Cheney Warns Against Vote for Kerry

MyWay News/AP ^ | September 7, 2004 | AMY LORENTZEN

[Stoat]

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) - Vice President Dick Cheney on Tuesday warned Americans about voting for Democratic Sen. John Kerry, saying that if the nation makes the wrong choice on Election Day it faces the threat of another terrorist attack.

The Kerry-Edwards campaign immediately rejected those comments as "scare tactics" that crossed the line.

"It's absolutely essential that eight weeks from today, on Nov. 2, we make the right choice, because if we make the wrong choice then the danger is that we'll get hit again and we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the standpoint of the United States," Cheney told about 350 supporters at a town-hall meeting in this Iowa city.

If Kerry were elected, Cheney said the nation risks falling back into a "pre-9/11 mind-set" that terrorist attacks are criminal acts that require a reactive approach. Instead, he said Bush's offensive approach works to root out terrorists where they plan and train, and pressure countries that harbor terrorists.

(AP) Vice President Dick Cheney speaks to supporters as he sits with his wife Lynne during a town hall... Full Image

Cheney pointed to Afghanistan as a success story in pursuing terrorists although the Sept. 11 mastermind, Osama bin Laden, remains at large. In Iraq, the vice president said, the United States has taken out a leader who used weapons of mass destruction against his own people and harbored other terrorists.

"Saddam Hussein today is in jail, which is exactly where he belongs," Cheney said.

Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards issued a statement, saying, "Dick Cheney's scare tactics crossed the line today, showing once again that he and George Bush will do anything and say anything to save their jobs. Protecting America from vicious terrorists is not a Democratic or Republican issue and Dick Cheney and George Bush should know that."

Edwards added that he and Kerry "will keep American safe, and we will not divide the American people to do it."

The candidates are campaigning hard for Iowa's seven electoral votes. Democrat Al Gore narrowly won the state in 2000. Bush has campaigned in the state five times in the last month, and Cheney has made three stops.

Hours before Cheney spoke, the Congressional Budget Office said this year's federal deficit will hit a record $422 billion. Cheney, in praising Bush's tax cuts, noted that the CBO said this year's projected deficit will be smaller than analysts had expected.

[Stoat]

Once again, our Vice President speaks the obvious, documentable truth and the response from Kerry's side is incoherent hysteria. If Kerry/Edwards dispute the assertions that V.P. Cheney put forth, how about telling us why he is wrong instead of this juvenile, hysterical response?

What Edwards is, in effect, saying is: "Yes, the Vice President is absolutely correct, but it's political suicide to say so and so we will just whine like children instead"

[QQQQQ]

"If Kerry were elected, Cheney said the nation risks falling back into a "pre-9/11 mind-set" that terrorist attacks are criminal acts that require a reactive approach. Instead, he said Bush's offensive approach works to root out terrorists where they plan and train, and pressure countries that harbor terrorists. "


Exactly. The terrorists will win, if Kerry gets elected. Plain and simple truth.

[Freemyland]

"Dick Cheney's scare tactics crossed the line today, showing once again that he and George Bush will do anything and say anything to save their jobs. Protecting America from vicious terrorists is not a Democratic or Republican issue and Dick Cheney and George Bush should know that."

Geez, do all these guys do is whine?

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

Isn't it true, since 9-11-01, that the countries hit at home by terrorists are those that have displayed some significant degree of weakness? And those being hit in Iraq include the weak in addition to the strong? Based on recent history, a display of weakness is tantamount to begging to be hit.

[SeeRushToldU_So]

See Dick speak the truth. Run Dick run.

Give 'em hell Mr Vice President!

[meeps]

I just love Dick Cheney. He is blunt and to the point. He may not be as good looking or as personable as Edwards, but he is smart and knows his stuff. He is truely the right man for the job. He is not aiming to be President in 4 more years. He is actually serving America!

[Kackikat]

Dick Cheney is right on.

[StarCMC]

If Kerry were elected, Cheney said the nation risks falling back into a "pre-9/11 mind-set" that terrorist attacks are criminal acts that require a reactive approach.

EXACTLY!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

John Kerry directly contributed to the lies of the anti war movement AND caused deaths and injuries
to US Military serving in Vietnam AND
directly caused deaths from injuries at home AND countless suicides because of his false testimony.

John Kerry is not fit to be elected dog catcher let alone President of the United States.
ANYONE who votes for Kerry AFTER knowing this data
is guilty of covering up John Kerry's war crimes!

John Kerry, director of the Vietnam Veterans against the War,
testified before special session the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
April 22, 1971

KERRY GAVE TESTIMONY BASED UPON FALSE INFORMATION
THAT KERRY KNEW AHEAD OF TIME TO BE FALSE!



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[sgtbono2002]

What does Edwards know? He is a frickin Tort lawyer for Gods sake. He may know how to make millions from bad mouthing physicians and bamboozling juries ,but we are talking about the future of America here ,not a case where lying to a juy means fabulous rewards.

[Stoat]

"Isn't it true, since 9-11-01, that the countries hit at home by terrorists are those that have displayed some significant degree of weakness? And those being hit in Iraq include the weak in addition to the strong? Based on recent history, a display of weakness is tantamount to begging to be hit."

You're absolutely correct of course, and one tangible example is Israel's wall. Although one could hardly say that Israel was "weak" prior to it's construction (unless one suggests that nuking the Palestinians would have been a better response....hmmm I'll get back to you on that LOL) it's easy to see the differences:

1. Before the wall: Near-constant and daily terror attacks from homicide bombers and other vermin.

2. After the wall: Terror attacks MUCH rarer...dramatic change.

Lesson: Tune out the hysterical appeasers of terror and do whatever it takes to protect yourself in a substantive way....and your country will be safer.

[luvbach1]

The voters need only ask themselves why muslim extremists, terrorists, euro wimps, communists, and Michael Moore and the far left are united in their preference for John Kerry. It's certainly not because they think he would better prosecute the War on Terror.Naturally, all of the aforementioned loathe President Bush.Know ye a man by his enemies.GWB has the best (worst)of them.

[crazyhorse691]

Has the JFK/Breckboy ticket discovered the fountain of youth?
They keep referring to some line that Bush and Cheney keep crossing. Well, whose line is it and who gave them permission to just leave it laying around? They are certainly full of themselves showing anger over the linecrossing of a line that nobody else seems to be able to see. Now, if it was a schoolyard and JFK/Breckboy were 10 years old.....

[mrsmith]

"Who loves ya, baby?"

[bayourod]

"...if we make the wrong choice then the danger is that we'll get hit again and we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating... "

Checkmate! Kerry has now been forced to assure the electorate that he will do as much or more to prevent another attack than Bush will.

But Bush uses preemptive military action whereas Kerry is only willing to use military force in retaliation AFTER the attack, thus assuring an attack.

[TXBubba]

Edwards added that he and Kerry "will keep American safe, and we will not divide the American people to do it."

Which of the 2 Americas is he talking to here?

[midftfan]

Kerry is constantly flip-flopping on the Iraq issue. We can't have someone with no core beliefs leading us at this moment in history.

[VRWC_minion]

The Kerry team is like Charlie Brown when Lucy promises to not pull the football. They just cannot help themselves. Clinton told them to stay off of terrorism, vietnam etc and focus on economy, jobs etc. If Edwards just ignored the grenade it would have fell flat and the MSM would ingore it. Instead by responding they make the issue of terror the lead story, which is their weakest point.

I think Roves job is too easy.

[Stoat]

"I just love Dick Cheney. He is blunt and to the point. He may not be as good looking or as personable as Edwards, but he is smart and knows his stuff. He is truely the right man for the job. He is not aiming to be President in 4 more years. He is actually serving America!"

Agreed. It will be a tremendous loss for our nation four years from now when our Vice President's next term ends and he retires.

Although he has a supremely intelligent and talented wife (bio here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/mrscheney/bio.html ) I have not heard her make any statements indicating an interest in running for public office. I know that one of his two daughters is an activist homosexual and therefore probably unelectable, at least to a national office, I don't know about the other daughter. Perhaps she is interested in public service also? She would be hard-pressed to find a better inspiration than her father.

[DJ Frisat]

"Protecting America from vicious terrorists is not a Democratic or Republican issue..."

Absolutely correct. (for a change) It is an issue for a president with moral clarity, unwavering consistency and the patriotism to put what's good for his country ahead of his own personal ambitions in the face of a brutal onslaught of lies and character assassination.

It's a job for President George W. Bush, not the flapjack man and his boy lawyer.

[don-o]

Give 'em hell, Dick.

Cheney replied, "No, I just tell the truth, and that French lookin' feller thinks it's hell."

[mwl1]

I want to know if we have Kerry's comment today about being "confused and having trouble making up his mind" on tape.

I don't care if it's out of context, it's relevant.

[Milligan]

No sense changing horses when your pulling a heavy load up hill. I like my horses. They're my Clydesdales. The other horses are high strung pretty boys not meant for heavy hauls.

Bush Team! 4 More Years!

[don-o]

how about telling us why he is wrong instead of this juvenile, hysterical response?

"I WON'T HAVE IT!! I won't! I won't! I won't! I won't! I won't! I won't! I won't! I won't! I won't! I won't! I won't! I won't! I won't! I won't! I won't! I won't! I won't!

[pray4liberty]

Who's got the crybaby picture? Kerry's reaction is typical of the girly-men's hissy fits. I can just see him stamping his foot, putting his hands on his hips and saying "Well!"

[petercooper]

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[pete anderson]

Sounds like he is guaranteeing that if he and the President are reelected that we will not be attacked again.

[Hi Heels]

Bottom line, the last thing we need after watching 400 kids killed and shot in the back is a president who is "sensitive" to terrorism or has some "anti-war" issues.

My brother committed suicide after 18 months in 'Nam. He returned injured and was subjected to degradation, spit, insults, drug addition, unemployment, etc. Kerry is an insult to all the men who served over there.

[Stoat]

"Sounds like he is guaranteeing that if he and the President are reelected that we will not be attacked again"

Perhaps you might care to re-read the article, because nowhere in it is such a thing even remotely suggested, nor has it been suggested or implied by any statements from the Administration.

Naturally, the Vice President was speaking in terms of degree and likelihood. Terrorists are, of course, more likely to strike a weak nation than a strong one. One of the only consistent positions of Kerry has been in his refusal to endorse any form of proactive stance toward terrorism, preferring to adopt the approach of appeasement and endless, unenforced non-decisions via the U.N.

It's precisely this sort of blatant misrepresentation that will help Bush and Cheney in their reelection bid, as the vast majority of Americans are not dumb enough to buy it.

Please keep it up! You're helping our President tremendously!

[Indie]

If people think we're too soft on terror now [an arguable point], just wait until an EFnK were to be elected. You could kiss us all goodbye, because the scum would KNOW they could hit us and get NO response [except whining and indecision] from a Kerry presidency.

Thank God for Bush and Cheney at this point in history.

A vote for KommieKerry is a vote to dissolve the Constitution and our Republic. They already want to dissolve the Electoral College system, ban guns, destroy marriage, continue to kill babies in an even more unrestrictive way, tax anyone with a job, burn down churches [Waco], destroy our ability to defend ourselves, destroy our sovereignty...I could go on forever.

Stop these nazi socialists now. I know what traitors deserve; should I say it?

[Stoat]

There's no need to hold back...tell us what you REALLY think :-) "just kidding"

[sonofatpatcher2]

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[Timeout]

I hate to be the skunk at the tea party---and I'm as big a Cheney fan as you'll find---but I think Cheney's words were, well, "inelegant". Now that the Breck Girl has done his whiny reposte, it would be very magnanimous of Cheney to come out and say he did not mean it the way it came out.
(Although Cheney is not known for mis-speaking.)

On the other hand....it may have been a very artful bait to put Team Kerry into that petulant, whining frame of mind they were in the entire month of August.

All that said, I didn't like the comment when I saw it. And I love the guy!

[Stoat]

Sorry, but I don't think that the Vice President has anything to apologize for. He spoke the obvious, documentable truth.

Sometimes the truth is inelegant, but we are at war and elegance needs to take a back seat to the defense of our nation.

I applaud him for his speech and I hope that he continues with similar themes in his speeches in the days ahead.

[Timeout]

Please, don't take offense. I agree with everything Bush and Cheney have done in the WOT. We just happen disagree on this small quote...and I don't even disagree that strongly. Actually, the more I think about it, I think there's some kind of strategery behind it.

[Stoat]

Speaking the truth, as our President and Vice President do, is always the best strategy :-)

The American public, at least those who are fully awake, is sick of Oprahfied spin. They understand that our nation and our culture are under attack by an enemy who cares nothing for nuance, "sensitivity" and appeasement. They want you, me,your families and everyone we know DEAD. That's all they care about....our President and Vice President understand this, and they know that the majority of the American public understands it as well, and they demand (and deserve) the unvarnished truth.

It's quite refreshing. :-)

[beyond the sea]

"It's absolutely essential that eight weeks from today, on Nov. 2, we make the right choice, because if we make the wrong choice then the danger is that we'll get hit again and we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the standpoint of the United States,"

I'm 100% for Bush/Cheney, but I think Cheney said this very badly. It does come off as a threat. He could have said it better.

[beyond the sea]

He may not be as good looking or as personable as Edwards, but he is smart and knows his stuff.

John Edwards: The political equivalent of breast implants.

[Stoat]

Well, I would suggest that the prospect of a Kerry Presidency is indeed a threat to the security of our nation, and the Vice President is "telling it like it is", as is is habit.

I think that we are unused to our elected officials, particularly the Vice President, in being quite so direct and this may strike some as being overly harsh. During these times, however, I believe that it's essential to make it clear that we must not follow a "business as usual" (endless appeasement of terrorists, terror supporting states and the U.N.)approach, but a more substantive one. This requires a change in style for delivering the message, and it may take a while to get used to.

My hope is that his speaking the honest, unvarnished truth won't turn off too many people but will instead help to illustrate some of the many distinctions that exist between President Bush, Vice President Cheney and their detractors.

[sonofatpatcher2]

Re: "He may not be as good looking or as personable as Edwards..."

I think you are wrong. I was at the grocery store this afternoon and I over heard two women about my age (50s) and one said, "I think John Edwards looks like a ken doll."

The other replied, "I'd rather have a Cheney doll. He looks like he has all his parts and knows how to use them!"

Now, I'm male and think the Veep looks like a Vice-President should. John Edwards looks like a... Well, a crooked laywer!

[dufekin]

Well, no, not exactly. Kerry wouldn't merely adopt the Clinton strategy against terror (wait until a major scandal brews, then fire a $10 million cruise missile to blow a $10 empty tent into the dorsal end of a camel). He likely would adopt the same strategy that he used in Vietnam (the defining issue of this campaign). That meas open treason, siding with the terrorists, disparaging our military, encouraging kidnappers and demoralizing abductees, and blaming the victims of the terrorists.

But Kerry won't be elected, thank....

[bitt]

I just love Dick Cheney. He is blunt and to the point. He may not be as good looking or as personable as Edwards, but he is smart and knows his stuff. He is truely the right man for the job. He is not aiming to be President in 4 more years. He is actually serving America!

Cheney might as well ask Edwards if he wants to stand on the same stage with him every day, so that he can jump and whine even QUICKER whenever Cheney says anything.

Edwards reminds me of someone's little brother always hanging around and aping the big boys, but louder, and always finishing off with "my brother can beat you UP!"

Edwards is not ready for prime time, and anyone who pretends that he is might take a few minutes to reflect upon what doo-doo our country would be in if a not-completed-one term Senator, former trial lawyer, were suddenly in charge of the country.

[Auntie Dem]

John Edwards: The political equivalent of breast implants.

John Kerry: The political equivalent of a dildo.

(Think about it for a minute)

[snugs]

**Isn't it true, since 9-11-01, that the countries hit at home by terrorists are those that have displayed some significant degree of weakness? And those being hit in Iraq include the weak in addition to the strong? Based on recent history, a display of weakness is tantamount to begging to be hit.**

How correct Spain back tracked got hit, now Russia we keep saying in UK when are we going to get it but is it the case we have not been attached yet because we have not wavered.

[snugs]

"Who loves ya, baby?"

I do

[nmh]

He's right. Even a moron couldn't be confused at how simply he put it. Most Demoncrats are very DUMB.

[snugs]

**Re: "He may not be as good looking or as personable as Edwards..."
I think you are wrong. I was at the grocery store this afternoon and I over heard two women about my age (50s) and one said, "I think John Edwards looks like a ken doll."

The other replied, "I'd rather have a Cheney doll. He looks like he has all his parts and knows how to use them!" **

I like it I am sure Lynne would agree but seriously Edwards tries to look and act much younger than he is so does Kerry and it just does not cut. The VP is 63 and acts 63 that does not mean he is out of touch and old in his thinking but behaves in a dignified manner.

Furthermore as the VP he has every right to warn people on security and to elect Kerry as your President IMHO would be a threat to your security.

[WestVirginiaRebel]

If this campaign were Happy Days, Dick Cheney would be the Fonz and Edwards would be Potsie Webber.

[nohangups]

For whatever reason, Cheney seems to have offered a swift but unintelligible retraction --- at least of the DUmmies can be believed. I don't see signs of it anywhere else.