Posted on 09/09/2004 7:47:57 PM PDT by 11th_VA
Documents unearthed by CBS News that raise doubts about whether President Bush fulfilled his obligations to the Texas Air National Guard include several features suggesting that they were generated by a computer or word processor rather than a Vietnam War-era typewriter, experts said yesterday.
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(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Some... but not the ace reporters at the Washington Post.
Legs that go all the way up and make an a... well, nevermind.
Run Forrest, Run!
LOL !!!
"I don't think there were any documents. He was not a paper person," she said, adding that she was "livid" at CBS. A CBS reporter contacted her briefly before Wednesday night's broadcasts, she said, but did not ask her to authenticate the records.
Wow! And this is on the front page of the Washington Post! Great news.
Just another little addition to what has already been posted on many other threads. ..
I printed out all 4 memos. The dots peppered all over the documents look to uniform to me. I printed them out and on two of the documents, there are tracks that look chillingly like the tracks that my Epson 3000 makes. The tracks also line up on the two copies if you hold them to the light.
Just my 2 little pennies.
Ever since Al Gore invented the internet, it's been harder for frauds to dupe the public. Much of Kerry's lies have been exposed on the internet and not by the OLD media. This may be the biggest reason for his fall - besides his character - and the biggest story for future historians when they want to understand why Kerry lost.
Question to CBS: Would you rather truth or RATHERLIES?
Any of you holding your breath waiting for Senator Harkin to apologize for his obscene remarks. He said something to the affect that with "Mr. Bush it is not about Vietnam, but integrity, honesty" Mr. Harkin where is your integrity?
In other news, schools are closed in hell due to a sudden blizzard.
The Administration laid out ons of evidence that Saddam had nukes and other WMD. When the Nigerian forgeries were discovered (even though they were not part of the evidence presented) the left derided any claims that Iraq was seeking uranium by saying, "No he wasn't! Those documents were forgeries! He never sought Uranium!"
Now even though Bush served honorably whenever a Bush hater mentions the AWOL claim I'll just reply, "Bush served honorably! The documents were forgeries! It's been debunked and Michael Moore is lying."
And the remainder of the News Dept. at the Post get their "news" from The Onion.
Add another "K" person to the pile.
Thanks Jim for FreeRepublic and its informative value - and for the sheer fun of this breaking story in particular. (One could only hope that it breaks Dan Rather in the process).
I wonder where the legs will lead to. Where is the source of these forgeries coming from.
EXCELLENT, INDEED! IIRC, the Boston Globe is an NYT company. CBS is in bed with the NYT. The Post, along with its business partner, ABC News, has decided to to what it can to undermine the NYT's market share. This works for ABC, which needs to bury CBS' ratings.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
One wonders if Clinton's people supplied the memos so that Kerry and the mediots would bite (then to be discredited and accused of "dirty tricks").
I do hope there's a full investigation. Wouldn't it be delicious to have CBS find out that the Hildabeast had a hand in this?
CBS officials insisted that the network had done due diligence in checking out the authenticity of the documents with independent experts over six weeks. The senior CBS official said the network had talked to four typewriting and handwriting experts "who put our concerns to rest" and confirmed the authenticity of Killian's signature.
If that's the case, then why is not only the CBS official who said this being quoted off the record, but so are the four alleged experts who reviewed the documents? And when CBS first ran this story, they said it was reviewed by one handwriting expert!
I just feel really defeated today. The media is just so full of it. They are dismissing the new AWOL stuff, 1,000 times faster than they even began to think about debunking the swift boat liars. They are playing up Bush's poll numbers. And as much as I know that polls are bunk, I just can't help but be depressed over the Ohio and Missouri numbers.
I will not gloat ...
If push came to shove do you think Rather would protect his sources? I don't.
The second line has 111th with the superscript th, and was dated 1968. All the rest have 111th with no superscript. They were obviously written on different typewriters at different times, but it obviously was possible to get a superscript in 1968, as these are official docs.
Here's a link to the doc from the records Bush released. see page 3: http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/9-Miscellaneous.pdf
Back in the early 1980s, 60 MINUTES did a story on a town named Polo in Illinois. The thesis was that the town was being cruel to some deadbeat and his family. Hundreds of people had tried to help the man and had offered to prove it to 60 MINUTES. They used no one and nothing that might have shown there was two sides to the story. 60 MINUTES has a long history of keeping facts that conflict out of its coverage.
Not necesarily -- I heard that ABC's Nightline is doing a story about this as well.
Will any consequences befall Rather and 60 Minutes for trying to fix a Presidential election through forged documents?
The titanic aka msm has ran into the iceberg known as the internet.
This election will forever be known as the one that brought down the "mainstream" liberal fascistic media. Thank gosh for the internet and talk radio...
Wash Post is doing a fair job in this election.
Ben Barnes connections ...
OK. I just read the whole article. Forget schools being closed in hell. Hell has become a glacier. This is a front page Washington Post piece that clearly indicates the memos are fraudulant.
>>> Not necesarily -- I heard that ABC's Nightline is doing a story about this as well.
For ABC, it's their chance to slime SeeBS - they have no interest in hurithg the Johns.
Give the Post some credit for running the story !!! Let's see which news organizations pick up on this and place it on the front page, much like the original story !!!
ABCNEWS.COM has an interview with Killian's widow. She said he didn't type!
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Politics/Vote2004/bush_documents_040909-1.html
Even if nothing more comes out of this, it has put the media on notice that they are being watched. We are not going to sit back and let them distort the truth so that they can promote their own agenda.
FYI ping...and thanks for pinging me to the other thread!
Wow. The article quotes Killian's wife saying the memos are "a farce". She says her husband was not a paper person and did not "keep files". She also says she was contacted by CBS but was not asked to verify the documents.
So where did these supposedly come from? I was thinking the wife, but obviously not.
What does THAT mean?
Now anonymous CBS officials are burning their anonymous sources in anonymous quotes to the Washington Post. Sweet.
I was! I can't believe they've put this on the front page. Good for them!
Actually Dobbs was the one all over the Swift Vets Cambodia story as I recall. And Allen is one of the Post's stars, too.
These stories are breaking so fast I can't keep up. Now
Killian's widow has discredited the documents!
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/Politics/Vote2004/bush_documents_040909-1.html
Go th link above to see signature and singature block comparions - real vs. CBS
And most damaging is the reference to Staubt being "concerned" about Bush in 1973 - But Staubt retired in 1972.
PS - ABC News just interviewed wife of person who "wrote" the memos - she says he didn't know how to type, and wouldn't have written the memos.
I thought they did a good job on the Kerry Bronze Star story.
I can't believe that "soon to be cancelled" 60 Minutes will not release their expert's name. Normal journalism would give the expert's name and then at least 30 seconds of TV time in the episode. This is just unbelievable and shocking to me.
A senior CBS official, who asked not to be named because CBS managers did not want to go beyond their official statement, named one of the network's sources as retired Maj. Gen. Bobby W. Hodges, the immediate superior of the documents' alleged author, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian. He said that a CBS reporter read the documents to Hodges over the phone, and that Hodges replied that "these are the things that Killian had expressed to me at the time."
This smells of a "trial balloon" by CBS's legal team.
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