Rush is reporting that the fake docs came from the DNC and Kerry campaign (live thread)

Rush live tread | SEPTEMBER 4, 2004 | rush

[stockpirate]

Rush is reporting that the docs came from the Kerry campaign and that the campaign knew that were fakes.

[2Fro]

Baghdad Dan soon will join Baghdad Bob in obscurity! Bob leaves the better legacy.

[Legion04]

Rather should resign immediately...and if he doesn't have the decency to do so, he should be FIRED at once!

[NRA1995]

Well.....let me be the first to recommend them for a Purple Ouchie

[Jagdgewehr]

the Kerry camp cannot be this stupid.

I think they're that desperate.

[CalRepublican]

Yeah, and don't think Rather doesn't know what McAwful is saying. Basically, CBS and the DNC have tried to press this fraud as a win-win for them. Either they're real and Bush must answer or their fake and Bush must answer why he made them.

Unbelievable. And Rather--who knows where he got the documents is letting them get away with it.

[blackdog]

Ickes, Palladino, Blumenthal(who by the way is experienced at fraud, even on the front steps of a grand jury with a camera rolling), McCurry, Carville, Brazille, Lenzner, et,al, create a stupid critical mass bomb when they all occupy the same room.

Hopefully they all end up in jail. Not that that bothers Ickes much. He just tells federal judges to go eff off. He's a legacy pledge ya know, back from the Roosevelt frat house........

[aft_lizard]

My Prediction on CNN is coming true, they are probably the most ticked off today because they ran with the story yesterday. Wolf is doing a bang up job on this.

[Soul Seeker]

Old Media getting slammed hard! Nailing them on why we can't trust them anymore.

Wow, those of you that pursued this story are part of history. Well done!

[WoodstockCat]

somewhere it was posted yesterday that they came from that new "Texans for half-truths" anti-Bush vet group but I don't think that has been run down yet.

[DaveMSmith]

Ya I heard Laura.. hehehe and we thought Hewitt was too hot last night LOL...

[Smartaleck]

It's impossible to get into TAS.....a friend did and sent this to me. From TAS: Anatomy of a Forgery By The Prowler Published 9/10/2004 12:09:06 AM More than six weeks ago, an opposition research staffer for the Democratic National Committee received documents purportedly written by President George W. Bush's Texas Air National Guard squadron commander, the late Col. Jerry Killian. The oppo researcher claimed the source was "a retired military officer." According to a DNC staffer, the documents were seen by both senior staff members at the DNC, as well as the Kerry campaign. "More than a couple people heard about the papers," says the DNC staffer. "I've heard that they ended up with the Kerry campaign, for them to decide to how to proceed, and presumably they were handed over to 60 Minutes, which used them the other night. But I know this much. When there was discussion here, there were doubts raised about their authenticity." The concerns arose from the sourcing. "It wasn't clear that our source for the documents would have had access to them. Our person couldn't confirm from what file, from what original source they came from." The documents that CBS News used were not documents from any of Bush's personnel files from his time in the National Guard. Rather, CBS News stated that they were documents uncovered in the personnel files of Killian. That would explain why the White House or the Pentagon had never before released or even seen them. According to a Kerry campaign source, there was little gossip about the supposedly hot documents inside the office of the campaign on McPherson Square. "Those documents were not something anyone was talking about or trying to generate buzz on," says the staffer. "It wasn't like there were small groups of people talking about this as a bombshell. I think people here weren't sure what to make of it, because provenance of these documents was uncertain." A CBS producer, who initially tipped off The Prowler about the 60 Minutes story, says that despite seeking professional assurances that the documents were legitimate, there was uncertainty even among the group of producers and researchers working on the story. "The problem was we had one set of documents from Bush's file that had Killian calling Bush 'an exceptionally fine young officer and pilot.' And someone who Killian said 'performed in an outstanding manner.' Then you have these new documents and the tone and content are so different." The CBS producer said that some alarms bells went off last week when the signatures and initials of Killian on the documents in hand did not match up with other documents available on the public record, but producers chose to move ahead with the story. "This was too hot not to push. If there were doubts, those people didn't show it," says the producer, who works on a rival CBS News program. Now, the producer says, there is growing concern inside the building on 57th Street that they may have been suckered by the Kerry campaign. "There is a school of thought here that the Kerry people dumped this in our laps, figuring we'd do the heavy lifting on the story. That maybe they had doubts about these documents but hoped we'd get more information," says the producer. "If that's the case, then we're bigger fools than we already appear to be judging by all the chatter about how these documents could be forgeries." ABC News' political unit held a conference call at 7:00 p.m. Thursday evening to discuss the memo and its potential ramifications should the documents turn out to be a forgery. That meeting took place around the time that the deceased Killian's son made public statements questioning the documents' authenticity. According to one ABC News employee, some reporters believe that the Kerry campaign as well as the DNC were parties in duping CBS, but a smaller segment believe that both the DNC and the Kerry campaign were duped by Karl Rove, who would have engineered the flap to embarrass the opposition.

[Reagan Man]

Rather has always hated the Bush family, but this is looking like a first class case of denial by cbs. Captain Dan continues his shilling for the Kerry campaign.

[SupplySider]

We may be moving to step two of the classic Clinton disinformation model:

1. Nothing happened.

2. Mistakes were made.

3.Time to move on.

From day one I thought those "documents" had the smell of Carville and Begala all over them. Kerry was desperate, he brought in the Clinton attack dogs, days later this surfaces.

[keat]

Great to have a little fun but let's not lose sight of who's sporting the biggest grin over Kerry's implosion - HRC, of course.

Not to early to start planning to bring her down - we've got four years, lets get to work.

[GOP]

Bush isn't reporting that the fake docs came from the DNC. It is Rush stating this. Bush is smart enough to let the DNC self-destruct by themselves.

[sarasota]

Freepers need to send this article to everyone.

[lainie]

Rush is doing a great deconstruction of this. Either CBS was duped by Karl Rove (to which the world will go HUH? --they shouldn't be that stupid), or, more likely, they were duped by their friends at the DNC. I vote the latter, given that CBS didn't bother vetting the story or any sources. They must have felt that it wasn't necessary.

10 posted on 09/10/2004 9:36:11 AM PDT by lainie

[Old Sarge]

KERRY and EDWARDS are TOAST!!!

"Paging Sen. Lautenberg!!"

NOT LAUTENBERG...

"My Hands Are Clean..."

[mewzilla]

I'm sure that the same folks who screwed CBS would be more than happy to do the same thing to ABC/NBC/CNN should the need and the opportunity arise...

[N. Theknow]

DaNC Rather was saying that Pres. Bush needed to answer the charges of the faked documents which he adamantly claims are genuine.