"Out Now" say Iraq War Veterans (or, 2 budding young Kerrys)

My oldest son was there from day one and spent a year in Iraq with the 101st. When they went in under the assumption that WMD were going to be used all units were supplied with the necessary NBC gear. My youngest arrived in Iraq last month and he was still issued NBC gear, he was given extensive training in NBC threats before going over there.

I wasn't getting information second hand. The stories my oldest boy came home to tell would set my hair on ends. Haji's who would work in the camps by day and mortar them at night. He talked of the Kurds in the area who had been subject to Saddam's chemicals they were very real and not all if any came from the US. We had many heated letter and email exchanges over the past year as some of the guys in his unit were so brainwashed by the MSM that they had forgotten how to think for themselves.

Yes its very hard to tell friend from foe but for many serving in Iraq the enemy is from within the US and we have kerry, moore, mediafund, and the resurgence of VVAW to thank for it.

Said the only WMDs were those that "we" sold Saddam before the war.

Oh, god, not THAT one. The only "WMD" we SUPPOSEDLY sold to Saddam were molds and such which anyone could grow. That a soldier is thinking this is truly frightening. (Nesmax had a listing of all the weapons sold by Germany and Russia to Iraq.)

A friend also knows someone who came back who spoke similarly. This will probably draw some fire, but one can't see the whole picture from over there, the way we can't understand what each individual soldier's experience.

This is now just a small group, maybe 35 or 40 people, being helped and formed indeed by the "Vietnam Veterans Against the War", the group formed in the 1960's that John Kerry had a hand in. But these mostly young men, recently returned from Iraq, are having quite an impact on people's conscience with the stories that they tell.

Oh, really? Well, let's hear those stories.

SERRA: Uh, when I went into Iraq we were told they had weapons of mass destruction, you know, our country was under a threat, and for us in the Marine Corps, especially the infantry, it was kinda like the Superbowl. We were ready to go. The country was calling. It was time to go. We went in and once we, uh.....once the fighting started getting very strange, and what I mean by "strange" is civilians getting in the way, the foreign fighters coming into the country wearing civilian clothing...um...all of the...the objectives kinda changing a little bit. Before we got to Baghdad, I decided right there and then, you know..."This is wrong." Things were not right here....I think my sentiments really changed when I came home and I still believe we weren't there for the right reasons and you know, "Saddam Hussein had to fall" and that's....that's why we were there. When I came home and started hearing what the Administration was saying about "Well, maybe there are weapons of mass destruction, maybe there aren't" and "Maybe we don't know if they're an imminent threat". We were lied to and I felt very cheated.
RYABOB: Um, for myself, before going into Iraq, I felt like nobody's real crazy about going to war, but I felt something really needed to be done....At the same time I did have reservations about the actual reasons that we were going there because the things that were told to us in the media as far as weapons of mass destruction and Iraq being a threat, things like that, I really didn't mind those too much....After Iraq, after coming back home, really settling down and letting things sink in and watching the body count rise on both sides on the news and in the media really turned my viewpoint 180 degrees from before the war being that there was something that had to be done to that moment that I realized we never should've went into Iraq and something needs to be done about the situation.

Oooh. Compelling.

"Said the only WMDs were those that "we" sold Saddam before the war."

"We" meaning the French and the Soviets I assume? Sounds like he has gotten hold of some nasty Leftist propoganda.

I would have to agree. I will be spending more time with him to see what he is really thinking.

I can certainly see a change in him from the time he left til he came home.

boxerblues, we appreciate your son's service and your sacrifice as he was there. I suspect it is harder for the parent than it is for the son.

We have vets from Viet Nam, Korea and WWII in our church. I am hoping they will be good resources for my friend.

CONE: Are you working with Bobby Muller?
SERRA: Uhhhhh....Bobby Muller...
CONE:..Of Vietnam Veterans Against the War?

SERRA: Actually, I haven't met him.

Dodged the question, the answer is yes.

Beavis and Butthead strike again.

It would be funny if these guys were still military, I think their COs would like to know what they're up to!

"I did mean Iraq. But I wouldnt' be surprised that these Iraq veterans would turn out to be as phony, as some of Kerry's VVAW Vietnam vets. "

They are probably two regular guys whose parents were approached by the Kerry team. Registered Dems. They were offered a nice chunk of change to talk bad about the war. They were probably told that once Kerry was in office that there would be jobs waiting for them. The parents told their kids to do this, that they could use the extra cash.

Basically the Kerry camp made an offer that neither could refuse.

I just sent this:

Gentlemen,
I'm thinking you all are too young to understand that you're following in the footsteps of one of the most shameful, bogus groups ever to organize within our United States. I'm sure they're organizing with you, so I'll be brief.

Please go to www.wintersoldier.com and read about the activities of the people with whom you are associating. Did you know they aligned themselves with our nation's enemies during the seventies, recruiting young, uneducated soldiers and Marines by luring them to "rock concerts" and having them watch Red Chinese propaganda films? This was like a cult, and you guys are headed in the same direction.

I'm the widow of a Force Recon Marine, and engaged to a MGySgt. on active duty right now. I'm 43. My father was killed in the Vietnam war.

I love you guys for what you've done for our country. Heck, my husband might have been your drill instructor! I respect your right to not LIKE what's happening right now. But I'm more than anything concerned that you don't know the kind of crowd you're getting into. These issues run deep. When you look into the background of this anti-war movement, you'll see all kinds of foreign influence as well as activists who made their living as protestors. Is this how you intend to be more productive as you move forward with your lives?

You can become politically active within your communities without undermining your friends' efforts overseas. I encourage you to work through our system, don't align yourselves with people who have ulterior political agendas. Don't shame the uniform you once were so proud of. Don't drag our country down the same path we were on in the '70s.

Above all, please do some more reading on geo-political affairs. President Bush is looking at the big picture, and he knows that taking this fight to the terrorists overseas, rather than waiting for another 9-11-like attack (or worse, an NBC attack in a major city), is the way to go.

Thank you so much for your service. Please consider that Americans are proud of you, and your efforts did make a difference (i.e. liberating the kids' prison, stopping Sadam's nuke program). Do not discount your achievements. You were an integral part of a very LARGE mission.

Sincerely,
Me
(I actually did sign my name. Hope it was safe)

I think you nailed it. Thank You.

Excellent letter. Your unique background makes it all the more powerful.

God bless you.