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School Eliminates Holiday Parties
WNBC Television ^ | 09/09/04 | Puppage

Posted on 09/09/2004 5:09:50 AM PDT by Puppage

GROVEPORT, Ohio -- Dressing up in Halloween costumes in grade school and having punch and cookies used to be one of the most anticipated days of the school year. Now, students at one elementary school in Ohio won't have those memories, WCMH-TV reported.

Administrators sent a letter home with students Thursday alerting parents that there will no longer be Halloween, Christmas or Valentine's Day parties.

"Since they are canceling these activities, it's kind of like they are taking tradition out of school," said Chris Ayers, a parent.

Principal William Sternberg said about 15 percent of the student population doesn't participate in the parties because of personal beliefs. He said the teachers think the classroom gatherings take away valuable instructional time.

"Our teachers came together to make sure our test scores come up this year, and this is what they came up with," Sternberg said.

He stressed there will be some celebrations during the academic year, but the parties will be based on academics instead of holidays, Flannigan reported.

"Second grade does ancient Greece. We might do a party with ancient Greece," he said. "Those parties further enhance the lessons learned during those sections."

Leaders originally suggested eliminating individual birthday parties. Now there will be one big birthday bash.

Despite the birthday celebrations, some parents fear their children will miss something as a result of the new policy.

"He needs to look at the fact that he's leaving out a very important American concept from the children's lives and their history," Ayers said.

Administrators said they're still revising the new policy and changes could be made.

Some parents plan to circulate a petition to bring the holiday parties back.


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15 percent of the student population doesn't participate in the parties because of personal beliefs

So, that's 85% that DO.

Once again the MINORITY dictating to the MAJORITY.

1 posted on 09/09/2004 5:09:50 AM PDT by Puppage
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To: Puppage

Those holidays are very important in American culture. Thank goodness I went to catholic school while nuns were still teaching.


2 posted on 09/09/2004 5:11:51 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Puppage
"Our teachers came together to make sure our test scores come up this year, and this is what they came up with," Sternberg said.

Wow, some solution to test score problems. These teachers are so smart, or are they? Maybe the score problem is becoming more apparent here.

3 posted on 09/09/2004 5:12:17 AM PDT by SpeakingUp (Kerry lied, The NYT lied, and 1,800,000 Cambodians DIED)
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To: Puppage
He stressed there will be some celebrations during the academic year. . .

Kwanzaa?

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

4 posted on 09/09/2004 5:13:52 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Yes, there's still time to buy my book.)
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To: Puppage
Maybe they could have a democracy part instead. One where 1% or more opinion rules. They could explain why 99% in favor means nothing and then, when the students become confused and tune out, put them on Ritalin.

Close the public schools, get a better life started.

5 posted on 09/09/2004 5:15:22 AM PDT by SpeakingUp (Kerry lied, The NYT lied, and 1,800,000 Cambodians DIED)
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To: Mike Bates
Kwanzaa?

But of course....with a little Rhamadan thrown in for flavor.

6 posted on 09/09/2004 5:16:21 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage
Once again the MINORITY dictating to the MAJORITY.

Ditto. Those 85% parents failed to realize they run the school, not the teachers. Parents vote in so can vote out school board members who hire those same teachers and principal.

7 posted on 09/09/2004 5:17:54 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Puppage
What a bunch of losers...what will they try to take away next? Lunch? You know, lunch does cut into some very valuable instruction time...
8 posted on 09/09/2004 5:17:55 AM PDT by codyjacksmom (A hugh series Stuned beeber user since 08/04.)
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To: Puppage

You think the War in Faluija is hot...the culture war in this country is continuing to escalate. Go to the lamest government building you can find...that's what they want to make of your social life, your thoughts, your opinions. When our childrens kids can't even remember what American life was like they wont bother defending it. Scares the heck out of me.


9 posted on 09/09/2004 5:18:12 AM PDT by math=power
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To: Puppage

Groveport (Columbus suburb) has been a very depressed school district. For years, residents have denied the school district new funding. Their teachers are the lowest paid in Central Ohio.


10 posted on 09/09/2004 5:18:59 AM PDT by Toespi
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Welcome to communism! Vote for Kerry..


11 posted on 09/09/2004 5:20:30 AM PDT by b2stealth
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To: SpeakingUp
Our teachers came together to make sure our test scores come up this year, and this is what they came up with," Sternberg said.

When the teaching is only for the goal of raising a test score, the teaching never gets to the practical level of application. No wonder our kids can no longer think through a problem logically, nor comprehend anything they read beyond "See Spot run".
The 5th grader of the 60's could out perform most of the 11th graders today on factual examinations. I really think they could!
12 posted on 09/09/2004 5:22:12 AM PDT by Knute
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To: Puppage

He said the teachers think the classroom gatherings take away valuable instructional time.


 

Absolutely. Time is valuable when instructing grade-schoolers how to use condoms and embrace homosexuality.

 

13 posted on 09/09/2004 5:22:22 AM PDT by Fintan (Oh...am I supposed to read the article???)
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To: Puppage

The stated reason is the need to raise test scores. Must be the test scores that came out of the No Child Left Behind Act.

It's Bush's Fault!!!!


14 posted on 09/09/2004 5:22:29 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
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To: Puppage

Teachers are not allowed to call a school party a party here anymore. They're now a "celebration".


15 posted on 09/09/2004 5:23:46 AM PDT by Rebelbase (John Kerry, sign form 180 .)
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To: Rebelbase

What's the difference?


16 posted on 09/09/2004 5:25:44 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Mike Bates
We had none of these parties when I was in school. We were too busy doing reading, writing and arithmetic.

School plays were the outlet for holidays. You could participate or be part of the audience. School was for learning the basics.

Birthdays were family and friends AT HOME, not a school event. The schools are filled with JUNK time killers. Get back to basics.

17 posted on 09/09/2004 5:26:35 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: All
FReep the poll.
Do you think schools should ban holiday parties?
Choice Votes Percentage of 9731 Votes
Yes. Holiday parties should not be part of the school day. 1069 11%
No. Holiday parties are fun, a tradition for students to enjoy. 8662 89%
Thanks for taking part in our survey!

18 posted on 09/09/2004 5:27:42 AM PDT by ohioconservative
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To: Sacajaweau
The schools are filled with JUNK time killers. Get back to basics.

I don't think the NEA/AFT would like that very much.

19 posted on 09/09/2004 5:28:48 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Yes, there's still time to buy my book.)
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To: Puppage

bump


20 posted on 09/09/2004 5:28:53 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: ohioconservative

Doesn't look like it needs freeping *lol*


21 posted on 09/09/2004 5:29:24 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg
We might do a party with ancient Greece

TO-ga! TO-ga! TO-ga! :^)

22 posted on 09/09/2004 5:30:15 AM PDT by TheBigB ("As God is my witness...I thought turkeys could fly.")
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To: TheBigB

LOL good back to kollage idea ;-)


23 posted on 09/09/2004 5:31:08 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Puppage
Conservative evangelicals oppose Halloween. Jews, Muslims, and atheists oppose Christmas and Easter. Some group or other (I don't know who) opposes Valentine's Day. Perhaps the flaw is in the very concept of state-run schools, where one group or another gets to impose its will on the others, or, in the absence of any consensus, secular humanism fills the void. In the 19th Century, Catholic and Jewish children had the King James Bible and pro-Protestant history texts rammed down their throats at taxpayer-supported schools. Today, children from conservative homes get PC ideology and the "joys" of sexual license rammed down their throats at taxpayer-supported schools. Public education is essentially a socialist enterprise run at the local level.

The answer is not for conservatives to wrest control of public schools from liberals so they can ram their beliefs down the throats of liberals' children. Rather, private schools and homeschooling should be considered where feasible. The goal should be the separation of school and state.

24 posted on 09/09/2004 5:36:03 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: cyborg

Exactly. Why would the school district waste time and money to exclude the term "party" from school lexicon?

Maybe it's an insurance issue?


25 posted on 09/09/2004 5:38:16 AM PDT by Rebelbase (John Kerry, sign form 180 .)
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To: Wallace T.
conservatives to wrest control of public schools from liberals so they can ram their beliefs down the throats of liberals

Well, I hardly think birthday & Halloween parties can be seen as "ramming conservative beliefs down the throats of liberals".

It's a birthday party for Gods sake. When did birthdays become a conservative cause?

Let children be children. Their innocence will be taken soon enough without the help of political ideologies...of EITHER side.

26 posted on 09/09/2004 5:40:14 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage
Once again the MINORITY dictating to the MAJORITY.

On the other hand, doesn't the government run enough of our lives? Do they really need to run our kids parties, too?

27 posted on 09/09/2004 5:40:47 AM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: Sacajaweau

They eliminated all the parties here -- I think it was Jehovah Witnesses who wanted Christmas parties gone and I'm not sure who wanted Halloween ended. There seems to be fewer movies being shown too -- which is fine with me.


28 posted on 09/09/2004 5:41:00 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Rebelbase

It may be. I can't imagine any other reason.


29 posted on 09/09/2004 5:44:39 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Puppage

Maybe the 85% that would have celebrated should stay home on the day they normally would have had their festivities.


30 posted on 09/09/2004 5:44:54 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Puppage

Gotta make sure we don't hurt the self-esteem of that 15%, yes sir.....


31 posted on 09/09/2004 5:48:15 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'm a happy Republican goon)
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To: Puppage

Have the 15% minority go to the cafeteria and do whatever *their beliefs* dictate. Let the 85% majority have their parties and celebrations.

I'm so glad I went to grade school, high school and college in the 50s and 60s, but I'm also sad that kids today are being deprived of some of life's real pleasures.

Damned PC crap! Wake-up America, and get rid of this liberal garbage!!

I need a Chill Pill...


32 posted on 09/09/2004 5:48:30 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Puppage

Probably not popular here, but I agree with this. Too many parties at school.. Individual birthday parties!?!?!? When do they have time to study?

Parents and families can still have their own birthday and holiday parties. Nothing is stopping them. Schools need to get back to teaching the kids, not being day care.


33 posted on 09/09/2004 5:49:25 AM PDT by tje
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To: FITZ
My mom was a teacher and she too got complaints about Halloween parties from the Jehovah Witness parents - and some other religious group. The parents stayed to make sure she didn't read any stories about witches. I think you are right about Christmas programs too - that was also a problem.
34 posted on 09/09/2004 5:49:44 AM PDT by Leeann
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To: tje
Too many parties at school

Ok...well what about Halloween, or Thanksgiving?

35 posted on 09/09/2004 5:51:09 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

I agree with this.
I wouldn't Ramadan or that African Christman Celebration pushed on my kids, and those practioners could rightfully demand equal time.

As a Christian myself, I don't recognize Easter with the bunny, or Halloween with the ghouls.


36 posted on 09/09/2004 5:52:03 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Zealous Troll Hunter - and you know who you are - you've been warned.)
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To: Puppage

Are the administrators or the parents paying the bills?


37 posted on 09/09/2004 5:52:21 AM PDT by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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To: Toespi
Groveport (Columbus suburb) has been a very depressed school district. For years, residents have denied the school district new funding. Their teachers are the lowest paid in Central Ohio.

Yeah, but I'll bet they have a lighted football stadium. It's Ohio, afterall, and we all know that public schools are farm teams for the Buckeyes.

38 posted on 09/09/2004 5:57:00 AM PDT by FreedomAvatar
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To: Puppage
Birtrhday parties are going a little too far, and were probably included out of an abundance of caution. However, there is a significant point here. Substantial minorities oppose the celebration of certain holidays, notably Halloween, Christmas, and Easter, for religious reasons. And Halloween is not a holiday many conservative evangelical Christians are comfortable with. Many Baptist, charismatic, independent Bible, and conservative Reformed and Lutheran churches offer Halloween alternatives for children at their churches that are devoid of witches, goblins, etc. Many Christians, including conservatives in Catholic and mainline Protestant ranks, are unhappy with the generic and PC "Holiday" theme that has replaced the Christmas theme in both public schools and retail stores.

If, for example, the children of observant Jewish families went to schools associated with their faith, they could recognize their holidays: Yom Kippur, Passover, etc., without having the potential conflict of celebrating holidays like Christmas that may conflict with the faith of their families. It is time that "one size fits all" doesn't work, and perhaps never did work.

39 posted on 09/09/2004 5:57:37 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Puppage

Is it possible other groups were demanding equal time for their celebrations? Rather than add those holiday celebrations, maybe the school opted to do away with all of them. If that's the case, I don't blame them.


40 posted on 09/09/2004 6:01:07 AM PDT by carmody
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To: codyjacksmom

Well, they've already taken away recess in many schools. I guess the kids could do without lunch. They're too fat anyway. Yeah, that's the excuse the school adminstration could use.

I would hate to be a kid today.


41 posted on 09/09/2004 6:01:24 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: Puppage
what about Halloween, or Thanksgiving?

I don't think the schools should have parties for these occasions. They can recognize them and discuss why they exist in teaching situations, but I think partying is not what school is for.

Schools need to get back to their core function. That is teaching and learning. I am so glad to not have children in school anymore. And I wish I could have afforded private school when I did.

42 posted on 09/09/2004 6:02:01 AM PDT by tje
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To: Puppage

Do away with them all but Mayday.


43 posted on 09/09/2004 6:02:15 AM PDT by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: Wallace T.
Substantial minorities oppose the celebration of certain holidays, notably Halloween, Christmas, and Easter, for religious reasons.

Per the article...that "substantial" amounts to 15%. That leaves 85% who do NOT oppose. Explain to me why the minority overrules the majority?

You have the right to pursue happiness...you do NOT have the right, NOT to be offended.

44 posted on 09/09/2004 6:02:28 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Toespi

Time for a little payback, right?


45 posted on 09/09/2004 6:02:49 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: FreedomAvatar

I am not sure that Groveport has a lighted stadium. Groveport is not a farming community, as it is fringe Columbus and a low income community that does not appear to place too much importance on education.


46 posted on 09/09/2004 6:03:22 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Puppage

Can we just blow them all up please? No schools at all is preferable to the status quo.


47 posted on 09/09/2004 6:03:23 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Puppage

No Halloween?
Boy, there are going to be some pissed off Wiccans casting spells on that school principal! ;-)


48 posted on 09/09/2004 6:03:44 AM PDT by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: Knute

Raising those scores is the only thing that's important today. People's jobs depend on it.


49 posted on 09/09/2004 6:04:17 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: Puppage

"Our teachers came together to make sure our test scores come up this year, and this is what they came up with," Sternberg said...."

Attention students: The holiday parties will resume when morale improves! No "A", no play!


50 posted on 09/09/2004 6:06:19 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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