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Illiteracy shockingly high in L.A (53% can't read English)
Daily News ^ | 9/9/04 | Rachel Uranga

Posted on 09/09/2004 10:09:38 AM PDT by BurbankKarl

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To: MarkeyD

Have to keep padding the teacher union higher ups' coffers.


21 posted on 09/09/2004 10:22:41 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: BurbankKarl
53% can't read English

I'll bet they do a damn good job at Spanish, though.
22 posted on 09/09/2004 10:24:25 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (The theory of evolution is just that - a theory.)
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To: BurbankKarl

thats because they are all illegals...


23 posted on 09/09/2004 10:25:04 AM PDT by freddiedavis
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To: BurbankKarl

Hmmm, 53%. Now I wonder what group makes up the majority of that 53%. You just as well consider 53% of L.A.'s residents to be here without documents. I'm shocked...


24 posted on 09/09/2004 10:26:06 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: StoneColdGOP
hahaha, I like posting that in threads that showcase Bushs' FAILED policies, I am with him on a number of issues but illegal immigration is not one of them. I consider illegal immigration a far greater threat to the nation then the WOT.
25 posted on 09/09/2004 10:26:56 AM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: BurbankKarl

Annexation.


26 posted on 09/09/2004 10:28:00 AM PDT by Old Professer (The enemy is among us; he is us; we know it, we dare not say it - someone will be offended.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Doubtful; all the forms are in both.


27 posted on 09/09/2004 10:29:01 AM PDT by Old Professer (The enemy is among us; he is us; we know it, we dare not say it - someone will be offended.)
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To: Old Professer

Yeah, but who's annexing who?


28 posted on 09/09/2004 10:30:10 AM PDT by mommybain (Summer has been repealed...by the NC Board of Education)
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To: BurbankKarl

You know bud, it angers me thinking that those who drive 50% of the cars on the roads in some areas, upwards of one third of the kids in LA Unified, over 80% of those receiving services at LA County owned hospitals are illegal immigrants.

Where's our disaster relief? Yeah, I know. The check's in the mail.


29 posted on 09/09/2004 10:30:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: television is just wrong

Sample ballots


30 posted on 09/09/2004 10:30:16 AM PDT by Casloy (qs)
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To: BurbankKarl

This is because many of these people when they were in high school were intimidated by the American culture. Further, many of them had to drop out because they got pregnant, due to not knowing how to use contraceptives properly.

The answer to LA's illiteracy crisis is more time spent on multiculturalism in the classroom, and more school funding for training in the fine art of condom useage. Reading, Writing and English classes are just getting in the way of the really important things our schools need to accomplish.


31 posted on 09/09/2004 10:30:27 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: reagan_fanatic
I'll bet they do a damn good job at Spanish, though.

That was my first thought.

32 posted on 09/09/2004 10:31:10 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: BurbankKarl
"53% can't read English?"

Que?

33 posted on 09/09/2004 10:31:13 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: television is just wrong

I believe they can ask for "help" in the voting booth.


34 posted on 09/09/2004 10:31:32 AM PDT by MarkeyD (<a href="http:\\www.michaelmoore.com>Maggot</a>)
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To: jpsb
It's all Bush's fault."""

You're being sarcastic, but in fact Bush isn't doing much to halt illegal immigration - - and he's doing a lot to encourage it with his amnesty plan.

35 posted on 09/09/2004 10:32:07 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: BurbankKarl
Gonzales emigrated from Guatemala seven years ago and taught himself to speak English by watching television programs.

I thought the immigration forms were in English. Can someone correct me>?
36 posted on 09/09/2004 10:33:06 AM PDT by Xenalyte (It looks like it could gore.)
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To: television is just wrong

Unless California licenses plates unlike any other state, odds are you have only seen ONE "La Raza" plate.


37 posted on 09/09/2004 10:33:48 AM PDT by Xenalyte (It looks like it could gore.)
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To: MarkeyD

The really harmful part is the facile way in which Dems call anyone who even notices the problem a racist for cheap poltiical gain and the purpose of increasing servitude on the liberal dependency plantation.


38 posted on 09/09/2004 10:35:43 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Xenalyte
I thought the immigration forms were in English.

They may well be, but the illegals have PLENTY of "immigrant advocacy" groups (read: Raza-Nazi communists) helping along the way, including getting their paperwork done.

39 posted on 09/09/2004 10:35:44 AM PDT by StoneColdGOP (Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault... Nothing is Bush's fault...)
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To: BurbankKarl

Reseda--I moved FROM Reseda, after living there 27 years because of this problem and the ones like it.

I could no longer do business at a restaurant, dry cleaners, gas station, hardware store, etc, because I spoke ENGLISH and these intruders did NOT. I got too frustrated with trying to communicate a simple order for a samdwich and a coca cola with no ice. It ALWAYS came with ice, and there were totally "deer in the headlights" looks
when I asked for it the way I ordered it. Had to speak to "manager" more than once. They often weren't much better. Sure took the enjoyment out of going out to eat. Notice that the article doesn't clarify if the worker at Carrows was illegal intruder or not.

True story: McDonalds on Parthenia near Tampa, just north of Reseda in Northridge: Employee didn't speak English. COULD NOT take an order from a customer in English. A second employee stood there, on the crowded back counter at lunch time, translating order from customer to "order taker" who then struggled to put info into computer and then find the items, all of which had wrappers printed in English. One of my best friends had a total hissy fit about this-MIDDLE OF THE LUNCH PERIOD- and flat raised a ruckus. Manager told him there was nothing he could do about it. My friend said if he came in again and witnessed the same thing, the shop lunches he bought there every day to the tune of $75-100, 6 days a week would be purchased elsewhere. He went elsewhere after that. I don't think there is a single McDonalds in the country that can walk away from prox $2000 a month from one source of customers, a nearby machine shop.

A by-product of these "employees" is the fact that their non-working "friends" start hanging around the place of business, hanging in the parking lots, loitering, just waiting to chat with their working friends during breaks, lunches, etc. This becomes a completely separate problem, but it is very off-putting for customers. Made me quit going more to than one place. Even when I expressed my discomfort to managers, they were too scared or too stupid to address the problem. It didn't take long for fairly busy places to be scratching for customers.

I think the efforts to teach "bi-lingual" classes for years in LA is also part of the problem here. Millions of dollars of money were wasted. The longer you coddle these people, the longer they take to learn the English language. I think they also develop the idea that we should learn their languages. I will--when and ONLY WHEN I go to their country, not one second earlier.

The fact that someone is now complaining that there is such a high rate of illiteracy in Southern Calif is no news to me. I have alot more stories about how frustrating it became to live there. They cannot make change. They cannot give directions. They cannot count items to ring them up. They are a disaster to the employer, especially the small businessman.

Add all the other costs of doing business in Calif, and there is no secret why businesses are closing and starting up out of the state. Cannot fire or lay these people off without penalties, so you move to a new place, out of state, and wipe the slate clean and start over.

This is a cancer that needs to be addressed. Most are here illegally. Ship them out, and keep them out.





40 posted on 09/09/2004 10:38:06 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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