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The New York Times Fingers Judao-Christians in Beslan Deaths
The Dawn Patrol via The Corner (KJL) ^ | Tuesday, September 07, 2004 | The Dawn Patrol

Posted on 09/07/2004 6:17:23 PM PDT by chiller

I know that's a strong headline, but imagine you're a person who only gets his or her news from the New York Times. For many people, that isn't much of a stretch.

You open up today's Times to the Page 3 feature on the Beslan horror. It doesn't mention that the terrorists were Muslims.

I know, I know. The sun rose today in the east, the sky is blue, roses are red, and the Times won't call terrorists Muslim. What else is new?

How about altering a quote specifically to remove any implication that the Beslan terrorists were Muslims?

The wire services reported, in a quote printed in thousands of newspapers, that the captured Beslan terrorist said, "By Allah, I did not shoot."

Today's Times piece quotes him as saying, "By God, I did not shoot"—a translation that no other news organization has used.

In other words, the Times wanted so badly to leave Islam out of its Beslan feature that it altered the terrorist's quote.

This is more than political correctness. This is the deliberate alteration of a news quote to create the false impression that a terrorist follows the Judao-Christian God and not Allah.

This is an outrage.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beslanmassacre; mediabias
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To: chiller
To the NYTimes and the Boston Globe, the Islamic terrorists
are "Holy Warriors".
21 posted on 09/07/2004 6:40:36 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Cuius rei demonstrationem mirabilem sane detexi hanc marginis exiguitas non caperet.)
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To: chiller

Why are we not surprised? Al Jazeera on the Hudson.


22 posted on 09/07/2004 6:41:53 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Lijahsbubbe

"Collusion" is the exact word he used I believe. It was on CNN headline news around 6:00 or so. I am sure CNN people do lurk here but I am not one of them if that is what you are implying. I really was surprised to hear someone on CNN ask a question like that since most of us here on FR just assume the liberal media is in "collusion" with the terrorists, communists, etc.


23 posted on 09/07/2004 6:43:40 PM PDT by RepublicanHippy
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To: chiller

The New York Times is still too busy covering the Abu Ghraib story...I guess 50+ front page stories wasn't enough. Savage just ran through a number of headlines from around the country (and world)...and some outlets actually refered to them as "activists"...with none of the ever mentioning the word, terrorists.


24 posted on 09/07/2004 6:43:58 PM PDT by cwb (John Kerry: Still attacking Vietnam Vets after 35 years.)
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To: RepublicanHippy

ratings. And their guy Kerry isn't doing so good..


25 posted on 09/07/2004 6:45:39 PM PDT by Alia
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To: RepublicanHippy
but I am not one of them if that is what you are implying

No, I wasn't at all!

26 posted on 09/07/2004 6:51:49 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: chiller
How do you get the guts to even read the New York Slimes? I haven't for years and I'm a happier man for it!

I guess the liberals are tired of blubbering "why do they hate us?". Now they are blubbering "why do they hate the Russians?".

27 posted on 09/07/2004 6:53:00 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: RepublicanHippy
And just what is the deal with you and Rush, Daryn? (sorry, I couldn't resist...)
28 posted on 09/07/2004 6:54:32 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: chiller

Concerning the "boo" story, look here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1207644/posts?page=1


29 posted on 09/07/2004 6:57:37 PM PDT by Rocky (Heinz Kerry: 57 positions on any issue)
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To: Ukiapah Heep
guess the liberals are tired of blubbering "why do they hate us?". Now they are blubbering "why do they hate the Russians?".

With all of their analyzing, I'm surprised they don't have their anchors give the news from a psychiatrists couch.

30 posted on 09/07/2004 6:57:46 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: chiller
Sorry...I love brevity but sometimes..
"Boo" coverage concerns the the widely circulated, then retracted, report by Tim Hayes of the Associated Press last Friday. W was campaigning and mentioned he sent his best wishes to former president Clinton after news of Clinton's heart operation broke. Reporter Hays wrote 'the crowd booed (reference toward Clinton) and Bush did nothing to stop it,' (paraphrasing).
The boos from the crowd and Bush's "refusal" to condemn them never happened. They were the whole cloth invention of an obvious media Bush-hater looking for a spin (or driven by the fiction) of W's lack of Swiftvets condemnation.
It was as bald a lie as I've observed in the campaign but not unexpected, given Kerry's current status.
31 posted on 09/07/2004 7:09:12 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: chiller

NYT is sold nationwide at Starbucks. I would like to boycott Starbucks unless / until they drop the NYT.


32 posted on 09/07/2004 7:12:25 PM PDT by Tax Government (Before there is faith, there must be hope.)
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To: chiller

It is, indeed, an outrage. Nothing more than typical of this bullsh*t so-called newspaper.


33 posted on 09/07/2004 7:14:39 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: dufekin
You are correct, Arabic speaking Christians say "Allah" for God (for instance Quddouson Allah is the first line of the Trisagion Hymn (Holy God. . . in English, Hagios ho Theos. . .in Greek) and is a more faithful translation of the Greek original (ho Theos = the God, while Allah is an elision of al Illah = the God) than the English.

The issue of whether the NYT translation is appropriate turns on whether the cowardly thug was pleading entirely in Arabic, in which case a full translation is appropriate, or was using the Arabic "the God" in what was otherwise spoken in Russian or Chechen. Only the Muslims (or those following their custom in reporting Muslim speech or writing) treat Allah as a proper name and leave it untranslated when passing into other languages. An Arabic speaking Christian will sing "Holy God. . ." when singing the Trisagion in English, never "Holy Allah. . .". A Muslim speaking English will speak of Allah in refering to his deity, regarding the Arabic name as part of the Koranic 'revelation'.

If he was pleading in Russian or Chechen, translating Allah from the Arabic along with the translation from Russian or Chechen is dishonest. If he was speaking entirely in Arabic, I have no problem with the translation.

34 posted on 09/07/2004 7:15:29 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was)
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To: Tax Government
NYT is sold nationwide at Starbucks. I would like to boycott Starbucks unless / until they drop the NYT.

Suggest they get the WSJ for balance? It *is* one of only two national newspapers: the other being USA Today. I think the WSJ is trying to be nationwide too.

35 posted on 09/07/2004 7:23:41 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: The_Reader_David
I think the terrorist was quoted as shouting "Allah Akbar" or "Allah is Great". He didn't say "God is great", because the god he refers to does not exist. It was invented in the Arab desert in the 7th century and has been spread by violence and has much reference to God as "great spirit" does from an MGM western.
36 posted on 09/07/2004 7:32:34 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Jack Black

WSJ editions are published in Europe and Asia.


37 posted on 09/07/2004 7:36:22 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: chiller
"Imagine you're a person who only gets his or her news from the New York Times."

Okay. I'm imagining... I only get my news from the New York Times... Yesssss...I'm a moron...a dysinformed moron...

38 posted on 09/07/2004 7:49:36 PM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President Bush.)
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To: chiller
"This is more than political correctness. This is the deliberate alteration of...news" This is propaganda. This is the New York Times. This is nothing new.
39 posted on 09/07/2004 7:52:32 PM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President Bush.)
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To: chiller

The New York Times has become one, with the enemy.....
They have become the enemy....

Semper Fi


40 posted on 09/07/2004 7:52:46 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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