...she should have directly challenged Chris's misquote. I think the Bushies said "never again". Note that Zell Miller, in his tirade against Matthews, referred back to the Malkin case.

It appears to me that, after the Malkin ambush, Rove and company decided it was time to smash the media's biased concept of conservatives. I believe the talking points must have gone out...don't take it anymore. Slap 'em when they preface a question with some insult to conservatives. When David Gergen tried the old trick of tying Zell to southern racists, Laura Ingraham jumped on him like a junkyard dog and forced him to retreat.

It happened time and again last week...conservatives refusing to move on until the host retracted some implication that the GOP is mean, heartless, racist, etc. This is new to me. Did anyone else notice it?


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To: Timeout
I still think it's a deliberate counter-assault. It was too pervasive and simultaneous to be a simple coincidence.



I saw Karl Rove in an interview with Jim Lehrer/Mark Shield/David Brooks where he nicely but firm deflated Mark Shield to absolutely being "Flat"!!!
21 posted on 09/06/2004 5:22:40 AM PDT by danamco
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To: txrangerette

Denny Hastert reminds me of Mike Ditka.


22 posted on 09/06/2004 5:23:03 AM PDT by Timeout (My name is Timeout....and I'm a blogaholic)
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To: Bahbah
I found this practice common in department meetings when I first came to the university---colleagues would throw in "quips" during (supposedly) business discussions. I would immediately hit back with an anti-lib slam, and soon the quips stopped.

It's funny, though: even now when people agree with my points, they usually preface their statements with "I don't usually agree with LS, but . . ." so as to insulate themselves from their colleagues' comments.

23 posted on 09/06/2004 5:23:09 AM PDT by LS
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To: Timeout
I believe the talking points must have gone out...don't take it anymore.

From your lips to the GOP's ears.
I hope so, anyway.
24 posted on 09/06/2004 5:24:39 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan (We childproofed our home, but they are still getting in)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
The truth and 650 thousand trumps lies and 65 million dollars. The socialists can't understand why this can happen. Their entire problem solving consists at throwing money at the problem and when it doesn't help throw more money at it.

Not only that. The left believes that reality can be manufactured and jammed down peoples throats using money. This is what they believe happens with advertising. They believe that advertising tricks people into buying things they do not need or really even want by "slick marketing and packaging" (if you recall they used this phrase when describing Reagan's 1984 campaign).

They really believe this. They believe that advertising manufactures demand out of thin air. They never heard, or don't believe, the old saying "if your product is no good, all the advertising in the world won't get people to buy it."

(steely)

25 posted on 09/06/2004 5:24:57 AM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: Timeout; HuntsvilleTxVeteran
An old complaint about conservatives is that they do not fight as dirty as the DemocRats. Conservatives would rather let facts speak and avoid guttural mudslinging. The problem, of course, is that unless one is teflon, mud sticks and elections are lost. When 9/11 occurred many of us resolved that enough was enough. Conservatives in particular and Republicans in general knew that the nation could no longer tolerate surrender to liberal tactics. We had to get in their faces when they used smears and lies to hide the truth about contemporary blame-America-first liberalism.

That is one part of what we are witnessing now in this campaign. Persons of principle (conservatives) are not sitting still for liberal deceptions. They are shouting back, shoving facts up for scrutiny rather than politely trying to let them speak for themselves.

Part two is that the truth indeed does trump $60 million hate campaigns. But something else plays an important part in this, and that is New Media. Talk radio, cable news, and the blogospheric Internet are letting the truth shine as never before. The facts are more readily available to many more people. Many more people are offering support to those in the arena with ruthless libs who have spewed lies for so long they no longer know what the truth is (a particularly pathological example of this is John Kerry himself).

And then there is Karl Rove. If one took Evil Incarnate James Carville and stripped EIJC of evil, added scruples and consistency, one would approach the intelligent resolution of Karl Rove.

It is an exciting time.

26 posted on 09/06/2004 5:25:46 AM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: Timeout

It's time to do EVERYTHING humanly possible to break the back of the corrupt, socialist, "mainstream" media. These Marxist Socialist front groups have got to be stopped.

Here is what I propose:

1. Get lists of their advertisers and complain about the media Bush hate, manipulation, and deceit campaign.
2. Distribute the contact information for various advertiseers so that all FREEPERS can begin to complain.
3. Use the language of the lefty loonies against them. Note that the media is using hate, manipulation, and deceit against the president and their advertisements are supporting it.
4. Start sending complaints to the Boards of Directors at the parent holding companies. (you can find them here http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/srch-edgar )
5. Start finding other boards that many of the media directors sit on and beging a campaign to THOSE companies of that board member's support of the hate, manipulation, and deception against he president.

If we get on the stick with this, and are persistent, the "old media" can finally be crushed within the months leading up to the campaign. If anyone thinks for 2 seconds that this media is not going to pull out all the stops to ratchet up the anti-Bush hate and deception campaign coming up to this election, you've got another thing coming.

Bill


27 posted on 09/06/2004 5:25:48 AM PDT by woodb01 (Stop the media hate, manipulation, and deception)
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To: Timeout

Hey, who the hell did Franken get into it with? Remember the picture of him standing, pointing his little finger at supposedly some radio producer? What show was the producer from? Any other details?


28 posted on 09/06/2004 5:27:43 AM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: guitfiddlist

I believe the following quote will perfectly describes the left.


"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke


29 posted on 09/06/2004 5:27:46 AM PDT by JoeV1 (The Democrats-The unlawful and corrupt leading the uneducated and blind)
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To: woodb01

Bump. Excellent post!


30 posted on 09/06/2004 5:28:08 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: Timeout
This is new to me. Did anyone else notice it?

I missed Laura Ingraham, but I saw Zell go after Chrissy. If your hypothesis is true, all I can say is, it's about frickin' time!

The conservatives have always come across as a bit too timid to me. Always better to play offense, rather than defense.

31 posted on 09/06/2004 5:28:34 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Use It Or Lose It

When you read the transcript of the interview it's easy to see why Zell was mad. Matthews asked questions with implied answers and never gave Miller a chance at rebuttal.
Isn't that a breach of interview etiquette?
Why is Matthews/MSNBC proud of this?

"Maybe it's a shotgun tactic to improve ratings."
A shotgun tactic aimed at their own foot?


32 posted on 09/06/2004 5:28:38 AM PDT by Ludicrous
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To: danamco

A perfect examle was Karl Rove's interview where he said he thought Kerry's anti-war activities were fair game in the campaign. MediaCrats had to reach for the smelling salts on that one. They thought their politically correct demands for demureness would preclude any such declarations from conservatives...especially a high level Bush official! Republicans are supposed to shy away from controversy!

Rove sliced and diced any confidence they still had in their ability to control the message. It was beautiful to see.


33 posted on 09/06/2004 5:29:08 AM PDT by Timeout (My name is Timeout....and I'm a blogaholic)
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To: Timeout
Yes but will they keep it up?

There will be no shortage of opportunities in the upcoming days.

The leftists in the MSM need to be put on notice.

Their time is over.

This election is their last battlefield.

34 posted on 09/06/2004 5:29:52 AM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: muawiyah

I am so glad that I am not a liberal.


35 posted on 09/06/2004 5:29:58 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Timeout
Matthews needs to have his face rearranged.
36 posted on 09/06/2004 5:30:08 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: Timeout

They had better get tough. Kerry is bringing in every dirt thrower he can to save his failing campaign.


37 posted on 09/06/2004 5:32:20 AM PDT by surrey
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To: LS

Nice description. I've had some experience with faculty meetings myself. The assumption is always that we all agree so it is safe to make such remarks. Nice to know your are out there on the front lines.


38 posted on 09/06/2004 5:33:02 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: txrangerette

The swipe GWB took at the New York Times was long overdue. Until the Republicans hit the media, full force, it will be the same old bias. I had great hopes for FOX. We need more anchors like Brit Hume. It's time we began making our voices heard. Continuous emails until Fox can NOT ignore us any longer. We must keep Zell's speech alive.

I was sicken to see JC Watts, and many Republicans tip toe over the media bias issue. I ask you, what do we have to lose? What are we afraid of?


39 posted on 09/06/2004 5:33:07 AM PDT by sarasotarepublican
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To: txrangerette
I saw a news program last night hosted by Sam Donaldson, featuring Maureen Dowd, and Chris Matthews. They were falling all over each other talking about the brilliance of the Republican Convention. (I almost fell off the couch!)

They looked like whipped puppies... they certainly were not a happy bunch.

40 posted on 09/06/2004 5:33:10 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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