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Excess Frugality leads to... A Range Mishap (1911 KaBoom)
The Gun Zone ^ | Patrick A. Rogers

Posted on 09/06/2004 10:41:57 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR

A short-sighted Gunsite student is now short a Series 70 Colt

Series 70 Colt's Government Model after firing a .45 ACP round with a fired .40 S&W cartridge lodged in the BarSto barrel.

Besides being an ugly gun (the only saving grace are the Novak sights...) and having something soooo retro - and unsafe - as a trigger shoe, the owner/operator of said Series 70 did - because he was:

  1. Cheap
  2. Stupid
  3. Both of the above

      ...pick up from the deck a live round of ammunition, with which to continue his 350 class at Gunsite.

Unfortunately, while the pistol is .45 ACP, he picked up a .40 caliber round.

The 'Smithy says:

The .40 round apparently fired, and the case was left somewhere in the chamber. He pressed again and got a click. He applied immediate action... the .45 round pushed the .40 case into the chamber. He pressed the trigger. The .45 round pushed the case partially out of the barrel. The .45 projectile remained in the barrel. The .45 case remained in place against the breachface.

The force went down, splitting the Bar-Sto barrel and bending the dust cover.

Deformed dust cover and rent BarSto barrel

I have always said that some people shouldn't have guns (especially lately - the increase in the number of incidents by students - who all have had exposure to guns, training and such - is rising dramatically) or cars, or children, or oxygen.

I do not permit students to bend over on the line unless i give them permission to do so. This has always been a safety issue. Bending down to pick something up means you are loosing situational awareness. I will permit retrieving magazines and such when the line is clear and I give the command.

But picking up ammunition????? How stupid is that?

This guy apparently was upset that his faithful (but ugly) companion of lo so many years was ruined. And for what? Saving a few cents?

FYI: I was not present when this act of frugality occurred.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 1911; 40ina45; bang; banglist; frugality; kaboom; series70colt; situationalawareness
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.40S&W in a .45, definately NOT the guns fault. The bonehead is lucky he still has fingers.
1 posted on 09/06/2004 10:41:59 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR
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To: TERMINATTOR

Well, the grips and the trigger shoe look salvageable,
so it's not a total loss.


2 posted on 09/06/2004 10:44:55 AM PDT by Boundless
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To: TERMINATTOR

Very odd 1911 configuration, almost as if somebody had made a newbie a "deal" on this thing when the newbie didn't want to pay Kimber, Les Baer, Ed Brown, etc... prices. I can't imagine anyone who'd had a 1911 that long to not know the difference between a .40 S&W and a .45 ACP cartridge almost instinctively.


3 posted on 09/06/2004 10:46:10 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (W-04!)
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To: Eaker

You OK bud? :)


4 posted on 09/06/2004 10:46:42 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (W-04!)
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To: TERMINATTOR
Besides being an ugly gun

The author looses all credability with this remark.

5 posted on 09/06/2004 10:47:28 AM PDT by 11Bush
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To: TERMINATTOR
Ugly gun? Perhaps AFTER the KaBoom.

The 1911 is the best looking semiauto pistol ever made.

6 posted on 09/06/2004 10:52:21 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: 11Bush

Gunsite is pretty expensive for a newbie...I would rather have an $800 1911 than an $800 class.


7 posted on 09/06/2004 10:54:04 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: TERMINATTOR
oh no...you just had to post this.....

My X in one of her fits (mea culpa)...in a fit of vindictiveness (again mea culpa) made made off with my series 70 Commander sold it for about a tenth of what it was worth...my favorite sidearm (my baby)....disappeared one day..back in the middle 80s....

He had such a great gun...and he ruined it....to take such a trophy and stuff a 40 S&W in it
and at Gunsite of all places...

What a putz....he will never live this down..poor fellow...at least it was only his pride and his pistol...

Cant believe they let him shoot that Colt with all the junk hanging off it....

sniff sniff ....poor ole Colt... Series 70 Commander......sniff sniff
8 posted on 09/06/2004 10:58:54 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: BurbankKarl

Squared trigger guard series 70? Was this a reworked Swenson?


9 posted on 09/06/2004 10:59:18 AM PDT by TFL-Thumper
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To: joesnuffy

I noticed my Xwife was also missing ...several months later


10 posted on 09/06/2004 10:59:55 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: joesnuffy

oops not a commander Govt model....who cares then...


11 posted on 09/06/2004 11:00:56 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: TERMINATTOR

What's a trigger shoe?


12 posted on 09/06/2004 11:01:28 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: BurbankKarl

ahh, check that....a $1200 class? and another $400 for ammo?

That is some ching! Although, somewhere along the way the shooter didnt learn to clear his .45 He can go buy a nice Kimber to help get over losing Old Betsy


13 posted on 09/06/2004 11:01:29 AM PDT by BurbankKarl (.)
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To: TERMINATTOR
Once, in the heat of battle (quail hunting with my trusty pumpgun), I swung to a bird and......... click, just click. I couldn't believe it.

Upon inspection, I found that I had chambered a roll of wintergreen lifesavers.

14 posted on 09/06/2004 11:04:36 AM PDT by umgud (speaking strictly as an infidel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: Mr. Mojo

The 1911 is the best looking gun, but this example is not a great one. A tigger shoe? Jeeze. A square trigger guard, a weird 70s style that thankfully has died out. The grips, horrible. The silver highlights on a black gun, tacky. It's a time piece, at best. Well now it has been converted to an object lesson.


15 posted on 09/06/2004 11:05:15 AM PDT by Jack Black (i)
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To: BurbankKarl

Sure he did. He tapped, racked, and banged just like he was taught. Doesn't work so well with a mangled .40 case halfway down the pipe, though.


16 posted on 09/06/2004 11:07:12 AM PDT by TFL-Thumper
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To: BurbankKarl

Gunsite is pretty expensive for a newbie...I would rather have an $800 1911 than an $800 class.



In a gunfight, I'll bet on the guy with $1000 of training and a $100 gun, over the guy with $100 of training and a $1000 gun.

Granted, the only thing worse than no training is no gun.


17 posted on 09/06/2004 11:11:58 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Dog Gone
What's a trigger shoe?

An attachment that is bolted on with small allen screws to make the trigger wider. Good idea on a bullseye type target gun, but not the best idea for a combat pistol.

18 posted on 09/06/2004 11:13:01 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (W-04!)
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To: TFL-Thumper

What is the deal with the square trigger guard? Did someone cannibalize some sort of race gun to make that piece up? That is most certainly not a stock colt frame.


19 posted on 09/06/2004 11:13:32 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (The first rule of gunfighting is to have a gun...more than one, if possible..)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Thank you for the explanation. I'd never seen one before.


20 posted on 09/06/2004 11:15:19 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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