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The 'compassion' racket (FreeRepublic pulls article by noted conservative Thomas Sowell)
Townhall.Com ^ | 8 September, 2004 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 09/08/2004 8:05:04 AM PDT by Servant of the 9

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To: jigsaw
As Kerryesque Mod, I voted to pull, but against funding the pull.

How dare you question my patriotism!

;-)

41 posted on 09/08/2004 8:35:22 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Everyone loves Sowell around here.

Sowell is a libertarian. Large numbers of freepers hate libertartians. Many here hate Sowell, except when he says what they want to hear.

42 posted on 09/08/2004 8:37:03 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Protagoras

No way. That's not true at all. Sowell is a conservative libertarian. I guess you call it a small "l" libertarian. He is not the same senseless, aimless, mindless, free-for-all, anarchist libertarian that we see around here. If you read him regularly you know that. And all FReepers everywhere like Sowell. I've never seen him bashed here. Some of us might disagree from time to time (rarely), but that's it. NO ONE HATES SOWELL!


43 posted on 09/08/2004 8:45:31 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Blzbba

I don't understand why victims of the '93 Flood weren't allowed to rebuild in known flood plains but hurricane victims are allowed to rebuild in known areas of hurricane activity.


Why the weather double standard?





cause waterfront homes are so romantic....everyone dreams of having one!


44 posted on 09/08/2004 8:47:08 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (The Democrats must be defeated in 2004)
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To: Mamzelle
Private insurance is a form of cost-shifting not too dissimilar from taxation. Of coursem, you can choose to go without insurance for some things, but many times we are much constrained against doing without (licensing of cars, home mtgs--requires insurance).

Private Insurance is voluntary, as are mortgages and cars.

So9

45 posted on 09/08/2004 8:50:56 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: Mamzelle
we still have to deal with realities

Sowell's point is that the "realities" would change if we would phase out the current policy of throwing taxpayer money to bail out poor judgment.

Note that he says, "phase out." That means we would not abandon people in dire straits today.

But it does mean we would say: This is the LAST time you can expect the government to throw money at you for your own poor decisions.

46 posted on 09/08/2004 8:52:45 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: Darksheare

Good to see you take time out of your busy schedule to personally attack the poster instead of discussing the issue at hand. Of course since you can't defend the fact that Republican compassionate conservatism looks very much like Democratic big government I wouldn't expect any less from you. Have a good day


47 posted on 09/08/2004 9:01:15 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
I guess you call it a small "l" libertarian.

Ummmm, that's how I typed it.

He is not the same senseless, aimless, mindless, free-for-all, anarchist libertarian that we see around here.

Name them.

If you read him regularly you know that.

I know him.

I've never seen him bashed here.

I guess you don't get out much.

NO ONE HATES SOWELL!

Speaking for oneself is usually a good thing.

48 posted on 09/08/2004 9:01:57 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: billbears

Hey, I'm not the one who back in May said the "I'm taking my dollies and going home" part.
Besides, you're doing your typical, "I'm a conservative, you are not" bit with your post.


49 posted on 09/08/2004 9:02:58 AM PDT by Darksheare (Conquerors of the nice T-shirt!)
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To: Servant of the 9

Aren't there lots of houses in Florida that have survived numerous hurricanes?

I think the problem is poor construction quality and home buyers who don't think through what they're buying.

There are homes on Key West that are over 100 years old, and still standing despite all the hurricanes.

i'll bet that given a decent budget, I could create a Florida waterfront home that would withstand anything nature cares to throw at it.

D


50 posted on 09/08/2004 9:03:01 AM PDT by daviddennis (;)
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To: Straight Vermonter
"I have no objection to government help for the unexpected, hurricaines in California or earthquakes in Florida fall into that category."

Another big government FReeper. Can you show me the article in the Constitution that empowers the government to do such a thing?

I don't think you read his sentence and absorbed it in full. :-) "Hurricanes in California, earthquakes in Florida." Get it now? :-)

51 posted on 09/08/2004 9:08:41 AM PDT by El Gran Salseron (It translates as the Great, Big Salsa Dancer, nothing more. :-))
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To: Protagoras
Gee you are touchy today.

Okay, one senseless, aimless, free-for-all, anarchist libertarian is tpaine. There are a bunch of others, but I hate to name names. I think tpaine will wear the badge proudly. No one is running him out, but he is no Thomas Sowell.

Alright, I misspoke when I said "no one hates Sowell." Liberals hate the guy. I have hung out in FR for quite some time and I have never seen a lack of respect for Sowell around here. Why are you so mad? The moderator already said the post was pulled because it was a duplicate. I think every column Sowell has written since FR was founded has probably been posted here. No one is going around deleting Sowell columns. That's a crazy, paranoid charge.

52 posted on 09/08/2004 9:10:51 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Protagoras

Also....Sowell is a Bush supporter. There is no possible way he will not support Bush. He does not approve of everything Bush does, but he is a big believer in voting for the best VIABLE candidate. He is not a 3rd party guy. He has supported a wide range of candidates from Gov' Arnold to Senate candidate Keyes. His comments would not be deleted around here for political incorrectness.


53 posted on 09/08/2004 9:14:05 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Servant of the 9

Bump for later reading.


54 posted on 09/08/2004 9:14:58 AM PDT by jamaly
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Gee you are touchy today.

No more than usual. I'm a curmudgeon. That's what I do. I do what I'm good at. Don't you know me yet? LOL

I think tpaine will wear the badge proudly. No one is running him out, but he is no Thomas Sowell.

On that we agree. But I don't think he is as crazy as you describe.

Why are you so mad? The moderator already said the post was pulled because it was a duplicate.

I'm not mad and I have never addressed why the thread was pulled.

No one is going around deleting Sowell columns. That's a crazy, paranoid charge.

I'm glad I didn't make it.

55 posted on 09/08/2004 9:30:59 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Bon mots
If these houses were built of mortar concrete and brick with ceramic or metal roofing, all one would need to do is close up the shudders and the house would still be standing when it all blew by. Of course the odd tree may fall on one or some such, but wind would not blow off the roof and destroy it if it were built right.

Along the gulf coast (Texas to Alabama, or just about) the soil is “gumbo.” It has a lot of clay in it. It is like concrete when it is dry, but turns into something resembling chocolate pudding when it gets wet. It expands a lot when it gets wet and shrinks/cracks/contracts a lot when it dries. Building on a slab isn’t the best idea (though they still do it). Most older homes are built up 18” – 3’ on piers. You can’t really build a brick/stone home like that.

At the very least you’d have to pour a footing for the brick/stone to rest on and you’re going to have nothing but problems with it settling.

Also, the entire Gulf coast area doesn’t have a single rock anywhere, so any stone you use is going to have to be imported from somewhere.

In northwestern Florida they used to build cinderblock houses, but the soil was more sandy there and they didn't have so many problems with the ground settling.

56 posted on 09/08/2004 9:35:00 AM PDT by Who dat?
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Also....Sowell is a Bush supporter.

Please reference that.

He does not approve of everything Bush does,

That is an understatement.

but he is a big believer in voting for the best VIABLE candidate.

Again, please reference that.

He is not a 3rd party guy.

Never said he was, but I have seen him avoid the question many times on his politics, so I'm curious where you get the info.

57 posted on 09/08/2004 9:35:20 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Servant of the 9

Disaster releif should be a state, not federal, function. Everyone knows; floods along rivers, hurricanes in Florida & Gulf states, tornadoes in midwest, snow & cold in upper midwest, earthquakes & fires in California. Those that take the risk of natural disaster should bear the costs.


58 posted on 09/08/2004 9:44:38 AM PDT by familyofman (people think I'm insane because I am frowning all the time)
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To: Protagoras

I get my info from his columns. He wrote many supportive Bush columns during the 2000 campaign. He hasn't said "vote for Bush" this time around, but everything he says points to his support of the Republican candidate. Read his columns regarding the conventions. He openly supported Arnorld and now supports Keyes. These two guys are not the same. His reason for supporting Arnold had to do with viability. Arnold could win and he was better than Davis. You can read his reason for supporting Keyes at Townhall.com. It was a recent column -- in fact, two of them.


59 posted on 09/08/2004 9:44:39 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Mamzelle
.in short, there're a lot more people in Fla than there used to be. Shall we move them all out?

No, what "we" should do is stop subsidizing stupidity. They can move themselves out once the gravy train no longer stops in their town.

Of course, the downside is that other parts of the country would then be inflicted with old, crotchety, leftist New Yorkers with atrocious, ear-splitting accents. Who can't drive.

60 posted on 09/08/2004 9:52:42 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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